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10 Apr 2002, 13:06

I searched my database and it seems that...

Paris Angel Peregrin Underfoot Liam St-Paul Mr Frog Sample John Murphy Jerry Murphy James Walsh Ian Curtis (or Stacy Jane McGory) James Walsh again Karen James

= the SAME DAMN PERSON!

So I banned all of them, it was quite simple knowing that fact.

Gosh, some people REALLY have time to waste.

I'll seriously have to check for duplicate IP addresses more often.

10 Apr 2002, 13:11

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10 Apr 2002, 13:37

I'm not surprised by that at all.

10 Apr 2002, 13:50

i would like to now reveal that i am in fact every person on this board, sorry about that nick.

10 Apr 2002, 14:19

what??? are you sure Major?? So...i am not me , but you are :confused: Oh my god, this is really doing my head in now!!

Major

10 Apr 2002, 14:20

what??? are you sure Major?? So...i am not me , but you are :confused: Oh my god, this is really doing my head in now!!

Major

it's alright....to be a multiple-poster

10 Apr 2002, 14:21

Yes, it's true.... so i guess i'm a schizophrenic.

10 Apr 2002, 14:38

"Neo, let me tell you about the Matrix...."

:D

10 Apr 2002, 14:43

Major...quit your lying!!!

I am, in fact, every person on this board...except for Nic...but I am Sebastien!!!!

oh...and I'm not April or Liv either...

well, come to think of it, I'm not even me...

so, uhm, never mind...maybe you are me!!!!

10 Apr 2002, 15:04

Even Jerry Murphy!

10 Apr 2002, 15:05

I've got it: WE ARE ALL US!! or does that sound too stupid?? Guess we need a mass-shrink session to figure us all out. But the good news is: it's Curtains for Ian :D

10 Apr 2002, 15:16

Until he/she comes back under another name that is...

10 Apr 2002, 15:24

Why do I feel like being a Borg right now?

10 Apr 2002, 15:33

???borg??? what's that Nick? Bjorn or Cy

10 Apr 2002, 15:40

I got on quite well with Jerry Murphy :evil4:

10 Apr 2002, 16:23

Shit!! :eek: :eek:

That's it.....

I'm even MORE paranoid now..... :( :(

10 Apr 2002, 16:23

Originally posted by ShugZV I got on quite well with Jerry Murphy

I didn't.

In fact i got an official warning from nick for calling him/her/it a f****** D***head... is that now revoked mr spotnick? :skeptic:

10 Apr 2002, 16:24

Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! Shit!! That's it.....I'm even MORE paranoid now..... :( :(

Is that possible?

10 Apr 2002, 18:40

HELL STEVIEBOY - YES!!! :nod: Have you seen the state of my cruddy drumkit lately? Who do you think has been rigging up the damn thing so that it collapses at every gig I ever bleedin do???

And as for the video shoot today, how do you think I felt standing out there in the bloody street with a can of spray paint in my hand looking like a dork surrounded by all these Rockabilly/Elvis clones (three of the rest of the band) around me...fuckin hell! Paranoid ?? You ain't heard the PROPER meaning of the word!! :nonono: :lol: :lol:

10 Apr 2002, 20:01

I did sort of point this out the other week......when "Karen James" knew some details about a "Peregrine Underfoot" thread that had taken place before "she" joined........

10 Apr 2002, 20:15

Very dodgy business indeed! :nonono:

:cool2: :cool2:

10 Apr 2002, 22:45

Originally posted by Major Tarantino > Originally posted by ShugZV> I got on quite well with Jerry Murphy

I didn't.

In fact i got an official warning from nick for calling him/her/it a f****** D***head... is that now revoked mr spotnick? :skeptic:

Of course.

10 Apr 2002, 22:46

Seriously I can't believe how much time some people have to waste registering 8 different hotmail account to insult people here...!

10 Apr 2002, 23:29

I can't believe it either ... Wonder which name they'll be lurking under next time ...

I am not innocent of creating new email accounts however ... Incase there are any people in here who buy music from amazon, they have a 'refer a friend scheme' where you give amazon a list of email addresses of your friends and they send them free 5 pound gift vouchers as an incentive to buy stuff ... So then you just use the gift voucher and get a pretty decent discount ... Pretty sneaky eh ?

11 Apr 2002, 04:24

What a sad loser.

As stated though, I suppose a few signs were there - for instance, knowing about P.Underfoot (who was also boasting about going to all 3 Brixton shows at the time), and also whinging about ticket prices (which was Liam St if I remember rightly).

11 Apr 2002, 04:31

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by Major Tarantino> > > > Originally posted by ShugZV> > I got on quite well with Jerry Murphy>

I didn't.

In fact i got an official warning from nick for calling him/her/it a f****** D***head... is that now revoked mr spotnick? :skeptic:

Of course.

:jump: hooray! :jump:

My name has been cleared! The last few months have been hell, oh.. no-one said anything, but the looks... the conversations stopping when i started a thread..

Hang on.. maybe i've been talking to marty too much... i'm getting paranoid..

11 Apr 2002, 05:04

Oh dear... what a sad twat! :nonono:

11 Apr 2002, 06:26

Excellent detective work, Sebsy!

11 Apr 2002, 07:02

Well about 5 of them were bleeding obvious, just in case it isn't obvious he/she obviously has some hacking skills. site crashes and mysterious viewing increases always seem to coincide with his/her activity on the board,

11 Apr 2002, 07:07

Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© Well about 5 of them were bleeding obvious, just in case it isn't obvious he/she obviously has some hacking skills. site crashes and mysterious viewing increases always seem to coincide with his/her activity on the board,

Yeah, i noticed that too.

11 Apr 2002, 07:16

Originally posted by Zizou Zidane I did sort of point this out the other week......when "Karen James" knew some details about a "Peregrine Underfoot" thread that had taken place before "she" joined........

As I said above - it was a bit obvious. I challenged "James Walsh" and "Karen James" on another thread, which prompted the tirade of abuse. Can't understand what people aim to achieve by sabotaging a forum. One way round it for the future may be to publish the IP address of the user underneath their name on the forum - if this IP has now been banned though, it will only be a matter of time before they resurface with another IP - not many companies do static addresses (I'm lucky, as my work access is static).

11 Apr 2002, 07:36

Displaying the IP address can help, but by the same token it's not hard to "hide" behind a proxy server...

The sad fact is that whatever, there will always be the James Walshes of the world that make it their mission to eff things up.

11 Apr 2002, 07:55

I think when the knobhead returns in it's new guise it'll be pretty obvious now anyway. I'm sure the cretin will get bored of doing it eventually.

11 Apr 2002, 08:03

Sebsy? Guess again :D

11 Apr 2002, 08:49

Originally posted by Spotnick Sebsy? Guess again :D

What you saying Nic? That its actually you? :skeptic:

11 Apr 2002, 09:09

Originally posted by Seb Briggs > Originally posted by Spotnick> Sebsy? Guess again :D

What you saying Nic? That its actually you? :skeptic:

see earlier post re hacking.

11 Apr 2002, 09:18

You are all in on it... :skeptic:

It's like the X-Files in here.... :alien:

11 Apr 2002, 09:43

Originally posted by ShugZV I got on quite well with Jerry Murphy

funny that you got along with him, but not the other 7, don't ya think ???

11 Apr 2002, 09:45

Originally posted by mario ???borg???what's that Nick?Bjorn or Cy

nic is talking about the ultimate villans for the Star Trek Next Generation series (I hope) who just happen to be my favorite bad guys; we're practically unstoppable

11 Apr 2002, 09:47

hahahahaha

because it was a webmaster trying to enforce the law here, he assumed it was me!!!!!!!

hilarious!

woops, sorry, I'm supposed to be dead.

Aurevoir.

ZebZy.

P.S. I do miss several people here, and I am a frequent reader of Allen Jarvis' messages (coz I'm a genuine fan).

11 Apr 2002, 10:00

Originally posted by Sébastien Boisvert hahahahahabecause it was a webmaster trying to enforce the law here, he assumed it was me!!!!!!!hilarious!woops, sorry, I'm supposed to be dead.Aurevoir.ZebZy.P.S. I do miss several people here, and I am a frequent reader of Allen Jarvis' messages (coz I'm a genuine fan).

:hi:

11 Apr 2002, 10:36

Eh? Who said it was Mr Boisvert?

Take it you + Nic not made up then?

11 Apr 2002, 10:54

Originally posted by Sébastien Boisvert P.S. I do miss several people here, and I am a frequent reader of Allen Jarvis' messages (coz I'm a genuine fan).

Why, you're making me blush, Sébastien. ;)

Bit gutted by this whole nonsense as I thought I'd genuinely 'bonded' with Karen James, Stone Roses or no Stone Roses. Oh, how I miss her. ;)

11 Apr 2002, 11:26

Hold on, didn't 'Karen James' accuse 'James Walsh' of sending her abusive e-mails?

Jeeeessuuus, this fella has one hell of an imagination - numerous characters living in his head, and a couple of them fighting with each other... :confused:

11 Apr 2002, 11:31

So who is the real person behind all this shite then Nic?

Sarge ? Rosemary the Telephone Operator ? Penry, the Mild-mannered Janitor ?

11 Apr 2002, 12:55

Originally posted by Jim Giliberto > Originally posted by ShugZV> I got on quite well with Jerry Murphy

funny that you got along with him, but not the other 7, don't ya think ???

Jimbo, the other 7 never mentioned Glasgow Celtic :spit:

11 Apr 2002, 16:32

It all makes sense now...

But what the fuck was all that apologising for being a alcoholic?!?! Jeez...

Liv :angel:

11 Apr 2002, 16:33

Thought Karen James was Peregrin...after the abusive message to Jarvo about "remeber the falcon"....peregrin Falcon??

Liv :angel:

11 Apr 2002, 16:37

Originally posted by Liv Thought Karen James was Peregrin...after the abusive message to Jarvo about "remeber the falcon"....peregrin Falcon??Liv

Was that not a spaceship in Star Wars?

11 Apr 2002, 21:48

Originally posted by ShugZV > Originally posted by Liv> Thought Karen James was Peregrin...after the abusive message to Jarvo about "remeber the falcon"....peregrin Falcon??> > Liv>

Was that not a spaceship in Star Wars?

Nah, dear Shug, that was the Millenium Falcon.

11 Apr 2002, 22:13

Surely it's someone who seriously need friends.

I suspect our goat raper friend to actually be the one (if you remember the old forums of NewOrderOnline).

Well, actually, you don't know it, but you're IP is logged on this site when you logon, I don't use it unless a case of abuse, I'm reporting abuse to the ISP (like in this case).. I must say I didn't use it often, I think it's the 2nd time. We don't have many banned users here, I think this one's the 2nd after Mrs Sharon Finch who insulted all people in some posts and after receiving threats from her husband, that's mostly it.

But I never tried to see if many people used the same IP, I tried it only when someone (don't remember who) said that Karen James & James Walsh sure looked like the same person.

What is really sad is that I actually mailed that "Ian Curtis" and he replied telling it was unfair I banned >HER< when James Walsh was still posting.

Gosh, somebody needs a doctor quick!

Anyways, I'll check the database to see if someone else than Martin has 3-4 identities this time :D

P/S: Most of your posts are funny as hell, keep on! :D

11 Apr 2002, 22:22

you mean that the guy has been talking to himself/herself on the forum? i remember there was an argument between "ian Curtis" and "james Walsh" and now that i realized it's the same person...that's quite pathetic. talking to yourself on a forum...makes you wonder...

12 Apr 2002, 04:58

Try to remember fettlers that some people should be pitied rather than scorned. In this case a little compassion towards this person would go a long way too. God forbid any of you should find yourselves in a position where you have the deeply disturbing feelings of lonliness and inadequacy so obviously in this case the driving force behind these multiple personalities. The fact is that lonely people behave in apparently stupid ways to gain a little attention and it is all too easy to close ranks, gang up on that person and dismiss them as a crackpot. The hard thing is to reach out and try to understand and help that person through their problems. Also, remembering one thing would do none of us any harm....................

..........There but for the grace of God (or whoever) go I!

:smoking:

12 Apr 2002, 06:59

I'm with Muffy on this one. I was also a bit shocked at the reaction the "James Walsh" character got when he posted about his alcoholism. At that point nobody knew about the multiple personalities and there was nothing but wisecracks from many of the regular posters. As Muffy said a bit of compassion doesn't go amiss sometimes.

12 Apr 2002, 07:10

Your both right, and Muffy your far too bloody nice!

In saying that, it's not too easy to show compassion to someone whose typing abuse about you is it? Theres been a couple of occassions when genuine members have asked advice etc on here and had nothing but support from other posters. I didnt ever see the Alcoholism post, but if he had wanted support theres better ways to go about it than abusing everyone on the board.

12 Apr 2002, 07:15

You do have a point there Seb, I only read the "F*** OFF YOU UGLY C***" jibe he made at you on an old thread two minutes ago. I don't know how compassionate I would be feeling after that. I dunno though I just feel a bit sorry for anyone who goes to those sorts of lengths. I hope the guy/girl sorts themselves out that's all.

12 Apr 2002, 07:21

Originally posted by Grahame Ferguson I'm with Muffy on this one. I was also a bit shocked at the reaction the "James Walsh" character got when he posted about his alcoholism. At that point nobody knew about the multiple personalities and there was nothing but wisecracks from many of the regular posters. As Muffy said a bit of compassion doesn't go amiss sometimes.

I think that was partly because no-one beleived a word he typed, he may have problems or he may just be a cunt. How are we ever gonna find out? It's not like he engages with people on a level that would make this in any way likely.

12 Apr 2002, 07:21

Originally posted by Grahame Ferguson You do have a point there Seb, I only read the "F*** OFF YOU UGLY C***" jibe he made at you on an old thread two minutes ago. I don't know how compassionate I would be feeling after that. I dunno though I just feel a bit sorry for anyone who goes to those sorts of lengths. I hope the guy/girl sorts themselves out that's all.

The worst thing about that insult is it aint bloody true ;).

But youre right, it is a bit sad, and I'd hope if in the unlikely event Mr Walsh was to reincarnate and apologise, we'd happily overlook past events. (S)He is obvioulsy an 'Order fan after all!

12 Apr 2002, 07:54

Let's just all take joy in the fact that it's all very, very funny. :lol:

12 Apr 2002, 08:03

Originally posted by Seb Briggs Your both right, and Muffy your far too bloody nice! In saying that, it's not too easy to show compassion to someone whose typing abuse about you is it? Theres been a couple of occassions when genuine members have asked advice etc on here and had nothing but support from other posters. I didnt ever see the Alcoholism post, but if he had wanted support theres better ways to go about it than abusing everyone on the board.

Your point is a valid one Snake but i'm talking specifically about the reactions in this thread now that it is known that this individual has been posting under multiple names. Some people here seem a bit eager to point out how clever they are rather than taking a step back and realising that this is just a sad person seeking attention. Pure badness is a rare thing, it's unlikely this person is just being a c**t for the sake of it. It is much more likely that they just need someone to listen to what they have to say. Many children with behavioural disorders are just seeking attention, the same is true in adults too. It's just that adults tend to misbehave for attention in much more bizarre ways.

:smoking:

12 Apr 2002, 08:12

muffy, you are a very wise person. think the thread should be closed now after your posting.

12 Apr 2002, 08:33

you are of course right Muffy, and to be honest I hadn't even thought of it that way.

12 Apr 2002, 09:04

Nor had I. Thanks, Muffy, for making us all think a bit and take a step back before adding flames to what has gone before.

12 Apr 2002, 09:17

Originally posted by Muffy Try to remember fettlers that some people should be pitied rather than scorned. In this case a little compassion towards this person would go a long way too. God forbid any of you should find yourselves in a position where you have the deeply disturbing feelings of lonliness and inadequacy so obviously in this case the driving force behind these multiple personalities. The fact is that lonely people behave in apparently stupid ways to gain a little attention and it is all too easy to close ranks, gang up on that person and dismiss them as a crackpot. The hard thing is to reach out and try to understand and help that person through their problems. Also, remembering one thing would do none of us any harm..............................There but for the grace of God (or whoever) go I!

:smoking: :skeptic: :evil4:

12 Apr 2002, 09:20

Originally posted by Green > Originally posted by ShugZV> > > > Originally posted by Liv> > Thought Karen James was Peregrin...after the abusive message to Jarvo about "remeber the falcon"....peregrin Falcon??> > > > Liv> > >

Was that not a spaceship in Star Wars?

Nah, dear Shug, that was the Millenium Falcon.

:lol: Mr Green - this is Mr Shug here...... I was taking the piss me ole mucker :evil4: You's know me better than that.....surely;)

12 Apr 2002, 09:35

Originally posted by ShugZV > Originally posted by Jim Giliberto> > > > Originally posted by ShugZV> > I got on quite well with Jerry Murphy>

funny that you got along with him, but not the other 7, don't ya think ???

Jimbo, the other 7 never mentioned Glasgow Celtic :spit:

he knew the way right to yer heart :big grin:

12 Apr 2002, 09:40

He certainly did Jimbo :lol:

I must say though - to post under several different alias' - you'd have to be a bit MAD;) Fair play - he kept us entertained (although I disagree with the assassinations he tried to dish out to several of you on here!)

12 Apr 2002, 11:27

Originally posted by dave hibell muffy, you are a very wise person.

:o

12 Apr 2002, 14:17

why is it that whenever i don't visit this site for ages exciting and interesting things always happen. guess i should just give up on the homework thang and visit more regularly.

12 Apr 2002, 19:21

Originally posted by ShugZV > Originally posted by Green> > > > Originally posted by ShugZV> > > > > > > Originally posted by Liv> > > Thought Karen James was Peregrin...after the abusive message to Jarvo about "remeber the falcon"....peregrin Falcon??> > > > > > Liv> > > > > >

Was that not a spaceship in Star Wars?

Nah, dear Shug, that was the Millenium Falcon.

:lol: Mr Green - this is Mr Shug here...... I was taking the piss me ole mucker :evil4: You's know me better than that.....surely;)

:o Sorry bout that one! Was in a daze yesterday after 2 hours of sleep and a very hard day at work (that's what I hate about mid-week gigs; once in awhile you just gotta forget things like sleep!).

12 Apr 2002, 19:29

Nae bother Green guy;) I suppose I talk that much shite - people just don't know when to take me seriously anymore :evil4:

12 Apr 2002, 21:30

maybe it's because i'm not british (i assume this guy is british with all that slang he/she uses), but i usually don't have a clue what "ian curtis" was saying. all that weird slang and anedotes...only when he called people f***** C*nts did i know he was putting people down. am i the only one?

13 Apr 2002, 00:18

Originally posted by snucker maybe it's because i'm not british (i assume this guy is british with all that slang he/she uses), but i usually don't have a clue what "ian curtis" was saying. all that weird slang and anedotes...only when he called people f***** C*nts did i know he was putting people down. am i the only one?

Yeah, if you removed the bitterness and swearing, there wasn't much of substance in any of "their" posts. BTW Snuck, the wording on your last line sounds like your asking if you are the only F^%#ing c*@t, which you clearly aren't. :wink: Md :cool:

13 Apr 2002, 09:49

I don't know if it's real, but here is the last reply I got from reporting the abuse of that member...

Apologies for the inconvenience caused as a result of the recent activites of this particular individual.

The problem that you brought to our attention yesterday afternoon, April 11 2002, has now been dealt with internally. As she was in breach of her own contract with us the individual was dismissed with immediate effect. You will no longer have to tolerate any further interference within your site/forum.

Once again may I take this opportunity to apologise for the obvious concern caused to yourself and all existing members on your site. Please contact me on the below address if you require any further assistance on this matter.

Kind regards,

John Purdon

13 Apr 2002, 15:46

Originally posted by CandyTheBear > Originally posted by snucker> maybe it's because i'm not british (i assume this guy is british with all that slang he/she uses), but i usually don't have a clue what "ian curtis" was saying. all that weird slang and anedotes...only when he called people f***** C*nts did i know he was putting people down. am i the only one?

Yeah, if you removed the bitterness and swearing, there wasn't much of substance in any of "their" posts. BTW Snuck, the wording on your last line sounds like your asking if you are the only F^%#ing c*@t, which you clearly aren't. :wink: Md :cool:

thanks for your concern, but i have a good amount of self-esteem. i was just asking if anyone could understand the weird crap ian curtis says...