WFTSC - That Was Then And This Is Now

i like Jetstream too.

j e t jay ee t

not as good as Technique but better than Republic.

For me I can truly say this is my favorite CD I just love everything on it, I still listen to it almost everyday in my car or ipod.

My views on the cd have not changed much, exept Jetstream does sound a little cheesy now. My favorite songs then & still now are Turn, WFTSC, Joe?, Krafty. But what has changed is my worst songs. Before was Guilt & Draculas Castle. Now its Guilt & Jetstream. I learned to love Draculas Castle. I fell in love with the guitar in the chourus. The rest of the songs are just great songs. Yes even I told you so. So for me I stongly give this cd a 9/10.

I'm suprised how negative a lot of your posts are. I love the album though I agree it gets a little uninspired in the middle.

One of the best albums of the year. Though I'm at odds with most of your opinons of New Order. I'm SICK TO DEATH of their older stuff because I've heard it 50,000 friggin times, I love their more rock-oriented direction (Working Overtime and Rock the Shack are awesome!!) and care very little about the latest club music, it's become very dull. Bernard's lyrics aren't up there with Dylan or the Stones but he's a very good songwriter. I think he gets slagged more for his tone of voice while he's singing, he sounds like he's just making up shit off the top of his head, but it works. The best lyriics he's written are much better then the lyrics of most of todays top rock bands whose lyrics are so dull, safe and generic they don't even make an impression in your consciousness.

WFTSC, Turn and Guilt I liked right off the bat and WFTSC has grown to be my favorite track. Didn't like Hey Joe at first (title perhaps) but now I like it alot. All the others are ok and still remain to be so.

I actually played it last week for the first time in months and my opinion remains unchanged. Some really good tracks, some ok, and some downright shite ones. Overall not a fantastic achievement. It's gone back in the drawer for a while, I'm afraid.

monty wrote: The whole album's grown on me.Instantly liked Krafty,Guilt and I Told You So,but couldn't see what all the fuss was about Turn.I love it now.

Same here except for the fact that I loved Dracula's Castle and still do.

FtotheDoubleOff wrote: I love their more rock-oriented direction (Working Overtime and Rock the Shack are awesome!!) and care very little about the latest club music, it's become very dull.

Interesting... I really like their rockier stuff too but we seem to be massively in the minority!

Guilty Partner wrote:

FtotheDoubleOff wrote: I love their more rock-oriented direction (Working Overtime and Rock the Shack are awesome!!) and care very little about the latest club music, it's become very dull.

Interesting... I really like their rockier stuff too but we seem to be massively in the minority!

I still play the album on MP3 player a lot, so in that context its still a great album. In fact Ive now changed my mind. WFTSC is better than GR. Whos Joe? has grown on me bigtime. Its a great track with good beats, guitar and chorus. Turn is also pop perfection. The rest is a mixed bag. M,N&D and Draculas Castle and WFTSC are missing something, I dont know what, but they SHOULD have been great tracks.

I think the album is great but not brilliant. I dont know whats missing as theres some great ideas on there. Maybe its the kitchen sink style production. And as for Working Ovetime, what a complete pile of poo that is. Barney sounds like he's singing a different song to the music!!!

My opinion has'nt changed since it's release, it still gets played at least once a week, a great album apart from two tracks:- Jetstream and Working Overtime.

A good mix of styles and 'Turn' the best track they have done since 'Technique'

I liked it when I first heard it, and I like it more now. It is definitely a grower, but instantly likeable, not instantly loveable. However, I really can't do Jetstream, just can't, sorry! Always press 'skip'. Turn is one of NO's best songs, ever.

I still think it's a great album despite Ana Matronic. When I play the CD I usually skip Jetstream and Working Overtime.

I've learnt to love I Told You So... but Working Overtime is a fumble :(

My opinion hasn't really changed - still love the first 4 tracks (although I still prefer Krafty to WFTSC) and Turn. MNAD, Dracula's Castle are ok - think I liked them more when the album first came out, but they haven't stood up so well recently. I Told You So is bearable but nowt special, and I really don't see what all the fuss about GIAUE is for. Jetstream I can't figure out - sometimes I like it, sometimes I have to skip. Working Overtime is better than Rock The Shack and I don't mind them 'rawking' out but not a great closer for me... Turn would have rounded the album off nicely... That's everything isn't it? I mostly listen to WFTSC in the car and I do tend to play the first 4 tracks and then rewind, play again and then stick one of the older albums on - over all Republic, GR and WFTSC aren't 'listen-all-the-way-through' choices for me - still some great stuff on them , on a par with the best tracks from the 80s, but nowhere nerar as consistent as Low-Life, Technique or PC&L... even Brotherhood ususally gets a straight run-through...

Snorri xxx