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Why does no one seem to like Dracula's Castle?

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I love DC! It's one of my 2 favourites off WftSC, along with Turn. I especially love the descending notes on "So goodbye loooove" the first time the chorus is sung. The piano is also a nice effect.

The Dracula thing seems to be possibly a recurring theme with Barney, as Electronic's "King for a Day" has the bit about "I'll tell you a story how Dracula hunted me down."

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I really like the music and production.

I would be more comfortable if:

A) The title didn't mention Dracula

B) Dracula wasn't mentioned in the lyrics

C) All of the above.

With this band you would do well in occasionally turning a deaf ear to some of the dodgy lyrics as there's always something worthwhile underneath.

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*sigh* okay, i'll add more to this thread: bernard's favorite film at one time was nosferatu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosferatu

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It's one of my favourites on this album and yes the title is naff!

For me I just don't like Working Overtime for some reason, and it doesn't fit in with the rest, it's like it's just been stuck on the end!.

Also a point was made that DC sounds like something off Technique, well there's a few tracks that seem like amalgamations of older NO songs, but all in all it's a belting album.

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Sheds on a Plane wrote: Middle of the Road for me, it's not the best tune, but it's better than "Wanking Overtime"!

Couldn't have put it any better myself...! :nod:

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I do!

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Plain Lazy wrote: I do!

And I hadn't even asked for your hand, yet... :lol:

SHEDi xxx

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I love it. Best song on WFTSC other than Krafty and the title track.

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I love it - but the title is lame and probably makes people feel compelled to say they hate it even though they probably don't.:)

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It has the worst title of any New Order song along with Mr Disco and Hey Now What You Doing* :nod:

*which I have long since instead referred to by the title "Juggernaut" simply cos the song has that kind of vibe to it.

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I think it's a decent song but I agree that the title is missplaced, even moreso than most other NO lyrics. Maybe it's enough to turn people off. I guess the place they wrote it in reminded Barney of Dracula's castle. Whatever.

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By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: It has the worst title of any New Order song along with Mr Disco and Hey Now What You Doing* :nod:

*which I have long since instead referred to by the title "Juggernaut" simply cos the song has that kind of vibe to it.

Don't forget Who's Joe?

Maybe this is the subject of a future thread.

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60 Miles AN Hour has to be a contender - conjures an image of a geriatric Bareny holding up traffic in the middle lane of a motorway!

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Working OVertime is kinda lame too.

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I like it! Haven't heard it for some months though... like the rest of the mediocre album WFTSC...

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Come to think of it, "Waiting For The Sirens Call" is a pretty duff title for either album or song, isn't it?:shrug:

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It's got all New Order's signatures in it without being stunning.

A cliche track I reckon. But still like it.

C+ for end product. Z for effort.

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By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Come to think of it, "Waiting For The Sirens Call" is a pretty duff title for either album or song, isn't it?:shrug:

nah, quite evocative I think.

Dont we all dream of Elle McPherson in the nuddy in a river :shrug:

does it for me :food:

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I'd rather it, than Jetstream . . . I'm I the only one who finds Jetstream, well what's the right word - naff?

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I like it...much. The Hi-Hats keep it a little overly busy, but the bridge is awesome. The half-step bass overlayed with the piano off-beat...it works.

Funny side-note, one of my best friends is now a super-mega-huge Hip-Hop + R&B producer (I'll name him if anyone really cares) back when we had time to hang out, he'd come over and we'd BLAST all my favourite NO tracks. He loved them and when we'd go into the studio his tracks were sprinkled with Technique. Seriously, he has a distinct electric piano / clavinet sound of his own, but when I hear one his new tracks on the radio, I can tell that NO is buried in there...fact. If I started to name bands/acts/albums he has done, it would get stupid and I would make ommisions and mistakes. Let's just fairly say NO is sublimated into Hip-Pop...and I do take some credit.

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Let's just fairly say NO is sublimated into Hip-Pop...and I do take some credit.

It's that kind of modesty that wins friends and influences people here at NOOL towers. Keep it up.

Oh, and I think Mr Disco is a great name for a tune - evocative of exactly the kind of name some ee-d up chancer from Leeds might give himself as he struts his stuff at some sub-Space/Manumission Ibiza meatmarket.

But Dracula's Castle is s sucky title - that much is true. The song itself? Meh...

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It's an OK song; not a corker by any means.

If the Techniquey chuggy-chuggy synths towards the end were peppered through the song it could have been a hell of a lot better.

Defo room for mucho improvement in the right remixing hands.

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It isn't just the Disney title...

it is the lyrics too...

But you came in the night And took my heart To Dracula’s castle in the dark

My son should like this song when he is 4 or 5....

I wonder if Disneyland plays it in their Haunted Mansion attraction?

I picture Count Chocula (cereal) everytime I hear the title in the song.

I feel like Dracula's Castle is some children's toyhouse you can buy... (fisher price used to make a Castle toy too)

Using the word 'dracula' is akin to using the word 'spiderman' or 'snow white' in a New Order song. just doesn't work.

it doesn't work especially because it seems like something Robert Smith would do, and Sumner would not do. very out of character to be so obvious and unimaginative with a silly title.

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SallyCinnamon wrote: I'd rather it, than Jetstream . . . I'm I the only one who finds Jetstream, well what's the right word - naff?

Everyone finds Jetstream naff

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FrogChorus wrote:

SallyCinnamon wrote: I'd rather it, than Jetstream . . . I'm I the only one who finds Jetstream, well what's the right word - naff?

Everyone finds Jetstream naff

Oh, good - - - I feel slightly less lonely then

:blush:

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I think the song is ok, but then I think the majority of the album could stand to be remixed. I think theres probably a few good lines that could be salvaged from the song so we could have a good remix. Or maybe just a nice drums n bass instrumental remix. But hey samething with jetstream. Actually I think hooky's bass is the best thing about the whole album, and some of phil's guitar fills. For me DC just sums up the bad things a about the album. Not that its a bad tune, just poorly presented really. I agree its filler.

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like the song itself, but never cared for the title or most of the lyrics.

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Don't really understand why the title irks so many?:shrug: The lyrics are really bad mind,tho the tune is ok if not inspiring........

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Andy wrote: I really like the music and production.

I would be more comfortable if:

A) The title didn't mention Dracula

B) Dracula wasn't mentioned in the lyrics

C) All of the above.

With this band you would do well in occasionally turning a deaf ear to some of the dodgy lyrics as there's always something worthwhile underneath.

:thumb: :thumb:

When I first seen the track-listing for WFTSC I thought 'Dracula's Castle' is going to be a clinker ... how wrong I was, yes the lyrics are naff but it wouldn't be NO if there were no duff lyrics it is part of their charm and in my opinion DC embodies everything I love about NO.

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Because it is fucking shite. Because it is NO on cruise control. Because it wasted approximately 4 minutes on WFTSC. Because it is devoid of all thought & idea. Because it is Barney's worst lyrics. Ever. Because NO are better than that. Because I can't believe it came from the same band that brought us; LWTUA, Truw Faith, Blue Monday, Round & Round, BLT, Confusion, WiM, Vanishing Point, etc.

Because they don't because they know better.

Just because.

It is shite. End of.

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