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What songs fooled you into thinking that Hook's bass was a guitar the first time around?

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I was absolutely shocked when I saw the video for Perfect Kiss, and it was Hook playing that high pitched riff. Also, I swore that the end part of Fine Time was a guitar...No way could that have been anything but a 6 string! Fooled again. Crystal fooled me too, but that was basically my earliest exposure to New Order, so I didn't know anything about Hook's unorthodox style yet.

Still not sure about some....with Angel Dust, Way Of Life, and Face Up I still can't tell if the guitar sounding parts are actually Peter.

J

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everything's gone green

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PCL was my first exposure to NO; We All Stand probably fooled me on the first few listens, not knowing at the time Hooky played a six-string.

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If you knew his sound from early on,I think it's quite easily recognizeable,if not the sound,then the style of playing & range.I think the only one that made me listen to it again was the end of 1963:thumb:

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TPK for sure. Also the high bits in Procession and C&W.

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Well...Before I actually learned alot about the band, I was under the impression that the band had 2 guitarists (Barney n Hooky) with "The girl" playing keyboards :( So, quite alot of songs...

The main (and most embarressing) being

Blue Monday In A Lonely Place Procession Ceremony Subculture Crystal 60mph Angel Dust Everythings Gone Green Temptation Age of Consent 1963 Perfect Kiss

And from Joy Division...

Heart and Soul Isolation (Don't ask why...) She's Lost Control Transmission (I always thought it was a distorted guitar) 24 Hours

I feel like such a "noob" :lol:

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JV wrote: PCL was my first exposure to NO; We All Stand probably fooled me on the first few listens, not knowing at the time Hooky played a six-string.

I did not know that Hook played a six string bass....Do those even exist?

J

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No Holiday wrote:

I did not know that Hook played a six string bass....Do those even exist?

J

Well, considering he's been playing Blue Monday with one for 25 years...

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Big Black wrote:

No Holiday wrote:

I did not know that Hook played a six string bass....Do those even exist?

J

Well, considering he's been playing Blue Monday with one for 25 years...

There are probably at least a dozen songs with the six string, also used on Heart & Soul from Closer.

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what about when hooky & barney both play bass on confusion?

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hibster wrote: what about when hooky & barney both play bass on confusion?

you know I was thinking about that....On the Substance version I hear a bass part after the airy synths, and then I hear Hook's bass meshed in with it, and I was like WTF I thought that was Hook already!

J

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World.

Just kidding!

Actually the ones that stick out for me are 1963 outro and Elegia. I still cant work out how they hell he plays Elegia on the bass!!

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You know I always thought it was a guitar!

Was is it then? One of these:

:p

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"Dreams Never End" introduction 6-strings bass riff sounds like a guitar. I was fooled also with "Elegia". But, when I heard "Perfect Kiss" first time Bernard's guitar after chorus sounded to me as a slap bass! :laugh:

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Everything's Gone Green

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Disorder :brow:

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Just Like Heaven

:evil4: :smoking:

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No Holiday wrote:

JV wrote: PCL was my first exposure to NO; We All Stand probably fooled me on the first few listens, not knowing at the time Hooky played a six-string.

I did not know that Hook played a six string bass....Do those even exist?

J

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Also the musical interlude between verses on Lonesome Tonight. I always thought it was bells or a keyboard. As with Elegia I just cant fathom how he's got such a gorgeous sound from bass.

As David Coleman would say "Ehhh quite remarkable!".

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when I first started listening to them I thought *ALL* the instruments being played in their songs were guitars, seriously!

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NO Regret wrote: As with Elegia I just cant fathom how he's got such a gorgeous sound from bass.

Effects pedals... :nod:

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What songs fooled you into thinking that Hook's bass was a guitar the first time around?

None of them. Sorry but true.

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Age of Consent for me... But that's just because I was young and naive back in the early 1980's...

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Actually for me it's the other way around.

Was shoked the first time I heard All Day Long on a bootleg, to find out that the bit before the big upwardly arpreggiating strings, is a fuckin guitar. Once I knew it, I ignored it and went on playing it on bass.

For he who asked about the existence of 6 strings. They do exist in vast numbers, the majority are however set with the 4 normal strings, plus one lower and one higher. Hooky's is one of very few designed to be tuned like a guitar but 1 octave down. Shergold, the manufacturer, actually don't call it a bass, but a "baritone guitar". Any 6 string bass can be tuned this way, but some will never be comfortable as they were built for funking low strings not playing tunes on high ones.

A normal 4 string bass, should not really be called a bass guitar but a "guitar bass". The former term makes it sound like a type of guitar (in the engerlish way of specific-general description). In reality it is an upright contrabass, a member of the violin family, which has been warped and shrunk into the style and shape of a guitar. This was largely because adolf rickenbacker had a friend who was sick as fuck of carrying a family car sized bass around.

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No Holiday wrote:

JV wrote: PCL was my first exposure to NO; We All Stand probably fooled me on the first few listens, not knowing at the time Hooky played a six-string.

I did not know that Hook played a six string bass....Do those even exist?

J

Check out ANY Blue Monday live video and you'll see it!!!

and going back to the main topic... for sure The Perfect Kiss!!

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oldmonkey wrote:

What songs fooled you into thinking that Hook's bass was a guitar the first time around?

None of them. Sorry but true.

:nod: none of them too.It never sounded like a guitar, even if Hooky plays high notes.

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Chosen Time.

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