'Bernard Sumner' - David Nolan's Book — Forum Archive

13 Jul 2007, 09:48

May be of interest to you, but I was sent this press release by the man himself:

BERNARD SUMNER

CONFUSION: JOY DIVISION, ELECTRONIC AND NEW ORDER VERSUS THE WORLD By David Nolan

Bernard Sumner has read the manuscript of David Nolan's new book 'Confusion' and decided to contribute to the biography.

He's added his thoughts and observations to David's text, put many previously private matters into context and had a right to reply on some of the more controversial aspects of the book.

David Nolan says: "Bernard Sumner has read this book; it was vital that he be allowed to respond to some of the issues raised, particularly the very personal ones.

"To his credit, Bernard took a great deal of time and care offering his thoughts on the manuscript. As a result, where I had initially made a mistake, I have corrected it. Where his version differed to someone else's, I've included both. Where Bernard offers insight into something I could only have guessed at, I have added it verbatim.

"Unofficial biographies often have the sense that the author has the freedom to write whatever he or she wants, but is hampered by a lack of insider knowledge. Official ones have the story straight from the horse's mouth, but sometimes with the suspicion that deals have been struck and harsher words censored. This is an odd mix of both and is all the better for it.

Good luck for the future Bernard. Your past has been a fascinating puzzle to piece together."

David Nolan Manchester, Summer 2007

PUBLISHED BY INDEPENDENT MUSIC PRESS ON AUGUST 30TH, 2007ISBN:0-9552822-6-8 and 978-0-9552822-6-3 234mm x 156mm Paperback 240 pages50 rare and unpublished photographs including 1 x 8 pp glossy b/w plates + 32 integrated pics £12.99

13 Jul 2007, 09:56

Nice one Chris , I'll be snapping up a copy deffo :nod:

13 Jul 2007, 10:25

Excellent! :clap:

Can't wait for the book to come out :nod:

13 Jul 2007, 10:30

spiffy

13 Jul 2007, 10:35

I shall buy this book and probably READ it for once.Still haven't read two of the NEW ORDER books i purchased.One i got in 1995.Hope the PLASTIC bag has done its JOB.Dreading MOVING the ENTIRE collection when i MOVE soon. :nod: :laugh:

17 Jul 2007, 08:39

BERNARD SUMNER – CONFUSION: Joy Division, Electronic and New Order Versus the World by David Nolan BOOK LAUNCH 1 SEPTEMBER 2007 Bull's Head, Market Square, Stockport.

£4 entry on the door. Numbers strictly limited – pre-booking advised.

Live music from TRANSMISSION (Warsaw set/Joy Division set) punk, post punk and dance DJ sets ... Book readings by author David Nolan – plus books for sale ... cheaper than the shops! Get your copy signed.

IF YOU SEND AN EMAIL TO davidnolanwriter@hotmail.com WITH YOUR NAME AND HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU WANT IN – AND YOU ARRIVE BEFORE 8.30PM – YOU'LL GET AN EMAIL BACK AND BE GUARANTEED ENTRY. AFTER 8.30 IT'S FIRST COME FIRST SERVED.

8pm Doors 8.30pm Curfew for 'guest list' ... if you've registered your name you will get in if you are there before 8.30pm. DJ 9.30pm 1st reading plus short 'Warsaw' set 10pm DJ 11pm 2nd short reading plus 'Joy Division' set DJ Close – LATE

17 Jul 2007, 08:52

I reckon that would be worth the journey of a couple of stops north on the West Coast Main line :nod:

17 Jul 2007, 08:52

I just signed up for a notice of when it'll be available. Can't wait!

23 Jul 2007, 21:17

how are americans gonna get a copy of this book??????

23 Jul 2007, 22:36

Probably just pumping him with more lies. :laugh: Nah, it should be interesting. :nod:

23 Jul 2007, 23:14

Tommy Nigro wrote: how are americans gonna get a copy of this book??????

You could always try buying it

failing that,just steal the fucker..

:laugh:

23 Jul 2007, 23:24

Tommy Nigro wrote: how are americans gonna get a copy of this book??????

Well unlike US based companies, companies in the free world are quite willing to sell to overseas customers.

24 Jul 2007, 00:13

Looking forward to this, it may finally put some of the myths to bed. Glad to hear Barney has been involved as well, as David mentions, a lot of these books come out and you never get a right of reply or are left with a one way conversation ;)

:viking:

24 Jul 2007, 01:07

ShugZViking wrote: Looking forward to this, it may finally put some of the myths to bed. Glad to hear Barney has been involved as well, as David mentions, a lot of these books come out and you never get a right of reply or are left with a one way conversation ;)

Er... which "do not work somehow"?

Sorry :read:

24 Jul 2007, 06:01

Well, speaking as an American, I plan on purchasing it through Amazon. If that somehow fails me, I'm a librarian and I have plenty of publishing contacts. *smile*

24 Jul 2007, 06:26

Its gonna be this years biggest selling book. There is no question about it.

24 Jul 2007, 10:41

im saying, through amazon.com its $30.00 to get in america.

I love barney, dont get me wrong and by no means cheap, but i rather go to a store and pay half!!

Does anyone know if this book is getting American distribution??

24 Jul 2007, 11:02

NO Regret wrote: Its gonna be this years biggest selling book. There is no question about it.

24 Jul 2007, 12:28

:abovelol:

I always read that phrase in His voice too :lol:

25 Jul 2007, 06:59

Tommy Nigro wrote: im saying, through amazon.com its $30.00 to get in america.

I love barney, dont get me wrong and by no means cheap, but i rather go to a store and pay half!!

Does anyone know if this book is getting American distribution??

Considering that in the UK if you bought it from Amazon, it would be £12.99, plus £1.50 p&p - that would be around US$28 wouldn't it?

If you went to the shops in the UK and paid £12.99 for the book, plus your £4 bus fare there and back - that's the same as $34 from Amazon.

Stop being a complainy head and be grateful that books are cheaper in your country :nod:

I'm buying one anyway!

30 Jul 2007, 18:39

going to buy five copies one for each of my eyes

30 Jul 2007, 18:45

erm....I'm confused...

30 Jul 2007, 19:14

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: erm....I'm confused...

all will be revealed,

on the next episode of...

Soap

:nod:

15 Aug 2007, 04:00

Anyone got this yet? Im about a third of the way through. Theres nothing shockingly new in there but theres definitely new light shed on a few familiar stories. Terry Mason is a major contributor. Bernards contributions are set aside from the rest of the text in italics, and tend to consist of "bollocks thats not the way it happened" or, rather predictably "I have no memory of that". They seem a bit tacked on but theres a few interesting insights. Theres a reprinting of the MENs original, month late tribute to "Ian Wilson" lead singer of Joy division. Thought that was quite poignant after fridays sad news. Its marred a bit by some atrocious spelling. Doesnt anyone employ proof readers anymore? Your instead of youre and here instead of hear. No fucking excuse for that. what are they teaching in schools... in my day... blah blah

15 Aug 2007, 07:42

You got a promo copy, Adam? It's not out for another two weeks.

Maybe the release print run has the typos sorted, but probably not.

Anyone got their name down for the Stockport launch on Sept 1st ??

15 Aug 2007, 08:16

Marks just texted me about that too, got it in Borders on Oxford street on monday. There was quite a few of them and surely books get proofread before they go and print a shitload and stick them on the shelves of one of Londons prime bookshops? Or is that a crazy idea? Anyway as I said it`s definitely worth picking up for shedding if not new, then certainly different light on anecdotes that I think most of us would be pretty familiar with.

15 Aug 2007, 08:32

Adam Coglan wrote: Its marred a bit by some atrocious spelling. Doesnt anyone employ proof readers anymore? Your instead of you`re and here instead of hear. No fucking excuse for that. what are they teaching in schools... in my day... blah blah

Imagine if a Hooky autobiography ever sees the light of day! :eek3:

15 Aug 2007, 11:51

eh...maybe he got himself a Chinese bootleg...

15 Aug 2007, 12:12

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: eh...maybe he got himself a Chinese bootleg...

You mean read it once and half an hour later you want to read it again? Yes, quite possibly!

15 Aug 2007, 14:17

El Jarvo wrote:

Adam Coglan wrote: Its marred a bit by some atrocious spelling. Doesnt anyone employ proof readers anymore? Your instead of you`re and here instead of hear. No fucking excuse for that. what are they teaching in schools... in my day... blah blah

Imagine if a Hooky autobiography ever sees the light of day!

It's apparently due at some point, but not before his Hac book! :p

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