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tarbox's thread gave me this idea. mine is definitely touching from a distance; you can't get a better perspective of ian's life than deborah's.

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From Joy Division To New Order:A Factory Story.

by Mick Middles.

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An Ideal for Living & Touching from a Distance.

Btw, has anyone read House of Dolls?(a book Ian always talked about). In No Love Lost he uses a paragraph from that book.

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AgentWood wrote: tarbox's thread gave me this idea. mine is definitely touching from a distance; you can't get a better perspective of ian's life than deborah's.

Even though she was patently out of touch with almost all of his work and his friendships once the band formed?!

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oldmonkey wrote:

AgentWood wrote: tarbox's thread gave me this idea. mine is definitely touching from a distance; you can't get a better perspective of ian's life than deborah's.

Even though she was patently out of touch with almost all of his work and his friendships once the band formed?!

true, but learning about his personal life and how he treated his family is fascinating.

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Without doubt "Dreams Never End" by Claude Flowers. Superb

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marcus mee wrote: Without doubt "Dreams Never End" by Claude Flowers. Superb

never seen that one.

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touching from a distance.....i've only read a little from it here and there....

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An Ideal for Living Pleasures and Wayward Distractions

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NOOLigan wrote: An Ideal for Living Pleasures and Wayward Distractions

same here. I thought the Mick Middles one was a bit basic. Not read Mrs Curtis' tome.

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Torn Apart plus I'm mentioned in it, give me a friggin' medal.

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touching from a distance

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: touching from a distance

informative, but imo not a great read.

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Touching from a distance...

very emotional, a little bit biased, but great.

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Either Touching From a Distance or From Joy Division to New Order.

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I'd say all of them have their virtues.

Touching...is a very personal story as you might expect and it's easy to see why Control is being based upon it. I don't feel, however, that Debbie understood his/their music greatly though but that's just a personal view.

Torn Apart is excellent and more of a balanced read than From JD to NO. I still regard Brian Edge's Pleasures and Wayward Distractions as a definitive JD work especially. I'm selling my copy on Amazon Marketplace (details in the buy and sell forum here if you're interested). It's long out-of-print but is a superb work.

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steveone wrote: From Joy Division To New Order:A Factory Story.

by Mick Middles.

Yep, my favourite an all :thumb:

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steveone wrote: From Joy Division To New Order:A Factory Story.

by Mick Middles.

Yep, that's mine too... :tumb:

Snorri xxx

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Worst (or just weirdest?) is An Ideal For Living by Mark Johnson...

Snorri xxx

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An ideal for living was the fisrt i bought in early eighties . I even used to read it at work . It's well written . Touched from a distance is different. it's much more personal . Not really a book about the band, but the story of a young man , who died too soon .A kind of drama.

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I have the hardback (signed by the author) limited edition of "Ideal for Living". However, I would go for "Pleasues and Wayward Distractions" as my favourite book on the band.

I also have a battered old copy of "House of Dolls" in my collection. Obviously not about the band but nice to have as the inspiration for the bands original name. The book is quite heavy going - so you have to be in the mood to read this. Sits on my bookshelves next to J.G Ballard's "Crash", "The Outsider" by Albert Camus and "Steppenwolf" by Hermann Hesse (all favourites of Ian's I believe).

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An Ideal for Living is good - thanks to Mr Tate (the one who posted above me). Pleasures and Wayward Distractions is also good, as is From Joy Division to New Order. Good pictures.

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I'd have to say Dreams Never End by Claude Flowers. Since this book was written pre internet, I've often wondered whether Mr. Flowers is a Nooler or if he frequents the other site. I say this because he was obviously a fan of the band...

Middles book was interesting but hard to read at times - didn't care for his style much. Deborah Curtis book is haunting and interesting but like others have said, sheds little on the band itself.

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