OT: Two-niiiiiil to the Arsenaaaal
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Yes... Lucky, lucky Arsenal.
Makes me wonder where you'd perceived the loyalties to lie, OB?
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Oh, Arsene Wenger's magic, He wears a magic hat,and when he saw the Double, He said: "I'm havin that..."(rpt)
What, you mean Freddie Stupidhair MEANT to beat four men and curl it into the top corner?
As you live thousands of miles away from your team and obviously don't go and and see them play, then you're a prime candidate for a Man Utd supporter (it's OK, I've slapped myself to save you the bother). To be honest, I didn't know you liked football at all. Must be the Elephant and Castle connection.
There seems to be a core of diehard support for Division One and Two teams on this forum which is great.
Obviously I can't profess to doing the really hardcore fan yards- travelling to some godforsaken Vauxhall Conference ground in the middle of winter to watch a forgettable 0-0 Cup draw, etc, but I have followed the Gooners closely for a good 16-odd years.. During the "boring, boring" years and beyond. I'm no bandwagonesque Utd supporter, for sure. *SLAP*
I arrived in the UK with three wishes: see the Order live, see the Arse live and to knob Cat Deeley. Two out of three ain't bad- Arsenal tickets are so hard to come by these days aren't they?
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Must confess, I'm an Ars'nal Member, but am not really a proper fan as such. They just happen to be my local team. Also lucky enough to get the odd free ticket from a work colleague whose Mrs never uses her season ticket for midweek games. I mean, would you turn down a Champions League game for free?!
Depthcharge - you're not missing much at Highbury though, mate. Faaar more atmosphere generated in the Shed at Perth Glory! ;)
As long as it shuts the knob head Ferguson up for a few weeks, i'll happily have Arsenal win everything in sight. Hear his latest foul mouthed rant about Veron?...superb
Didn't he stand up for Veron?
F'knows why, he's bottled it in United colours. Anyone can see that. Decent player, but ineffective this season.
Originally posted by El Jarvo Didn't he stand up for Veron? F'knows why, he's bottled it in United colours. Anyone can see that. Decent player, but ineffective this season.
yeah - he's rant about the press having a go at Veron. I think he probably doesnt like the weather - apparently Argie football's just as rough and tumble as over here
In full....
Reporter: "You said you felt there was a certain arrogance in the way Arsenal were saying they'd already won the title?"
Fergie: "I'm not getting involved in that because you just want a f***ing story as usual. I'm not getting involved in that. Your f***ing stuff is a disgrace to journalism and you are. The stuff you f***ing come out with...."
Reporter: "What?"
Fergie: "You're always going on about this club. Always."
Reporter: "It's our job to cover this club."
Fergie: "Och, you're a joke."
Reporter: "Name one story...."
Fergie: "Listen, you've been going on about f***ing Veron. You tell me what's wrong with Veron."
Reporter: "We're not the only ones."
Fergie: "You are, you're the worst."
Reporter: "Veron just hasn't played very well."
Fergie: "Well, I think he has. What's this thing about fights and all the rest of this s***?"
Reporter: "So we can't talk about individual players? Will Veron play on Wednesday?"
Fergie: "I've no picked the team yet."
Reporter: "What about allegations he had a bust-up, is not going to play again and is going home?"
Fergie: "That's been answered."
Reporter: "The fans would be interested in what you have to say."
Fergie: "It's absolute nonsense, you know it's nonsense. Absolute lies. I can't believe you write these things. Anyway, that's finished. On you go."
Reporter: "You wouldn't talk generally about Veron...."
Fergie: "On you go. I'm no f***ing talking to you. He's a f***ing great player. Yous are f****ing idiots."
Didn't realise he'd ranted to such a degree. I sit next to a committed Red and he was saying weeks back that Keane apparently had Veron 'up against a wall' at the training ground after the fcuk-up against 'Boro which led to their goal (and which, in truth, probs cost United any chance of the title). And that no one stepped in to stop it.
I mean, players are only human after all. Well, some of 'em. They're gonna have fall-outs as much as the next person. And, if the next person's Roy Keane, well .. . .
Originally posted by El Jarvo Must confess, I'm an Ars'nal Member, but am not really a proper fan as such. They just happen to be my local team. Also lucky enough to get the odd free ticket from a work colleague whose Mrs never uses her season ticket for midweek games. I mean, would you turn down a Champions League game for free?!Depthcharge - you're not missing much at Highbury though, mate. Faaar more atmosphere generated in the Shed at Perth Glory! ;)
Al, you'll be thrilled to know that this Sunday the Perth Glory host the NSL grand final at Subiaco Oval and all 45,000 tix sold out within two hours. They're a very firm bet to win their first ever championship. Hell, they're playing well enough to give Luton Town a decent game.
As for the Gunners, where were you with your free tickets to Highbury two years ago? Darn. Still, I managed to catch them in a Champions League match at Wembley. A victory too, something of a rarity.
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Depthy - Can I make you jealous?
I can see into the top tier of the North Bank at Highbury from my flat window and walk past the stadio at least twice a day.
Just thought I'd let U know....!
Originally posted by Mickey Way Depthy - Can I make you jealous?I can see into the top tier of the North Bank at Highbury from my flat window and walk past the stadio at least twice a day.Just thought I'd let U know....!
MW when are they building the new stadium and whats gonna happen to the old one?
I think they have one more season at Highbury (next season) before they move.
I presume they will build the new stadium during the last season at Highbury. Its only about 15-20 mins walk from the current one if that.
The old stadium will be turned into flats and the pitch will be a public green space. Part of Highbury is listed so the 2 old facades on the stands will remain and possibly form part of the property development.
Once they move, it won't do any harm to the value of our flat!!
Originally posted by liv_and_let_live MW when are they building the new stadium and whats gonna happen to the old one?
Earliest it can be expected is the 2004-5 season.
Then they can squeeze in another 20k people from Hertfordshire. And another 10k in corporate hospitality. Miaow.
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Originally posted by Mickey Way Depthy - Can I make you jealous?I can see into the top tier of the North Bank at Highbury from my flat window and walk past the stadio at least twice a day.Just thought I'd let U know....!
I have the priviledge (?) of walking past Chelsea's Stamford Bridge each day. In fact I saw Ken Bates stomping around the other day. The blokes a giant.
Originally posted by Seb Briggs > Originally posted by Mickey Way> Depthy - Can I make you jealous?> > I can see into the top tier of the North Bank at Highbury from my flat window and walk past the stadio at least twice a day.> > Just thought I'd let U know....!
I have the priviledge (?) of walking past Chelsea's Stamford Bridge each day. In fact I saw Ken Bates stomping around the other day. The blokes a giant.
Speaking of Chelsea...
I used to see Manu Petit's model girlfriend wandering around their Knightsbridge apartment in her G-string, from my workplace. Very tidy.
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Originally posted by depthcharge > Originally posted by Seb Briggs> > > > Originally posted by Mickey Way> > Depthy - Can I make you jealous?> > > > I can see into the top tier of the North Bank at Highbury from my flat window and walk past the stadio at least twice a day.> > > > Just thought I'd let U know....!>
I have the priviledge (?) of walking past Chelsea's Stamford Bridge each day. In fact I saw Ken Bates stomping around the other day. The blokes a giant.
Speaking of Chelsea...
I used to see Manu Petit's model girlfriend wandering around their Knightsbridge apartment in her G-string, from my workplace. Very tidy.
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Which was tidy, his apartment or his girlfriend?
Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by depthcharge> > > > Originally posted by Seb Briggs> > > > > > > Originally posted by Mickey Way> > > Depthy - Can I make you jealous?> > > > > > I can see into the top tier of the North Bank at Highbury from my flat window and walk past the stadio at least twice a day.> > > > > > Just thought I'd let U know....!> > >
I have the priviledge (?) of walking past Chelsea's Stamford Bridge each day. In fact I saw Ken Bates stomping around the other day. The blokes a giant.
Speaking of Chelsea...
I used to see Manu Petit's model girlfriend wandering around their Knightsbridge apartment in her G-string, from my workplace. Very tidy.
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Which was tidy, his apartment or his girlfriend?
My workplace, as I said. I'm a cleanliness freak.
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Congratulations to the Arse - winning the double is good, but to win it at Old Trafford must be even sweeter! Deserved champions, with their record this year they were bound to win it (19 away games...14 wins, 5 draws - some going that!) and to score in every game is no mean achievement;)
Battle Of Britain on Monday night then guys
does anyone know if it's on TV?
By the way, where are the Utd supporters on this board? A board devoted to Manc's finest band- there's gotta be some Utd suporters out there... Show thy faces!
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Oh, Arsene Wenger's magic, He wears a magic hat,and when he saw the Double, He said: "I'm havin that..."(rpt)
Wouldn't go as far as saying I was a supporter Depthy - I would never go and pay to watch em play (unless it was against Celtic of course;) ) but they are my team in England, when they play to their best, no-one can touch em!
But unlike proper supporters - if they get beat, it doesn't really bother me - I join in, and wind up their fans
Ah but don't forget that Man Ure ARE the best team in the Premiership, and Europe.
Well, only if you live on Planet Ferguson.
Gary Lineker came out with some stat last night that Arse are the first team since eighteen-hundred-and-something to go all season unbeaten away from home.
According to Lee Dixon, though, Arsenal's success is all down to our fellow Antipodean on-liner :
"It's brilliant to be a part of this squad - it's the best I've played with, with Depth in every position."
Dont think even Fergie can claim they're the best in the country after last nigths shocker. Outclassed from start to finish. Utd are currently a bunch of losers and their attempts to maim half the Arsenal team proved they knew they were playing against a superior team. Well done the Gooners. 
Think Arsenal have had players performing out of their skins for the latter half of the season, hence the shift in fortunes. Ljunberg has excelled himself and the likes of Campbell and Edu have come on leaps and bounds. Man for Man I'd still say United are a stronger side, but have simply under-performed here, and in Europe. Increasingly they're starting to look like a one man team (Keane) and Fergie's tactics have to be called into question - especially trying to (mis)fit Veron into what was previously the country's strongest midfield. Sack Fergie anyone?
This season has been one monumental Fergie fuck-up from start to finish. Effectively sacking Stam, and replacing him with an ex-good sweeper in Blanc rather than a bona-fide central defender was a mistake in itself, as was the purchase of Veron. While Veron may be one of the best central midfielders in the world, he isn't one of the best available to ManUre in the systems they play, and wouldn't get in ahead of Giggs, Beckham, Keane or Scholes. Fergie's lost it, seeming to want to perpetuate petty feuds rather than put a team out to maintain the dominance they had. Some of their performances this season have been awesome, some of them pretty sloppy. Barthez doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence, particularly in Wes Brown who seems to hate playing in front of him.
Where does he go from here ? Get half a new side, or go himself ? Having taken a new three-year contract, it would seem that new players would be the chosen route. Cash in on Barthez after the World Cup, likewise Veron, and pick up two central defenders and a proper keeper. Then again, wouldn't it be nice to see them screw up again ?!
Think it's showed how important Beckham is to the team as well. I think a lot of it is Fergie's fault - It's been obvious especially in the last couple of weeks that Wenger seems to have far more respect of his own players and the press than Fergie. You couldn't imagine Wenger letting Keane have any number of outbursts against his own team mates. Fergie's tried to play his crappy mind games, and lost emphatically.
Didn't Wenger let Vieira get away with a similar outburst at the start of the season? Which perpetuated rumours of him being off to ManYoo or Real Madrid? These things come in swings and roundabouts anyways. Next year will probably be Fergie's year, and Wenger will be chasing second, with the press on his back instead. Such is life. At the end of the day, there's little to choose between them. Least we've had a decent Premiership this year. And let's not forget, it's likely to the be the Scousers that come second too. . .
Vieira or Keane? Bergkamp or Veron? Pires or Giggs? Seaman or Barthez? Henry or Van Nistelroy? Campbell or Blanc?
Etc.
It's debatable who has the best team on paper, but the Arse were the superior onfield combination. A key difference saw the gritty workhorses like Keown, Parlour, Grimandi, etc able to grind out results while the unbalanced Utd line-up faltered.
It'll be interesting to see who Arsenal will target in the off-season, they were robbed of their optimum line-up for most of this season, IMHO. They must do everything to retain Vieira however.
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"I'd rather play in front of a full house than an empty crowd." Johnny Giles
Originally posted by El Jarvo Didn't Wenger let Vieira get away with a similar outburst at the start of the season? Which perpetuated rumours of him being off to ManYoo or Real Madrid? These things come in swings and roundabouts anyways. Next year will probably be Fergie's year, and Wenger will be chasing second, with the press on his back instead. Such is life. At the end of the day, there's little to choose between them. Least we've had a decent Premiership this year. And let's not forget, it's likely to the be the Scousers that come second too. . .
It wasnt an outburst questioning players commitment if I rememeber rightly though. More one of frustration about not signing top players. And I'm sure Wenger didn't then say 'Patrick can say whatever he likes as captain' like Sir Ferg did last night.
In a roundabout way, surely Vieira basically said the rest of the current team weren't up to it, no? And, does anybody really believe he'll still be lining up in an Arsenal shirt come next season? There's commitment for you.
Fair play to Keane for saying what football fans think aloud all the time: that certain player's have bottled it at crucial times etc. What amazes me about Fergie is that he's actually stood by players (ie. Veron) who've obviously been majorly over-performing..
Depthcharge, I think United's problem is that their bread & butter players (Butt, Neville, Silvestre, etc) have genuinely been doing their jobs week in, week out, but it's their flair players who've let them down at the last. Sublime on occasion but haven't been turning it on every week the way the likes of Ljunberg's been doing of late, or Pires before him.
Originally posted by depthcharge Henry or Van Hoojidonk?
Not signing that mercenary are they ? Far better off sticking with Van Nistelrooy !!!! 
Originally posted by To Nkroachment : Yarbles > Originally posted by depthcharge> > Henry or Van Hoojidonk?>
Not signing that mercenary are they ? Far better off sticking with Van Nistelrooy !!!!
Depthcharge lives a little distance from our shores - Man United, Arsenal, Feyenoord, they're all the same to him!
Originally posted by El Jarvo In a roundabout way, surely Vieira basically said the rest of the current team weren't up to it, no? And, does anybody really believe he'll still be lining up in an Arsenal shirt come next season? There's commitment for you.
Hmmmm sort of..but it's different to suggesting players aren't putting it in on the pitch - which surely should be left to the manager behind closed doors. Can't be great for team spirit to have him mouthing off like that. Fair play to him for saying it - but not the combined press of the world. Regarding Vieira...did anyone expect him to line up for Arsenal this year? Yet he still did, and I don't think his performances, particuarly recently have lacked any commitment to the Arse cause at all
Originally posted by Seb Briggs > Originally posted by El Jarvo> In a roundabout way, surely Vieira basically said the rest of the current team weren't up to it, no? And, does anybody really believe he'll still be lining up in an Arsenal shirt come next season? There's commitment for you.>
Regarding Vieira...did anyone expect him to line up for Arsenal this year? Yet he still did, and I don't think his performances, particuarly recently have lacked any commitment to the Arse cause at all
Nothing at all to do with adding value to his signing-on fee for a post-World Cup transfer at all !!!!!
Originally posted by Seb Briggs you're a cynical man sloppy ;)
You haven't seen some of the signing on fees these ex-pros are after who have just been released following the TV farce......average Div 2 players who see non-league as a meal ticket and expect us to pay through the nose. One recent Div 3 24 year old we were talking to wanted £600 a week and ten grand in his pocket, a 50% payrise for dropping two divisions !! That sort of thing makes you cynical. Mark my words though, by the end of June it'll be an employers market again, as hundreds of ex-pros are faced with taking either the going rate or the dole.
Originally posted by El Jarvo > > > > > Not signing that mercenary are they ? Far better off sticking with Van Nistelrooy !!!!
Depthcharge lives a little distance from our shores - Man United, Arsenal, Feyenoord, they're all the same to him!
Ooops! Slip of the tongue in all this championship madness...
Any more wise cracks and I'll be testing you chaps' knowledge of Australian sporting leagues! I don't do too badly from out here in the colonies..
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and I was just shocked to see ESPN (that's the big Cable sports network here in the states) showing a highlight from the match...they never, ever, mention football unless it refers to the NFL or NCAA....
