New Order New York gig on Channel 4 08/04/06 — Forum Archive

6 Apr 2006, 06:00

If a kind soul has this recorded direct to dvd can send me a copy, they will be rewarded well.

6 Apr 2006, 07:17

Bleh, a few different songs from the 511 dvd, would be worth watching for Love Vigilantes and WFTSC and that's about it. :\ohwell:

6 Apr 2006, 09:28

Al Jarvis wrote:

[orange]depthcharge[/orange] wrote: Aussie crowds often get a name for being the most 'up for it' for tours. Think NO probably left it too long between drinks. Generations passed. Mind, are any crowds really that nuts for them anymore apart from UK?

Generations have passed since ... what though? New Order don't have a major fanbase as such in Australia, do they?

No they don't and never really did. We are a pretty small country after all.

My point was simply that NO toured Australia in 1987, then there was a fifteen year gap to 2002. The band's profile here changed significantly during that period. The crowd attending NO for the Substance tours was quite a different beast. Those days you had strong radio support, hit singles, a student following and a strong indie cred element, drawn together by a real underground status and critical acclaim NO enjoyed here. By 2002 you only had the diehards who'd never let go (ahem), a few nostalgia buffs and a smattering of new fans. In a small country especially, it's not really the recipe for a huge ruck of an event.

From my own experience, I can still recall all the NO fans who I traded vinyl with in high school, and the sad fact is that most of them gave up on NO in the early nineties. The long hiatus between albums and tours did them few favours. Exposure here today is minimal, they don't really fit the format of any radio network and we should just count our blessings if they do make the trek here again.

:\pimp3:

6 Apr 2006, 09:41

Marc wrote: Bleh, a few different songs from the 511 dvd, would be worth watching for Love Vigilantes and WFTSC and that's about it. :\ohwell:

Bernard getting down on his kneews playing guitar on Jetstream is something you don't wanna miss :lol:

Did he fell or was it on purpose, now that's the question, many think he fell ;)

6 Apr 2006, 10:12

err, not wanting to be a pedant but................isn't it broadcast on the 9TH ?

6 Apr 2006, 12:51

really looking forward to this :nod:

6 Apr 2006, 13:47

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: err, not wanting to be a pedant but................isn't it broadcast on the 9TH ?

There website says clearly Saturday April 8th....

6 Apr 2006, 14:10

Spotnick wrote:

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: err, not wanting to be a pedant but................isn't it broadcast on the 9TH ?

There website says clearly Saturday April 8th....

Midnight is where the day begins :ignore:

6 Apr 2006, 16:07

Definitely the 9th - early hours of Sunday morning.

01:55 Sun 9th Channel 4 4 Music: New Order: Live in Concert New Order performing live in New York, featuring all the classic hits such as Bizarre Love Triangle, Blue Monday and Temptation, as well as a special guest appearance by Scissor Sisters' Ana Matronic on Jetstream

Duration: 90mins

6 Apr 2006, 16:26

Spotnick wrote:

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: err, not wanting to be a pedant but................isn't it broadcast on the 9TH ?

There website says clearly Saturday April 8th....

But its broadcast on Sunday the 9TH ( Sky+ never lies)

6 Apr 2006, 23:01

how long was the actual gig in New York? is the 90 minute duration of the programme going to cover the whole gig?

you have to take away advert time from that of course.so it'll maybe be about ,what, 75 - 80 minutes of the gig?

7 Apr 2006, 01:02

Spotnick wrote:

Steve Campbell wrote: I hope they've not editted it...it must be the single funniest NO gig EVER.

that'll be going on DVDr. I'll rip and upload somewhere for you plebs if needed.

I can set some place for you to upload it to me asap ;)

Well DVDR willing, I'll have it ripped by sunday evening (I could use my fast computer but it has windows on it, so all it's videos tend to be ugly and broken..I'll wait the AGE it takes the linux box in order to get the quality (it can actually do 2 pass encoding without crashing!!!!!! read it and weep Dossers.)

Am I the only person who firmly believes this gig is an example of NO deliberately fucking warners over?

Suit: "we're sending a full camera crew to the show tonight for a dvd release, make it a good one" NO:" that's nice...we'll assassinate our songs, insult the fucking retarded New Yorkers, tell jokes about our dead singer and say all the STUPID record company crap you put on the tellyprompter ONLY if we say something featuring CUNT 3 secs after"

I mean really...one of them sings SLC in a monty python voice.

Fuck AOL_TIME_WARNER!!!!!!!!!!!

LONG LIVE NEW ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 Apr 2006, 01:03

Johnny "Two Sheds" Jackson wrote: how long was the actual gig in New York? is the 90 minute duration of the programme going to cover the whole gig?

you have to take away advert time from that of course.so it'll maybe be about ,what, 75 - 80 minutes of the gig?

By the time the cut out the Ian Curtis sketch, bernard's swearing and audience abuse, and the songs they sang in funny voices or otherwise refused to play for the camera...all that's left will be BM...and that's a tape LOL

7 Apr 2006, 02:10

Steve Campbell wrote:

Johnny "Two Sheds" Jackson wrote: how long was the actual gig in New York? is the 90 minute duration of the programme going to cover the whole gig?

you have to take away advert time from that of course.so it'll maybe be about ,what, 75 - 80 minutes of the gig?

By the time the cut out the Ian Curtis sketch, bernard's swearing and audience abuse, and the songs they sang in funny voices or otherwise refused to play for the camera...all that's left will be BM...and that's a tape LOL

i hope they don't edit it too much.

7 Apr 2006, 04:52

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote:

Spotnick wrote:

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: err, not wanting to be a pedant but................isn't it broadcast on the 9TH ?

There website says clearly Saturday April 8th....

But its broadcast on Sunday the 9TH ( Sky+ never lies)

It's on the Saturday page of the TV listings but is obviously Sunday 9 April 01.55am.

If you're not setting your timers with the Video+ code, make sure you manually enter the correct date - save disappointment when you come to watch it back and find you've recorded "Scoop! The Greatest Tabloid Headlines"...

Chris

7 Apr 2006, 10:31

Don't forget to record it! ;)

7 Apr 2006, 21:41

Al Jarvis wrote: No laughing matter being there. One of my most painful experiences watching New Order over the years...The most static audience I've ever witnessed for New Order.

My girlfriend and I were right under the boom camera sweep....and were not at all static! We were however dodging guys with man-purses. I don't know what what up with that. There may be footage of my girlfriend flipping out on some jerk ;)

I think they sounded incredible! I would sure like to see the concert again...any help in that department is appreciated!!!!

back to lurking... Joe

8 Apr 2006, 15:31

Jert wrote: Definitely the 9th - early hours of Sunday morning.

01:55 Sun 9th / Channel 4 / 4 Music: New Order: Live in Concert. New Order performing live in New York,/ Duration: 90mins

At some point ,pls. might just the audio be available.

8 Apr 2006, 16:50

We already have the audio, what we want is the VIDEO ;)

8 Apr 2006, 17:10

DVD set NOW.......just got in and found they are on later thanks to DIGGY MIKE! :clap:

8 Apr 2006, 17:37

Sky Digibox now plugged straight into Wavelab...recording level set, output checked, all sounding good...come on the Order!

8 Apr 2006, 18:14

I see what you mean about the lifeless audience - they're all just standing still, even during Crystal! :crazy:

8 Apr 2006, 22:48

Now come on... we want something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't wait any longer!!!!!

:lol:

8 Apr 2006, 23:41

DVD set NOW.......just got in and found they are on later thanks to DIGGY MIKE!

Any chance of a copy Dude?

9 Apr 2006, 00:36

From what I gather NO were fairly popular in the 80s - but Australia was in a different place musically then. We were very pub rock - see 'Centrefold', Crowded House, very ballady. Now its getting similar again.

Punk really has no strong basis here - we've got nought to rebel against, no misery filling the towns like in England in the 70s. We are too bright and bubbly for punk to really take off. All the punks I have seen are sort of laughed at ie. "what the hell is your problem, mate?". A punk standing in the middle of sunny Brisbane doesn't look right. :shrug:

9 Apr 2006, 01:17

Nick King wrote: I see what you mean about the lifeless audience - they're all just standing still, even during Crystal!

Yeah - it looked freeky! Band were good tho :clap:

9 Apr 2006, 01:27

Nick King wrote: I see what you mean about the lifeless audience - they're all just standing still, even during Crystal!

Yeah, looks like the Taras 81 show :laugh:

9 Apr 2006, 01:51

SPOT,

Will you be sharing this show on NOOL? Would be really cool if you do!!!

Aloha!!

9 Apr 2006, 02:13

aloha Order wrote: SPOT,

Will you be sharing this show on NOOL? Would be really cool if you do!!!

Aloha!!

ever heard of copyright? plus you probably be able to buy in a few months anyway.

9 Apr 2006, 05:02

Using old-fashioned VCR technology, I taped it last night and watched it earlier.

f you're not setting your timers with the Video+ code, make sure you manually enter the correct date - save disappointment when you come to watch it back and find you've recorded "Scoop! The Greatest Tabloid Headlines"...

Tricky one a bit, this. I planned to tape the ten-minute feature on Norwegian trio Lorraine before it and set the vid accordingly. What did I get? The Order started early! I hadn't used PDC so it started bang on where Barney introduces Love Vigilantes thankfully.

BLT didn't feature and the atmos was...restrained I thought. Certainly the Noo Yorkers seemed static in the main and Barney was a tad flat here and there vocally but hey! It's the Order. The slot time was ninety minutes and I'd say all of the tracks are there, but if anyone has the actual setlist from that gig handy, could they post it here so we can make the comparison. If anyone wants a VHS copy - without commercials! - get in touch, postage costs only.