Hacienda Exhibition - Help Required!

To celebrate the 25th anniversary of the launch of the Hacienda, and to coincide with the Manchester International Festival, Urbis are planning a major Hacienda exhibition.

Although they are at the early planning stages, Urbis want to get a feel for available material that may be out there. Does anyone have any footage or artefacts that could be used in the exhibition?

All things Hacienda, including things such as the whereabouts of fittings such as the old bar, furniture, even the toilets as required, as well as they have any personal ephemera from the Hacienda days that could feature in the exhibition?

Urbis haven’t settled on a narrative, chronological or thematic path through what is turning out to be a wealth of material as yet, so really anything that relates to the club is welcomed. One train of thought is to set the story of the club in context of current events of the day as well as exploring how the influence of the club evolved after closure – although this is a fairly broad brief – they really want to get a feel for what is out there before settling on a definite structure.

So basically any ideas, stories, artifacts, photos, scars are welcome.

Photos of unusual factory stuff in-situ could be an interesting side project too – it might be revealing to see the journeys different memorabilia took over the years.

Does anyone remember the fanzines that were handed out in the queue during the early acid house days? Anyone know where there's scans of them? Orignials? Who made them? Who handed them out? Did any of you work there?

And where is the most famous artifact of all - Tony Wilson's photo that hung behind the main desk and made me jump each time I saw it?

A special email address has been set up if you want to write to Urbis direct: hacienda@urbis.org.uk.

Feel free to post ideas and memories here, and please don't spam this thread, kids!

Can someone pin this to the top?

Cheers!

Ahh, that's nice. As I posted this thread, look what random picture came up:

Can someone pin this to the top for a couple of weeks? Cheers.

There's that footage of the Order playing the Hac...Whistle Test.

it's all been sold on ebay.

Has Bobby Langley got rid of the DJ booth yet?

The Tony Wilson photo you are talking about can also be found in the New Order tour program (the one with patti on the cover). I think his photo is on the back inner cover. It's the same one that was in the entrance to the Hac.

N.

I've got 2 unsigned (unused) grey membership cards somewhere,bought them from eBay years ago.

What want is a decent list of old Hac tunes,the 2 compilations that have been out are in truth fuck all like what was played there. I've got loads of the old italian house 12"s in boxes,but the music was much more than that.

'Nude' was all american garage and hip hop with ACR and electro thrown in.

I've got the North 12"s.

Aceeeed!

FAC 51 5th Birthday flyer, like the one on page 121 of FAC 461 but complete and in better nick.

Were the toilets by Saville Stainless? Any relation to Peter (I have read that it's his family's firm).

You come across them all over the country - very distinctive and have a little badge with the name and the cleaning instructions.

Dunno what all the fuss is about the Hacienda, it was just a club and not a very good one from my recolection.

So that's settled. The Hacienda was no good and everyone who remembers it as the best night out ever is wrong?

Glad we've cleared that up.

You miserable git

Digi Mike Binoche wrote: Dunno what all the fuss is about the Hacienda, it was just a club and not a very good one from my recolection.

I have to disagree, I've been to loads of rave/dance clubs in my time, and the Hacienda always had a certain edge over the others.

Your drugs were obviously not strong enough

Digi Mike Binoche wrote: Dunno what all the fuss is about the Hacienda, it was just a club and not a very good one from my recolection.

Mike it was not just a not very good club, it was also a shite gig venue.

Someone at URBIS e-mailed me ages ago about me sending them some photos for a HAC gallery.Never heard from them again. Offer still stands,I've got some close-up photos of the Order on their Low-Life gig,including a very intimately close photo of Gillian! Plus I've got pictures of Thomas Dolby,and Cabaret Voltaire playing there. I'll get them scanned,and I might finally post them on here!

Maybe it wasn't brilliant for acoustics and the stage was in the wrong place, but it was very impressive and I loved it. Had some great nights out there, liked that you could spend all night walking downstairs, upstairs, along the balcony and the food was good - which is rare for a club - amazing hot choc too!

Didn't enjoy walking into the bollards when drunk though!

I'm looking forward to a Hacienda exhibition at Urbis. If anyone is involved in this keep us posted about when it's going to be on as it should be a good one! Cheers!

Hi All, It's taken me a while to get on here but here goes... I'm putting together the exhibition at Urbis and will be sure to keep the forum up to date with what's going on. Big thanks to everyone who has already replied.

We're looking for a late June/early July launch with a number of teaser events filling in the gaps - including the possibility of a special night to commemorate the actual opening in May...more later.

Monty - apologies for no-one getting back in touch with you but I'd definitely be interested in seeing all of your photos - could you mail me some to hacienda@urbis.org.uk ?

If anyone has anything they think could be used in the exhibition - from official mercendise to the fliers handed out in the queue to personal snapshots - I'm interested. It would really help if you could drop me a line (with photos of your goodies if possible)at hacienda@urbis.org.uk so I can keep up to date with everything in one place.

I'll post more soon. Andy

there's a bit footage of a few bands inc the Order at the Hac doing the rounds. perhaps that could be included.

You'd better contact some of the UK posters here for that, or even better they could contact you.

NOOLigan wrote:

You'd better contact some of the UK posters here for that, or even better they could contact you.

Any takers? Andy

I've got a couple of Hacienda flyers (Christmas '88), Northside (plus 808 DJ's aka Spinmasters and Paris Angels), plus something from the 1990 US 'tour' (Mondays, 808, etc). Probaly got a whole load more (whilst collecting stuff on 808/Gerald/etc, so more non-808 related Hacienda flyers somewhere in my room)! :)

These are the ones in question (I can get better scans, but am currently in Telford away from my scanner until Thursay/Friday):

ive got the official first birthday poster knockin about somewhere,along with fac51 pin badges and paper match books,also got membership cards ect and the first birthday invite along with various other shite. as for the hac being shite? was it fuck.

Nick - Posters look great - more scans always good for my planning, Thanks!

Mike - could you send me a list of your collection to hacienda@urbis.org.uk?

Thanks, Andy

Urbis wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

You'd better contact some of the UK posters here for that, or even better they could contact you.

Any takers? Andy

The official Factory video 'A Factory Outing' has the following live performances, all filmed at the Hac:

NEW ORDER - Your Silent Face JAMES - Stutter STOCKHOLM MONSTERS - Life's Two Faces 52nd STREET - The Rapp A CERTAIN RATIO - Back to the Start A CERTAIN RATIO - Showcase SWAMP CHILDREN - You've Got Me Beat DURUTTI COLUMN - The Beggar
THE WAKE - Uniform SECTION 25 - Warhead QUANDO QUANGO - Go Exciting

Also included are two clips that are potentially of more interest - one is footage of the inital building work (set to Video586 by New Order) and the other is a clip of the various non-Factory bands that played there and some regular club night footage from 80's, before it got famous and all the girls had enormous hair and ra-ra skirts (set to Cool As Ice by 52nd Street).

I can let you have a DVD if you think it's of any use.

Old Blue wrote:

I can let you have a DVD if you think it's of any use.

Thanks Blue - It will definitely be of use. Can you mail me your contact details? hacienda@urbis.org.uk

Random memory: a guy running around like a chicken at Flesh. His back appeared to be covered in brightly-coloured feathers. On closer inspection, he'd stuck the fingers from about a hundred pairs of marigolds onto the back of a waistcoat. It looked fantastic!

I have to ask... Does anyone know the chicken guy?

I did speak to him about his jacket. He was a gay man, a bit older than me with a bald head. He looked a bit like this:

I hope you're not suggesting that Rocket should be in a museum

We own the actual Haçienda amp rack, DJ Mixers & Turntables. Its still installed & in use at TOKYO PROJECT in Oldham (www.TOKYOPROJECT.com). We also own a heap of other Haç items: the Golden Scans lights from the main Dancefloor (currently for sale if anyone wants them!! Big though!), TerrorStrobes, Framed Posters (from the dressing rooms downstairs) toilet signage, DJ Box Signage (No Coats Here!), Cloakroom Signage (No Fur Coats) and a couple of Dancefloor bollards signed by Hooky, Wilson & Shaun Ryder.

Haç Amplification Rack Photos

PETER HOOK (NewOrder DJ Set) FRI 16 FEB 2007 at TOKYO PROJECT - Oldham http://www.tokyoproject.com

Tokyo Project - excellent news! Could you drop me a line at hacienda@urbis.co.uk? Thanks, Andy

Hiya Andy.Not forgotten you,just finding the time to get these photos scanned in,I'll e-mail them to you.

strangly enough, was talking to hooky last week in rehearsal, and he said after rob died, him and a freind went through the offices at the hac and found master tapes of factory releases in a SKIP!!!!!. what was colected was then passed on to the museum in manchester, so they have everything that hasn't been ebay'd. good luck with the exibition, ttfn kehoe x

i also have the origional cloackroom sign, given to me by hooky. kehoe x

What's going on then?

Nowt on the Urbis website about the Hac Hexibition.

I will probably go down on Saturday though, to see THIS!!!

News

Later this year Urbis hosts its own Hacienda retrospective from July 19 with many rare, unique and previously unseen items on show, including unaired video footage.

Perhaps time for an update,

The Hacienda Exhibition will be open to the public on the 19th July 2007. Without wanting to give too much away we'll be drawing together the best from the collections of Peter Hook, Tony Wilson, Rob Greton and Ben Kelly amongst many others.

We've been granted our very own FAC number for the exhibition by Mr Wilson - FAC 491 - and will be staging Hacienda related events throughout the rest of 2007.

While we're waiting on final permissions I can't say too much but I can assure you there are going to be some really exciting unique, rare and even new Hacienda items in the show.

More info soon...

I've just been having a clear out and found the paperwork that was attached to a white label copy of 'Squirrel and G Man etc' by Happy Mondays.

I bought it for £4 c.1989 in Southampton and was told it was the NME review copy. Its got a letter from Factory with tracklisting, and amusingly typed lyrics sheets with lots of corrected typos.

Its also got Desmonds on it, of course.

Sorry if this is a bit late, but would this be of any interest?

Right, I'm hajacking this thread.

Who's up for a Manchester Order Big Day Out to Urbis?

Will have to be a weekend, of course. What about the first Saturday it opens? Give it large in the pub around the corner then descend on Urbis to see what it's all about.

Last time I went it was FULL of goths. They all hang around outside and drink cider.

Then we can all go to my mate's night's forteenth birthday party!

Come on, who's in?

Or should that be "COME ON, OOOS 'AVIN IT???"

It's a date Col! I'll be the one holding a copy of the Evening News and I'll be wearing a carnation.

If you're thinking of descending en masse perhaps this would be an interesting weekend:

Urbis Beach

We're still waiting on planning permission but should hear soon.

Ha ha! Yeah I saw that in the Evening News.Gonna be interested when it pisses it down too. Visions of skater bois coasting along,and going arse over tit when they reach the sand.Whey-hey!!

Back to the exhibition,shame that the Hooky set isn't on a day later.How's about a meet-up at Sinclairs for an alfresco pint??

MONTY DOES DALLAS wrote: Ha ha! Yeah I saw that in the Evening News.Gonna be interested when it pisses it down too. Visions of skater bois coasting along,and going arse over tit when they reach the sand.Whey-hey!!

Back to the exhibition,shame that the Hooky set isn't on a day later.How's about a meet-up at Sinclairs for an alfresco pint??

Goths hate sunlight.

ive more chance of doing this piss up,opps i mean cultural experience,on 21st than going hooky the night before.so i'd be up for saturday july 21st walking on the beaches looking at the peaches

BIGINOIL wrote: Right, I'm hajacking this thread.

Who's up for a Manchester Order Big Day Out to Urbis?

Will have to be a weekend, of course. What about the first Saturday it opens? Give it large in the pub around the corner then descend on Urbis to see what it's all about.

Last time I went it was FULL of goths. They all hang around outside and drink cider.

Then we can all go to my mate's night's forteenth birthday party!

Come on, who's in?

Or should that be "COME ON, OOOS 'AVIN IT???"

www.fac51thehacienda.com / www.myspace.com/fac51thehacienda

Paul fletcher wrote: www.fac51thehacienda.com / www.myspace.com/fac51thehacienda

What's that then?

Urbis wrote: If you're thinking of descending en masse perhaps this would be an interesting weekend:

Urbis Beach

We're still waiting on planning permission but should hear soon.

ugh... world's largest litter box.

how are you going to stop scallies and assholes from pissing in the sand/dying their fags out/ etc?

sounds groce to me!

In fact, this would fit right in with the ethos (I think) behind the current Urbis exhibition called Play.

Play is all about the way people use the urban space to enjoy and express themselves. So all sorts of examples of how people change the way a city looks from the predictable medium of grafitti to more surprising methods like the group who go around planting trees and plants in the middle of cities (carrying out their work in the dead of night in case they get caught and put in prison!) Visitors are encouraged to become part of the exhibition by writing on sticky tabs and placing them on the works, some real giggles from some of the things people had written.

My favourite bit was a game that was set up where visitors are supposed to try to throw plastic balls off a balcony at the top of the building towards targets made from satellite dishes down on the ground floor. Of course, any rough types who've only come in to get warm for a bit take great delight in pelting the middle-class folk who are taking it all seriously on the floors below. The peltees are visibly rattled, and it gave that whole end of the building an air of tension. The Urbis staff don't do a thing about it, just collect balls to re-stock the balcony from time to time. The balls were large and soft and being thrown from a long way away. They would never actually hurt anyone, even with a direct hit to the eye socket. But it's hard to be cool when there's a dozen or so teenagers pelting you with things, however soft they are (the teenagers or the balls).

Once you get to the top, it's really quite good fun to become one of the bad lads and fling a few balls down at people. And that's when you realise how harmless it all is. Back on the floor from the balcony, it's still fun. The balls aren't as intimidating, you can try to volley or head them at other people and chuck a couple back up to the balcony.

To me, it summarised one of the messages of the exhibition: that many of the things that the authorities try to stop, things which people do to relax, are in fact completely harmless. I probably missed the real point entirely, but there you go.

Link to a more grown-up explaination.

The beach is probably a continuation of that theme - put the sand there and see what people do. An interesting spin-off will the all the domestic discord that occurs when office people come home from a day at work and their partners find sand in their clothes and crevices!

It's nothing new, anyway. Piccadilly Radio held a beach party in Piccadilly Gardens in the 80s. It was ace, they gave away stickers and everything. I saw Steve Penk, that's how cool it was. In those days the Gardens were always full of punks drinking cider and glaring at people. 200 tonnes of sand soon sorted that out, I tell you.

I can write what I want here, nobody reads long posts anyway. Apart from the last line, to see whether the rest of it is worth reading.

And that, gentelmen, is how you get a girl to sleep with you.

Do I win £40?

now THAT made me laugh out loud. for quite a while. since i did, in fact, read the last line first...

that play exhibition sounds ace though. i want a go.

I took Littleinoil(4) there at the weekend. He loved it.

Play will be there until the Autumn. Well worth a trip up the stairs after viewing the Hac exhibition.