New Order SPLIT TEENAGE GROUPIE :food:
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Let's say they do, are you:
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Crushed 25 (25%)
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Upset 29 (29%)
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Annoyed 15 (15%)
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Indifferent 11 (11%)
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Relieved 5 (5%)
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Overjoyed 1 (1%)
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Something else? 15 (15%)
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For me personally, it'd be a huge loss...i know its going to happen at some point, but its going be a very depressing day. Its just the kind of thing you never want to see actually happen.
I'll be annoyed....
but I would think Jarvo and some of the more 'ardcore would be overjoyed...with all the money they'll be saving, they can retire in a year or two!!!
Well, I would miss the gigs, of course, but most of all would miss the social that accompanies the gigs.
I'd be a bit sad knowing that they might not go back into the studio, but i wouldn't mind that much because of all the stuff they've done already. Add to that the possibility of reissues (maybe with some live stuff, demos etc. added on).
Still, I'd be mighty pissed at having never seen them live
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I think i'd rather have them call it a day than carry on and tarnish what they've done. The only thing i'd change is the 8 year hiatus,it was just too long,why did it take 3 years after the Olympia gig/Reading to get an album out?
then another 4 before the next one,even they must think they've wasted what could've been a golden period. They could've had at least another two albums under thier belts and called it a day now.
It would be nice if they could release just one more start to finsh amazing album. (a la Technique, P,C&L or Low-life).
There's just a couple too many average tracks on the last 2 albums, namely...
I told you so Dracula's castle Jetstream Guilt is a usless emotion (the worst No track ever). Vicious Streak Primitive Notion
But hey what do I know... I like Rock the Shack (stupid lyrics, catchy tune though)...
When the who split in 1982 I was really pissed off as I had just got into them. But I have spent the intervening 24 years listening, listening and listening again. Not to mention collecting the never ending re-issues, compilations, live releases etc etc. Imagine my joy last month when they finally released a new album. Anyway its a fact of life - bands split up, but then they get back together. Joy Division will do it soon (get back together again), and so will New Order (split up). Heres to waiting..........
I got a premonition today that I'd get some bad news when I turned on my computer, and what do I see? The title of this thread, heh. But anyway, I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that they're finished, and I'm gutted. I know all things have to come to an end, but couldn't they have waited until I'd seen them live? And couldn't I have known about the Virgin Megastore signing beforehand??
Papa Bendi wrote:
Still, I'd be mighty pissed at having never seen them live
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Same!
Of course it will be a bit sad when they decide to stop for good, if they haven't already done so since that interview with Hooky and Steve, but then again, let's be philosophical shall we?
In the words of the immortal Mac the Mouth - "NOTHING LASTS FOREVER"!
I mean, 30 bloody years is pretty good going isn't it?
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I would be crushed,because I want to do a full tour before they do.
When they do,I'll still see you lot regardless,liking the odd drink that I do...![]()
i would be upset; however i'd understand. i don't really want NO to release albums when they're in their 60s. their back catalogue is enough to keep me happy.
I picked upset, though I have trouble deciding between that and feeling crushed. I wish I could see them live. Sadly, it's a case of getting into NO a bit too late or the fact that I was just too young. I know that I'm legal enough to see them in England, but not in the US.
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: I know that I'm legal enough to see them in England, but not in the US.
If they had played any 21+ venues in the U.S. within the last 15 years, that might be a proper excuse. ![]()
They won't QUIT, they will taper off and have another "Break", this time when they are closer to 60, you know enough is enough...
I will be sad that I didn't have the chance to see them more (I drove 500 miles each way to see them in '05), but they produced a quarter century of great music, isn't that enough for anyone?
I'd say annoyed, because really we've had a nice run. But the curiosity of how they would continue to evolve would be there.
Pity party, for sure.
I picked crushed...not with any malice of course...so be it...I still find them in heavy rotation daily...I prefer to dream about them working on new material as long as they wander this spec of dust...so back to my dreams...the soundtrack...changing the air in the room instantly to magic for the rest of my days....add to the soundtrack as long as you can...
everyone, all together now...hum along...
O fuckit....shut up with all this shit...what the fuck? Postulating pessimistic crap...
opps had a moment there...strike that, reverse it. rockon....cheers to all
Pissed, mainly because every grouping of concerts they have something happens where I have no possible way of seeing them......and dammit, I want to see them live at least once!:angry2:
His Holiness, The Pope wrote:
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: I know that I'm legal enough to see them in England, but not in the US.
If they had played any 21+ venues in the U.S. within the last 15 years, that might be a proper excuse.
quit picking on her...
you big bully!!!
if someone with a crystal ball would have told me even 10 years ago that they would be still be around in 2006,i would not have believed them.so whats new about this gossip really?.i am sure there is more to come in terms of live gigs ![]()
Yep. I reckon they'll never say die, although the may exchange the odd lingering glance with the grim reaper of musicdom.
It's good to see that they still have so much solid support to carry on. I think they should fuck the record label, go indie and do virtual releases only.
I'd be upset and annoyed. This, after all, is the band that (a) kept me sane all through my college years and (b) indirectly led me to most of what I listen to now. Let's hope it doesn't happen for a wee while yet, eh?
If they have stopped, its the right time.
If they havent, then there needs to be some serious pulling fingers out of arses otherwise they will turn into Echo and the Bunnymen, playing afternoon slots on small stages at festivals.
To be honest I'll believe it when I see it. Of course they are no longer a major draw and album sales have been low BUT if there was ever going to be an opportunity to cash in and fill the coffers for retirement it's going to be pleasing the Goff kids in the US of A immediately after the Corbijn film is released and God forbid that means a JD tour. I'd hate to see it but even if they don't give it serious consideration then surely the money men will?
When they do go, good luck to 'em.
Bass cabs: So long and thanks for all the fish
Never going to happen....Barney is going to new a new boat and Steve is going to need a new tank
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There is the 20 Indian casino circuit in the "States" boys and a pile of money waiting along the route...as Larry The Cable Guy demonstrates, you don't need the "majors" to get your career along.
..and face it, New Order is their job and hopefully pays the bills...
...They will make a nice lounge act...5000 attendants x 30 dollars a head = $150,000 and you guys can make it twice a week!!
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James Thomas wrote: To be honest I'll believe it when I see it. Of course they are no longer a major draw and album sales have been low BUT if there was ever going to be an opportunity to cash in and fill the coffers for retirement it's going to be pleasing the Goff kids in the US of A immediately after the Corbijn film is released and God forbid that means a JD tour. I'd hate to see it but even if they don't give it serious consideration then surely the money men will?
When they do go, good luck to 'em.
Bass cabs: So long and thanks for all the fish
I know it's unpopular, but WTF, bring it on! A JD tour!
If it's no tours verses a JD albeit-cash-in tour, who cares?
apart from us lot who'd be jolly happy and who knows, maybe Hooky and Steve were hinting at this with tongue firmly in cheek when saying that NO tours are on indefinite hiatus?
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Yes, yes, I'm over analysing again...
I'm indifferent, but also aware that more gigs= more likelihood of continued recording output (and vice versa), so BRING IT ON!
Craig W wrote: I know it's unpopular, but WTF, bring it on! A JD tour!
If it's no tours verses a JD albeit-cash-in tour, who cares?
*sigh* Another day, another new Craig W thread to pick to pieces.
Point #1, you've said numerous times that you're only interested in recorded output, apparently you don't care about gigs so why are you even bothered?
Point #2, Who cares? Probably a set of NOJD fans (in most likelyhood the majority) who wouldn't want to see the relatively intact NOJD legacy pissed up the wall in a crass, moneymaking way. Anything they attempted to do regarding 'bringing back Joy Division' would be a critically ill-received disaster. You do know Ian's dead right?
You really don't care how much the band lower themselves or soil their reputation do you? Just so long as you get more recorded output. I'd rather they gave up now than compromise what made them cool in the first place I.e. doing precisely what they want.
maybe Hooky and Steve were hinting at this with tongue firmly in cheek when saying that NO tours are on indefinite hiatus?
You really do pluck any old shite out of thin air don't you? Is there not alot to do in NZ or something? Or are you simply stoned in charge of a keyboard most of the time?
Yes, yes, I'm talking bollocks again...
Quite.
It won't last!
Not the Band, but the split! Even if they do, it will only be a matter of time before they are back again... They are too big to quit forever. All the big bands break up several times, but in the end reform for big gigs and when the money is tight. NO should be thinking about Legacy, its what makes it all worth while, pack it in for a bit if you like, but don't write off reforming in a year or two.
If i'm wrong and they did, I'd just lose respect for them. They owe it to their fans to keep it up, even if its a few gigs per year. History will record if they are quitters or a band with a true faith in themselves.
(Did you see what I did there ;-) )
Besides, they'll need some penny's to keep the Pernods coming!
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Dannyboy wrote: It won't last!
Not the Band, but the split! Even if they do, it will only be a matter of time before they are back again... They are too big to quit forever. All the big bands break up several times, but in the end reform for big gigs and when the money is tight. NO should be thinking about Legacy, its what makes it all worth while, pack it in for a bit if you like, but don't write off reforming in a year or two.
If i'm wrong and they did, I'd just lose respect for them. They owe it to their fans to keep it up, even if its a few gigs per year. History will record if they are quitters or a band with a true faith in themselves.
(Did you see what I did there ;-) )
Besides, they'll need some penny's to keep the Pernods coming!
the Beatles split and never got back together again, so did loads of other bands.
i don't get this business of bands owing their fans. if anything it is the other way round.
new order have only ever done things to suit themselves.
i for one wish they keep going for a while longer especially since they seemed to enjoy playing live and had one of their most productive recording periods as well.
Yeah, it's my first time in the NO forum, I just joined tonight and I'm eighteen and since having owned 'Blue Monday 88'on a rock compilation cd, I've been addicted to it, my neighbours are probably homicidal since I play it more than twice a day, very loud of course! So I decided to purchase their 'Singles' album release earlier this year, took me a while to like most of them but now they're my second ever favourite band, most of my pals think I'm odd to listen to such an "old" band but their music relates to my life and emotions day to day and also kicks butt, I mean these lads invented meaningful dance music and electronic dance in general! Anyways, point is I love them, I own four of their albums and have listed on my goals in life to see them live, it would mean soooo much. Also hope they'll conquer the charts one more time with a huge number 1# like BM...
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when order came of stage at reading in 93 i thought thats it ,,,with all the rumours of fall outs 93 had a feel of contractual obligation about it ,,so i wasnt surprised they gave it up for a while,, neither was i surprised when they came back,,,stronger than ever ,,,seeing them live this year,,, well thats not a band thats calling it quits and they still have great songs in them,, it just takes forever for them to get em out ..
playing as j.d... the manc concert was all j.d wasnt it???
as someone said,,,even new order dont know what there going to do next.... .
hello ,goodbye to your soul.
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when order came of stage at reading in 93 i thought thats it ,,,with all the rumours of fall outs 93 had a feel of contractual obligation about it ,,so i wasnt surprised they gave it up for a while,, neither was i surprised when they came back,,,stronger than ever ,,,seeing them live this year,,, well thats not a band thats calling it quits and they still have great songs in them,, it just takes forever for them to get em out ..
playing as j.d... the manc concert was all j.d wasnt it???
as someone said,,,even new order dont know what there going to do next.... .
hello ,goodbye to your soul.
Papa Bendi wrote: I'd be a bit sad knowing that they might not go back into the studio, but i wouldn't mind that much because of all the stuff they've done already. Add to that the possibility of reissues (maybe with some live stuff, demos etc. added on).
Still, I'd be mighty pissed at having never seen them live
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I've been a fan since a long time, but still I was too young to hang around in clubs when they came in my city, and now I won't ever have the pleasure to see them live, so I know how do you feel
Fan since '82 but you grow up.....still love their music but it's just music at the end of the day. Not that important in the big scheme of things. Not sure i'd like to see them playing in their 60s, kind of cringeworthy and not representative of the Order I cherish from my youth. I will even confess to having a bit of a moment at Hyde Park last year when I had a dawning realisation that I was no longer a teenager,and that 1984 was so long ago....But they mean different things to different people and that's cool. What is important for them is what they want to do as individuals.
Mr. S wrote: Yeah, it's my first time in the NO forum, I just joined tonight and I'm eighteen and since having owned 'Blue Monday 88'on a rock compilation cd, I've been addicted to it, my neighbours are probably homicidal since I play it more than twice a day, very loud of course! So I decided to purchase their 'Singles' album release earlier this year, took me a while to like most of them but now they're my second ever favourite band, most of my pals think I'm odd to listen to such an "old" band but their music relates to my life and emotions day to day and also kicks butt, I mean these lads invented meaningful dance music and electronic dance in general! Anyways, point is I love them, I own four of their albums and have listed on my goals in life to see them live, it would mean soooo much. Also hope they'll conquer the charts one more time with a huge number 1# like BM...
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