Here to Stay, who loves it.

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No the hounds can't go to the same place as the bunnymen! :o so sorry - very poor gag...

Originally posted by Huntsman hts in the 'excellent' region of former new order single releases. not the depth of crystal, instead, a great pop record. end chrous one of the most sublime uses of barney's silky vocals.

New Order, to me go much deeper than pop. We can`t lable such purveyors of musical bliss as pop, can we?

even new order admit to being a pop band unfortunately. i believe they are far deeper than what is known as 'pop' however, am aware of my bias towards them.

joy division where never pop, neither was early order ... but true faith and beyond no turned punk to pop - i doubt many would disagree with this.

Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! > Originally posted by Seb Briggs> > > I think part of the chem bros bit being dropped is coz they've got a new single out next week. Again well done London Records for postponing the NO single to within a week of the Chem bros one, potentially making hard up CB fans have to make a choice between the two.

WELL DONE London Records?? I hope you're being sarcastic Sebsy!!.... Don't give those useless bastards any credit AT ALL! They've delayed the thing enough as it is - now timing it alongside Oasis, Pulp, The Streets, Doves, and about a dozen other huge names for the same release date. Me thinks even the next Chems single proper with that old lemon-sucker Richard Ashcrap will trounce it chart wise. Simply because Ashcrap sings on it and the NME (as with Oarsis) still lick his arse at every available opportunity. I was really hoping New Order would have a top ten hit with this one, as it's a NEW song, not lifted off the album, but now I'm not so sure. Probably top 20 at the very best. Sorry for being so pessimistic but there you go....besides, the song isn't even playlisted yet, so what chance is it going to have?? :( :(

15 ain't bad.

I think the best bit in the song is when the bass comes in quietly half way through the first verse.

At the beginning I didn't like the song, cos I expected something closer to the excellent Out of Control (I was a bit disappointed by the Chems' production :(. Had the impression that they had done a fat soup with all the sounds they could find on their synths ).

But now it's grown on me and I just can't refrain from listening (and singing) to it at least 6 times a day in my car .

...and as i'm listening to the Felix da Housecat mix again, i realise that there *is* one small thing about it that bothers me. apart from the echo placed on Barney's vocal. (and keep in mind that i do actually like this mix quite a bit. :D )

there's one recurring keyboard bit that sounds a bit too much like "Enjoy the Silence" for my taste.

does anyone else hear this as well...?

Originally posted by janaki ...and as i'm listening to the Felix da Housecat mix again, i realise that there *is* one small thing about it that bothers me. apart from the echo placed on Barney's vocal. (and keep in mind that i do actually like this mix quite a bit. :D )there's one recurring keyboard bit that sounds a bit too much like "Enjoy the Silence" for my taste.does anyone else hear this as well...?

I hope you're wrong, but I will listen for it.

Originally posted by janaki ...there's one recurring keyboard bit that sounds a bit too much like "Enjoy the Silence" for my taste.does anyone else hear this as well...?

Hell yes. At 1 minute 48 seconds.

For me Here To Stay is the best NO single since Regret - a truly uplifting chorus and great electronic hooks. The Felix Da Housecat mix is good enough to be released as a seven inch edit - this mix really enhances the track with extra synth melodies.

Hooky looked possesed ! Was that a plectrum or an 'E' in his gob when hitting the pads. Grrrr !!! :D

I thought he looked demented!

I like it pretty well, even though thanks to Barn's ennunciating I thought the line about "leap of faith" was "leaper faith" or perhaps "leper faith" the first few times I heard it. Excellant tune, coulda been on Technique the way it sounds...

Originally posted by Gnu Odor > Originally posted by janaki> ...there's one recurring keyboard bit that sounds a bit too much like "Enjoy the Silence" for my taste.> > does anyone else hear this as well...?

Hell yes. At 1 minute 48 seconds.

thank you. so i'm not totally insane.

...not for that reason, anyway. ;)

Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey I thought he looked demented!

that's because he DID! when he didn't look like he was going to have a heart attack and collapse, that was! that one particular shot of him when he was banging away on the electronic drum kit with that fierce growly look on his face...i really thought there was going to be foam flying out of his mouth next!

as for Barney, the hopping was quite amusing. but boy, he really can't lip-synch, can he? John Simm in the video background was doing a better job matching up.

and Stephen looked...annoyed. definitely annoyed. i guess i might be, too. wouldn't want to mime, certainly.

...and, was still strange to see no Gillian...

Originally posted by janaki there's one recurring keyboard bit that sounds a bit too much like "Enjoy the Silence" for my taste.does anyone else hear this as well...?

I don't know my nu-metal bands very well, but is it "Toxicity" by System of a Down that sounds just like "Enjoy the Silence?" (The verses anyway.)

The first time I heard it I thought it was a cover version. Next time it comes on the radio, rather than leap for the power button, sing "Enjoy the Silence."

Originally posted by Gnu Odor I don't know my nu-metal bands very well, but is it "Toxicity" by System of a Down that sounds just like "Enjoy the Silence?" (The verses anyway.)The first time I heard it I thought it was a cover version. Next time it comes on the radio, rather than leap for the power button, sing "Enjoy the Silence."

er...fooked if i know? i don't know anything about nu-metal bands, either. so i couldn't help you there. but i'll bear it in mind, if i happen to be stuck somewhere with someone with the bloody radio blasting and i hear something that sounds like that...yeah.

(sorta) speaking of bad quasi-covers, i heard the single most POINTLESS remix of something i've heard in ages the other day.

it was textbook bad trance...Optical doing a remix of Orgy's cover of "Blue Monday." was the most generic thing i've ever heard.

i have nothing but respect for people who do GOOD remixes, but yeesh. disgusting. and why would you remix that load of shite in the first place...?

I like it. I didn't think I would at first, thinking it was just a barrage of boring synthy sounds, but after a few listens it has really grown on me and I think it's better than any one song on Get Ready. The vocal melody, especially the 'like bright light etc' chorus, is beautiful, and the guitar, bass, and synth parts work great with it and each other. I think Hooky's bass playing is at his soulful best throughout. Not everything NO's done does something for me, but this one does. Gush, gush, gush.

Plus, the video whets my appetite for the movie, and it's surreal fun to watch a fake Barney in the Joy Division, pre-singing-Barney setting 22+ years ago 'singing' a new New Order song!

I'm referring to "Here to Stay" above, not the awful (offal?) Orgy remix!! In case there's any confusion