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What is Your New Order Top 20 and Why?!

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It is hard to come up with a top 20, since NO is one of the few bands that I actually seem to like most of what they put out for music.

  1. Temptation
  2. All Day Long
  3. Waiting for the Sirens Call
  4. Bizarre Love Triangle
  5. The Perfect Kiss
  6. Blue Monday
  7. Regret
  8. True Faith
  9. Crystal
  10. Run
  11. Turn
  12. Ceremony
  13. 1963
  14. Here to Stay
  15. Love Vigilantes
  16. The Village
  17. Subculture
  18. Shellshock
  19. Krafty
  20. Fine Time

Psy

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  1. Perfect Kiss – perfect in every way. Their defining moment for me, an electronic symphony with a big orgasmic ending. Never beaten.

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Things get too blurry after my top 5.

  1. TPK
  2. Dream Attack
  3. Turn
  4. Temptation
  5. Regret
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Stuff like this is ridiculously difficult...

But this week:

  1. TPK
  2. Sunrise
  3. Dream Attack
  4. Procession
  5. Regret
  6. Hurt
  7. Ceremony
  8. STYT
  9. The Village
  10. 586
  11. KW1
  12. DNE
  13. True Faith
  14. Mr. Disco
  15. EGG
  16. Temptation
  17. BM
  18. Broken Promise
  19. BLT
  20. Ecstasy

Even then some of these deserve to be higher up/lower down. There's more tunes i'd like to add

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Ceremony [7"] Vanishing Point Age of Consent Sunrise Run The Perfect Kiss Crystal WFTSC Regret Your Silent Face

Bizarre Love Triangle [Substance remix] True Faith [with new intro] Everything's Gone Green Procession Hurt All The Way Temptation Dreams Never End Lonesome Tonight Love Vigilantes/Leave Me Alone

Near enough. And in that order.

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1 True Faith 2 Perfect Kiss 3 Regret 4 Vanishing Point 5 1963 6 Round and Round 7 Thieves like us 8 WFTSC 9 Ruined in a day 10 Here to Stay 11 Crystal 12 BLT 13 Paradise 14 Lonesome Tonight 15 Run 16 Subculture 17 Sooner than you think 18 Temptation 19 Leave me Alone 20 Ceremony

* Fairly accurate with some songs toward the bottom could flip-flop positions. BLT would be higher if I hadn't heard it so damn much.

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temptation - up in a lonely place - down run - up lonesome tonight - down round & round - up sunrise - down mr. disco - up thieves like us - down true faith - up 1963 - down fine time - up special - down the village - up turn my way - down regret - ? vanishing point - down leave me alone - definitely down ICB - way down elegia - really far down best & marsh - acceptance

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Not really in any order :

  1. Ceremony (orig version)
  2. Doubts Even Here
  3. Dreams Never End
  4. Chosen Time
  5. Truth
  6. Everything's Gone Green
  7. Senses
  8. ICB
  9. Denial 10.Mesh 11.Cries and Whispers 12.In A Lonely Place 13.The Him 14.Age Of Consent 15.Blue Monday 16.Procession 17.Lonesome Tonight
  10. Too Late
  11. Your Silent Face
  12. Temptation
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Shellshocker wrote:

One Brain wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: I think the question was asked because you seem to think Ceremony and Temptation were on Movement in your original post!

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Are you saying Americans don't know anything about New Order?

Don't need to, you do it yourselves! :evil4:

Ricardo's original comment comes from the fact that many US versions of albums have additional tracks on, such as PC&L which featured Blue Monday and The Beach, which aren't on the definitive UK release. It naturally follows that a US Movement (and we know it doesn't, before anyone argues the toss) could feature Ceremony, IALP, EGG, Procession, Hurt, Temptation, Mesh, C&W etc etc.

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Yeah, any list without Blue Monday should be discarded!

Then Why is the thread called "What is your New Order Top 20 and Why ?! ?

I could say any list without Chosen Time should be discarded !

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  1. TEMPTATION
  2. Leave Me Alone
  3. Your Silent Face
  4. Ceremony
  5. Waiting For The Siren's Call
  6. 1963
  7. Here To Stay
  8. Love Vigilantes
  9. FACE UP
  10. BLT
  11. Love Less
  12. Mesh
  13. World
  14. As It Is When It Was
  15. Guilt Is A Useless Emotion
  16. Turn My Way
  17. Mr. Disco
  18. Age Of Consent
  19. Sooner Thank You Think
  20. Shell Shock

Don't ask me why.

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((((e))))

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oldmonkey wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

One Brain wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: I think the question was asked because you seem to think Ceremony and Temptation were on Movement in your original post!

:nod:

Are you saying Americans don't know anything about New Order?

Don't need to, you do it yourselves! :evil4:

Ricardo's original comment comes from the fact that many US versions of albums have additional tracks on, such as PC&L which featured Blue Monday and The Beach, which aren't on the definitive UK release. It naturally follows that a US Movement (and we know it doesn't, before anyone argues the toss) could feature Ceremony, IALP, EGG, Procession, Hurt, Temptation, Mesh, C&W etc etc.

OK. I can tell you it doesn't have Temptation & Ceremony, though.

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OK, I've finally done it. Alway an impossible task, but at least a top 20 means I don't have to leave off as many great songs.

  1. Bizarre Love Triangle- Great dance beat, cryptic yet cool lyrics & title

  2. Regret- Combines all the best elements of New Order-synth, guitars, drums, esoteric lyrics. Wistful yet uplifting and hopeful

  3. The Perfect Kiss-Great beat & lyrics

  4. Dream Attack- Beatutiful song, especially guitars

  5. Blue Monday- Great dance beat, helped popularize drum machines, very memorable bass riff by Hooky. Important song even though not as popular among NOOLers.

  6. Fine Time- Great dance beat. "I never met a girl with all her own teeth."

  7. Confusion- Great dance beat

  8. Love Less- Beautiful, sad song. Both lyrically & musically.

  9. Guilty Partner- Great lyrics (I always know what it takes to make you my lover), great guitars

  10. Shellshock- Great dance beat

  11. Here to Stay-Wonderfully uplifting & happy

  12. Run-Beautiful song, especially guitars, with a nice assist from drums

  13. All the Way-Uplifting lyrics, guitars

  14. World-Great beat, good lyrics

  15. True Faith- Great beat especialy drums

  16. Vanishing Point- Great synth sounds, cool lyrics

  17. Ruined in a Day- Nice sombre beat, good lyrics

  18. Round & Round- great dance beat, cool lyrics

  19. Temptation- Upbeat, good lyrics (Oh, you've got green eyes...) Another song that blends all of the elements of New Order rather well

  20. Leave Me Alone- Beautiful guitars, nice lyrics

  21. Let's Go-I love the lyrics, great guitars

  22. Subculture- great beat, nice esoteric lyrics

  23. Paradise- Plaintive, yearning sound

  24. Ceremony- Guitar (esp. opening) & drums

  25. Guilt is a Usless Emotion-Great dance beat

OK, so I did 25. So what?? :boxer:

Apologies to Weirdo, Age of Consent, Dreams Never End, Young Offender, Liar, and many many others!

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Shellshocker wrote:

oldmonkey wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

One Brain wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: I think the question was asked because you seem to think Ceremony and Temptation were on Movement in your original post!

:nod:

Are you saying Americans don't know anything about New Order?

Don't need to, you do it yourselves! :evil4:

Ricardo's original comment comes from the fact that many US versions of albums have additional tracks on, such as PC&L which featured Blue Monday and The Beach, which aren't on the definitive UK release. It naturally follows that a US Movement (and we know it doesn't, before anyone argues the toss) could feature Ceremony, IALP, EGG, Procession, Hurt, Temptation, Mesh, C&W etc etc.

OK. I can tell you it doesn't have Temptation & Ceremony, though.

Really? Well I never! :laugh:

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I hope that this is not a bad thing, to be more of a Joy Division fan than a NO fan, well....NO is JD, so may I list my top 10 JD Songs? then........Okay....here it goes:

  1. Exercise One
  2. Glass
  3. Something Must Break
  4. Heart and Soul
  5. The Only Mistake
  6. Ice Age (?)
  7. Ceremony
  8. Novelty
  9. Love Will Tear Us Apart
  10. Transmission

New Order

  1. Ruined In A Day
  2. Blue Monday ( all versions)
  3. Bizarre Love Triangle
  4. Krafty
  5. Crystal
  6. True Faith
  7. The Perfect Kiss
  8. Round and Round
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In no decipherable order

Perfect Kiss Ceremony Temptation Regret Procession Primitive Notion Sirens Call Dream Attack Sooner Than You Think Bizarre Love Triangle True Faith Dreams Never End Crystal Sunrise Elegia

Don't think that's 20, never mind

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Smells Like Teen Spirit-really great dance beat; I'm so glad they ditched Hannett and got Butch Vig to produce.

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  1. Ceremony......both a fitting end to one era and a brilliant begining for the next. Still thrills me today as it did then.

2.Regret......Tim/oldmonkey said it best, all the top NO bits in one song.

3.Everything's Gone Green.....caught my ear with the sequencers. I love the sound of Barney's vocals for the enigmatic lyrics. Part of the soundtrack on my way for my first NO gig as well.

4Age Of Consent.......another track that caught me a bit by surprise, I heard it on the radio without knowing that PC&L was about to be released and thought.....New New Order?.........YESSSSS!!!!!!

5.TemptationMy friends and I badgered the local college DJ's to play that song every day until we got our own copies.....well, the badgering didn't end at that point, truth be told.

6.Your Silent Face.......just absolutely gorgeous.

7Waiting For The Sirens' Call.........same ingredients as for Regret

8As It Is When It Was....lyrics and the melody. A nice one to reminisce to

9Perfect Kiss.....the build up to the mash up at the end.

10Hurt......for some of the same reasons as EGG

11Truth......entrancing rhythm, melodica, and lyrics.

12Lonesome Tonight..........accidentally played this b-side first before TLU............it was at least a week before I got to the a-side.

13Sunrise.........because it rocks, quite simply.

14Run...maybe not the best lyrics for me, but damn, the music is something else

15Vanishing Point.....yep, shoulda been a single

16Crystal........classic set opener

17In A Lonely Place...........what a turn around from the a-side

18Love Vigilantes........interesting lyrics, and great 'techno 'n' western' music.

19Procession.......brilliant intro both musically and for Barney's first line, which has become a catchphrase of mine

20Angel Dust......the lyrics for starters, also one of my fave guitar tracks from Barney

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oo0o another Tops List. This is the current approximate Desert Island Top 20. Earlier songs are once the sing Deep like Ian has been thoroughly shaken out. Can't really say any whys and some make me feel like a Window licker because I am too young and wasn't there. But no matter. And some are too close in position to choose.

  1. Ceremony. Dreams Never End. Temptation. Chosen Time.
  2. ICB.
  3. Leave Me Alone. 586.
  4. Sunrise. Special.
  5. Hurt. Lonesome Tonite. Love Less.
  6. Crystal.
  7. Age Of Consent. Ruined In a Day.
  8. True Faith. Fine Time. YSF- written as Kraftwerk 1. If only so that I do not write it YSL as inclined to do.
  9. Hurt. Face Up. Regret.
  10. Love Vigilantes. Mr. Disco. Blue Monday. Bizarre Love Triangle.
  11. Waiting For The Sirens' Call. Turn.
  12. EGG.
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i have writen down all of your top 20's ,i found them very very intersesting. i find the music makes me transcend depression or fear ,the music is magically intricate...new order is part of my soul glad to see others foaming at the mouth too!!! my top 10 1.waiting for the sirens call (sweet humble lyrics) 2.vicious streak 2.someone like you 3.turn my way 4.krafty 5.crystal 6.turn 8.theives like us 9.ceremony 10.primitive notion

im probably younger than most new order fans!

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Alan Paul Kitching wrote:

19. In A Lonely Place - The missing link between JD and NO IMO wished I'd seen it live at Ally Pally '98!

Did they play IALP at Ally Pally?, cos i dont remember it. Mebbe that was the point when the drugs kicked in, and i carried on dancing.

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Where the fuck do you start?!!!

I guess Dream Attack is somewhere near the top, as is Round & Round (lyrics v. personal to me). And probably Turn My Way

Having not yet read the thread in full I doubt Dracula's fookin Castle is mentioned by anyone!!!! :laugh: :laugh:

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Run Subculture 1963 In a Lonely Place True Faith Blue Monday Love Less Vanishing Point Round and Round Guilt is a Useless Emotion Ceremony Jetstream Regret Murder Bizarre Love Triangle

Those are my favorite tracks :)


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Ceremony, Dreams Never End, Procession, Temptation, Age Of Consent, Your Silent Face, Love Vigilantes, TPK, Sunrise, Subculture, AIIWIW, BLT, True Faith, All The Way, Run, Regret, Crystal, Here To Stay, Road To Ruin & Turn.

A mix of Old and New, from the guitar side to the dance side. There are a few notable exceptions, but that's today's choices.

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There are a few notable exceptions

Such as HURT and CHOSEN TIME !

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Digital Mike wrote:

There are a few notable exceptions

Such as HURT and CHOSEN TIME !

And E/G/G, Thieves, TTON, Face Up, Paradise, ...... ;)

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i find it frustrating to talk about new order all smalltalkish,,its hard not to get all deep and meaningful really!!!! im gona b sticking round to get to know all you wonderful people a wee bit better,,,i have no idea if people are actually reading still at this point...ahhh well ......new zealand is cold its a winter frosty bastard tonight...chattering teeth the freakin works. alot of the people here are american .....thats cool i suppose,were all the same anyway all divine deciples of life...(yeah that sounds good) comon people do some more top 20's im one person who loves to read top 20's of my fav band...

is there a reader??? duno...im keeping myself great company so no shame anyway. got mates but no new order loving mates:clap: :read:

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Burt Reynolds wrote:

Alan Paul Kitching wrote:

19. In A Lonely Place - The missing link between JD and NO IMO wished I'd seen it live at Ally Pally '98!

Did they play IALP at Ally Pally?, cos i dont remember it. Mebbe that was the point when the drugs kicked in, and i carried on dancing.

Hi Burt In A Lonely Place was performed at Ally Pally in 1998 as it was on the extra's on either the 3:16 Reading Festival '98/New York '81 or 5:11 Finsbury Park 5th June 2002 DVD's. It was only a 15 sec snippet but from what I saw it looked like a good performance of it.

Thanks to everyone for replying to this post as its been interesting to see what NO songs people like and dislike and why people like them and so far no one has slagged anyone's choices off!:thumb:

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Alan Paul Kitching wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Alan Paul Kitching wrote:

19. In A Lonely Place - The missing link between JD and NO IMO wished I'd seen it live at Ally Pally '98!

Did they play IALP at Ally Pally?, cos i dont remember it. Mebbe that was the point when the drugs kicked in, and i carried on dancing.

Hi Burt In A Lonely Place was performed at Ally Pally in 1998 as it was on the extra's on either the 3:16 Reading Festival '98/New York '81 or 5:11 Finsbury Park 5th June 2002 DVD's. It was only a 15 sec snippet but from what I saw it looked like a good performance of it.

Thanks to everyone for replying to this post as its been interesting to see what NO songs people like and dislike and why people like them and so far no one has slagged anyone's choices off!:thumb:

IALP was from Manc Apollo Alan.

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Top 20

AOC, Ceremony, YSF, Temptation, Regret, Dreams Never End, Crystal, Leave Me Alone, Sunrise, TPK, The Village, Chosen Time, Love Vigilantes, Let's Go, EGG, Hurt, Lonesome Tonight, WFTSC, Mesh and Procession.

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Digital Mike wrote:

There are a few notable exceptions

Such as my personal favorite, Blue Monday!

Glad to see you finally admitting it!!

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