The thread about the split and the e-mail....
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Indeed, just had a certain AR on the phone from Cannes! 
Think people should let the dust settle for a while.
El Jarvo wrote: Indeed, just had a certain AR on the phone from Cannes!
Think people should let the dust settle for a while.
Andrew Ridgley???!!!
So the Wham reunion rumours are true then!! Mega!!!
it just seems odd that a source close to the band would request that these threads would be closed. Silly harmless threads.
was it jack so he could stop trawling through them all and GET ON WITH HIS BLOODY REVISION!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually, there is no rat. I received a call requesting that the thread be removed, as some of the information contained within it was misleading and potentially harmful, and could have a negative impact on the attempts to patch up this latest rift between the band.
fookit it's oldmonkey again wrote: Actually, there is no rat. I received a call requesting that the thread be removed, as some of the information contained within it was misleading and potentially harmful, and could have a negative impact on the attempts to patch up this latest rift between the band.
Which is bang on really isn't it.
It's a big time & year for the band,the film,the soundtrack,the re-releases,whatever else,they & we hardly need this pantomime.Another controversial page in the turbulent soap that is J.D./N.O./Factory.It's fookin' great!!!
:\ohwell:
R.I.P Ian Curtis
18.05.80
fookit it's oldmonkey again wrote: Actually, there is no rat. I received a call requesting that the thread be removed, as some of the information contained within it was misleading and potentially harmful, and could have a negative impact on the attempts to patch up this latest rift between the band.
Hmmm,that's how it looks to me.. Maybe Hooky anounced the split in haste,maybe not. You know how it is with old mates....Like with family,you can fall out and regret it in no time at all,and you are mates again soon enough,with all the ties that bind you.
Just speculating mind,as I'm not sure anyone but themselves knows the extent of the breakdown between Hooky and Barney.
Fingers crossed.
Hooky's blog caused more damage than those threads. You would think that NO would be more concerned with cannes right now, than this site. I for the life of me couldn't think of any damage that was done with these threads.
But it is good to honor their wishes.
Best of luck to AR & RB anyway.
As more details come out it does sound like the management have been stuck between a rock (Barney) and a hard place (Hooky) with all these split announcements. From the earlier "split" rumours it sounded like they had mutually decided not to work together as New Order again. All change now eh.
Just goes to show that these little interview comments leaking out (MySpace) do more damage than a thread on here could ever do. Understandable why they wanted it removed though.
Obviously if they really are gone as a band then that's fair enough, we've all had more than enough time to get used to it.
Failing that, one final gig and the Sirens leftovers album please
YEAH cut 'em some slack.All this speculation gets a bit boring ,no?On a BRIGHTER note i am looking forward to seeing CONTROL.
Crikey. If anyone within - or connected with - the band give two shits about what the dozen-or-so plebs who contribute to this forum think, then it probably really is time to knock it on the head.
Fuck me, they start the rumour then whine about it spreading. They aren't leaving Warners to sign for Chelsea are they?
I think the point though Fradders is that the press do read this site, as they do Hooky's MySpace, and all this unwanted media coverage over what is frankly a non-story has come about because the papers have got hold of stuff posted on here and on MySpace.
fookit it's oldmonkey again wrote: Just been removed at the request of a source close to the band. Sorry.
Tim, you should have deleted the part where it was problematic only, I have no idea if people still have access to the thread via the link on the home page (discuss this topic)...
I'll have to remove the link.
Spotnick wrote: Tim, you should have deleted the part where it was problematic only, I have no idea if people still have access to the thread via the link on the home page (discuss this topic)...
No, they don't. Only people with access to the "Deleted Posts" forum can read the thread.
Meanwhile, there's just been a quite substantial piece about "Control" on Channel 4 news.
I was wondering, actually: does the 'split' create more or less 'good' publicity for the band and their back catalogue - a back catalogue that's going to be very lucrative this year when the movie comes out......
Surréaliste ! surrealistic...Nobody wants NO to split, that's obvious. But,hum, we have the right to wonder what's happening ? haven't we ?
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: Surréaliste ! surrealistic...Nobody wants NO to split, that's obvious. But,hum, we have the right to wonder what's happening ? haven't we ?
Absolutely not! NO WONDERING! Just buy the remastered back catalogue and London's new compilation "The Very Best of New Order."
That is all.
wrote: Just to ad my twopenneth,does hooky actually write his own blog? you may be surprised?
Yes he does. there's stuff in there that only he could know, such as when he took the piss out of me. Fletch wasn't there.
Doctor Clayhead wrote: Crikey. If anyone within - or connected with - the band give two shits about what the dozen-or-so plebs who contribute to this forum think, then it probably really is time to knock it on the head.
Just for that, an angry email from New Order's management is being sent to your employer.
His Holiness, The Pope wrote:
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: Surréaliste ! surrealistic...Nobody wants NO to split, that's obvious. But,hum, we have the right to wonder what's happening ? haven't we ?
Absolutely not! NO WONDERING! Just buy the remastered back catalogue and London's new compilation "The Very Best of New Order."
That is all.
:D rigolo! vive la démocratie! - funny! democracy rules! ( i think that's a correct translation, but i'm not certain with the sense of the word "to rule" ,)
But, anyway i don't buy compilations.
fookit it's oldmonkey again wrote:
Yes he does. there's stuff in there that only he could know, such as when he took the piss out of me. Fletch wasn't there.
Must have missed that bit tim,will have to go and have a look.......
what's actually happened here?
not been on the site for a couple of days until now, whats gone on?
[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: what's actually happened here?
not been on the site for a couple of days until now, whats gone on?
Two words.
A. Lot.
*cough*too much drama for one brain to digest if you ask me.*cough*
Hi Jack, I don't know if I'm teaching you to suck eggs here, but (the rest of) New Order are saying they haven't split...someone started a thread about it, speculating who said what, and ATR asked for it to be removed. Basically we are all just hoping things can be sorted out with your dad so this fantastic band can continue.
i don't know if you were taking the p*ss asking what was going on, so I could look like a mug here if you were
According to Jack... yes!
marcus mee wrote: Hi Jack, I don't know if I'm teaching you to suck eggs here, but (the rest of) New Order are saying they haven't split...someone started a thread about it, speculating who said what, and ATR asked for it to be removed. Basically we are all just hoping things can be sorted out with your dad so this fantastic band can continue.
i don't know if you were taking the p*ss asking what was going on, so I could look like a mug here if you were
nah maaaate
i actually don't have a clue what's happened! 
[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: what's actually happened here?
not been on the site for a couple of days until now, whats gone on?
we have decided that you're going to be the replacement. :D
NOOLigan wrote:
[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: what's actually happened here?
not been on the site for a couple of days until now, whats gone on?
we have decided that you're going to be the replacement. :D
[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote:
marcus mee wrote: Hi Jack, I don't know if I'm teaching you to suck eggs here, but (the rest of) New Order are saying they haven't split...someone started a thread about it, speculating who said what, and ATR asked for it to be removed. Basically we are all just hoping things can be sorted out with your dad so this fantastic band can continue.
i don't know if you were taking the p*ss asking what was going on, so I could look like a mug here if you were
nah maaaate
i actually don't have a clue what's happened!
Another chez hooky that aint got a clue whats goin on?
A bit of creative tension.
Fantastic.
Get in the studio NOW, get another great album out, get back out on tour
Mountain Man wrote: A bit of creative tension.
Fantastic.
Get in the studio NOW, get another great album out, get back out on tour
could,t agree more. It always good for music.
marcus mee wrote: Hi Jack, I don't know if I'm teaching you to suck eggs here, but (the rest of) New Order are saying they haven't split...someone started a thread about it, speculating who said what, and ATR asked for it to be removed. Basically we are all just hoping things can be sorted out with your dad so this fantastic band can continue.
Andy never asked for it to be removed!
Someone had phoned someone else telling porkies about what had been written on this forum (allegedly) about Andy, which is why the thread was removed. Er, even though said thread didn't actually SAY what it was supposed to have said.
Confused? I fcuking am!
Storm in a D-Cup.
Indeed. ATR rang me asking for the thread to be removed on behalf of Andy Rob. ATR had been advised by a NOOL member (who hasn't contributed to this thread yet) that there was something on here about Andy. I did as requested and removed the thread.
This thread has degenerated into a complete load of bollox,it's just ended up where the other one was before being pulled.Anyone else bored with this? 
Last job I left, I took everyone to the pub.
Hooky's taken everyone to the pictures!
Then the pub
[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: i still don't have a clue whats been going on!
Jack
Can u take ya father's duty on the dj set and tell him to come back to the band, please?
[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: i still don't have a clue whats been going on!
Its a bit like an old episode of SOAP (you won't remember that - american comedy from 1980s) to me.
But,
Hooky alledged that NO were no more on his myspace page.
Then the management denied any knowledge of any split.
Now they have all been to Cannes together.
The movie is getting RAVE reviews
there's a photo of that sam reilly fellow with STEVE(nice t-shirt!) in the 'IrishDailyStar' (this has nothing to do with any 'split' rumours - I just thought i'd mention it)
thats about it really
except that your dad will hopefully be DJing here in Dubland next month - so i'm happy anyway! :D
CuanaD - D-plus wrote:
[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: i still don't have a clue whats been going on!
Its a bit like an old episode of SOAP (you won't remember that - american comedy from 1980s) to me. But, Hooky alledged that NO were no more on his myspace page.
Then the management denied any knowledge of any split. Now they have all been to Cannes together. The movie is getting RAVE reviews there's a photo of that sam reilly fellow with STEVE(nice t-shirt!) in the 'IrishDailyStar' (this has nothing to do with any 'split' rumours - I just thought i'd mention it)thats about it really
except that your dad will hopefully be DJing here in Dubland next month
I SAW THAT PICTURE!! I LOVE THAT PICTURE!! YAY!!
Well, maybe I'll come down for that since I missed Belfast.
Don't worry Jack, we're ALL fucking baffled mate.
Bottom line: as long as they all keep making music, I'm easy.
If the band themselves don't know WTF is going on, then what chance have mere relatives...or fans for that matter.
at the end of the day... just one simple question after all: why does he (or his manager) name his MySpace-profile myspace.com/peterhookneworder and not peterhook-EX-neworder or something like that? obviously it has been set up not too long ago!
mike powell wrote: so much for free speech eh? lets see em deny that they are facists now eh
a valid point,
do we take it that everytime someone in NO maangement sees something on here (or gets told something 3rd hand that aint actually true) that they don't like will it be removed ?
The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote:
mike powell wrote: so much for free speech eh? lets see em deny that they are facists now eh
a valid point,
do we take it that everytime someone in NO maangement sees something on here (or gets told something 3rd hand that aint actually true) that they don't like will it be removed ?
indeed. the only people who care about what The Management think are the ones with close ties to them. we should be able to say whatever the fuck we want on here. this isn't their OFFICIAL website, no matter how often it's mistaken for it.
Er, could everyone just simmer down, please!
The removal of said thread had fcuk all to do with New Order's management. Nothing to do with them whatsoever!!
But why let the FACTS get in the way of a good rumour, hey?!
Isamu wrote: I BEG you guys to have mercy upon my poor little ignorant brain but WTF is "Control"?
It's an abbreviation of "Quality Control" It's about trying to get the album 'Republic' not to sound so poor.
Isamu wrote: I BEG you guys to have mercy upon my poor little ignorant brain but WTF is "Control"?
Boatraceface wrote:
Isamu wrote: I BEG you guys to have mercy upon my poor little ignorant brain but WTF is "Control"?
It's an abbreviation of "Quality Control" It's about trying to get the album 'Republic' not to sound so poor.
just spilt my tea everywhere you bast!
Like Isaid before, until either hooky of barney are dead and buried (sorry steve and gillian), the band always has a chance to record....
Old Blue wrote:
Isamu wrote: I BEG you guys to have mercy upon my poor little ignorant brain but WTF is "Control"?
This picture alone is worth me logging in today.
Isamu wrote: I BEG you guys to have mercy upon my poor little ignorant brain but WTF is "Control"?
It's all over the front pages of this site - click "Home" in the menu above! 
El Jarvo wrote: Er, could everyone just simmer down, please!
The removal of said thread had fcuk all to do with New Order's management. Nothing to do with them whatsoever!!
But why let the FACTS get in the way of a good rumour, hey?!
Was it John Ford that said if you had the choice between printing the truth or the legend....print the legend.
AAH thankyou.
