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When Control was inked in for the Melbourne International Film Festival, it seemed a decent enough excuse to reconvene the Melbourne Order, a gathering so exclusive we had to turn away Australia's number one New Order fan Chris Z.

So the premiere session was tonight and present from the MO were CTB and his long-suffering missus, yours truly and about 42 Ian Pillars - we weren't quite sure which nose-picking goth was him. Surprisingly enough, the house was packed and knowledgeable, perhaps Joy Division's back in vogue now that the kids are sporting skinny ties and Chuck Taylors again.

The flick itself is decent. Expertly crafted - we all know Corbijn frames a mean monochrome - and he splices in lots of lingering arty shots and the 70's Manc milieu is as stark and depressive as you'd imagine. Credit to the actors, Sam Reilly is as charismatic as has been reported and Sam Morton believable as the cruelled Mrs Curtis (although to be nitpicky she looked a touch too old). Toby Kebbell's caricature of Rob Gretton injects much-needed laughs into what are often grim proceedings. The rest of the band and the supporting characters we all know and love are impressively portrayed, although on several occasions you suspect that the real events probably weren't nearly as exciting as legend has it.

Expect some of you will be slightly disappointed at the lack of Joy Divisionness of it all. I know we were. The focus of the film is Ian and Deborah's relationship and how it fractures when Annik arrives. You only get a few tastes of all that rich JD folklore, but this is Ian's story after all. And he is hard to like at times, tortured anti-hero genius or not. Fortunately the despair of his one-way ticket to the ceiling is broken up with some rewarding JD minutiae for the fans. The genesis of the 'dead fly dance' is clever and it's fun watching Hooky fire up at the Derby Hall riot. Thought there may have been some Jim Morrison references, wasn't Ian meant to idolise him? He seemed to model himself more on David Bowie early.

For you New Order completists, there's little new material to be mined from the film. Fortunately what was there sounded cool, even if it was only incidental music. We counted only 3 or 4 instrumentals we couldn't place, the rest of the soundtrack is all Bowie, Iggy, Buzzcocks, Kraftwerk, etc, and the JD songs played live by the cast. It'll be interesting to see whether they do release a soundtrack containing the actual NO incidental pieces, ala Salvation.

Some may recall Hooky saying how surreal it was when the Cannes crowd gave it a round of applause as the closing credits rolled and indeed the same occurred in Melbourne. Suspect Control is going to be favourably-received critically, even if no one goes to see it. But all this mattered little to the Melbourne Order as they trudged off into the winter's night, CTB dutifully informing us how they'd bungled the drum patterns on Candidate ...

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Cheers for that, pretty decent, balanced review. Tell Wayne that when all is said and done, the drum mistakes really don't matter! lol

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The Canberra Order will be there for the next screening. It would be good to finally catch up with some of you Melbourneites.

Top review BTW.

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***I had just written a few amazingly witty insights here that sadly vanished when I clicked submit. Serves me right.***

As expected, an excellent summary of the evening from ChargeMan, a few additional comments of my own though:

The film is in itself a decent piece of work, bearing all the hallmarks of Corbijn's eye for detail on the settings, which all looked suitably 70's and grim. The 're-enactments' (eg. the performance of 'Transmission' on Wilson's show) were equally well executed. The supporting characters of Wilson, Gretton, Hooky, Barney and (largely mute) Steven were, perhaps by neccessity, used as light relief/comic foils to counterpoint the inevitable (but slow) unravelling of the tragic Ian/Debbie/Annik story. I suspect people with more interest in the internal machinations of JD as a band will be slightly put off by this (I was a little bit), but as DC said, the film isn't about JD, it's a biopic of Ian. I suggest diehards stick to their documentary footage for the "real" JD story. The incidental music (simply stated in the credits as being 'by New Order') was enjoyable, but won't be troubling anyone’s 'top 5 NO tracks' list on future posts here. One NO track of particular resonance is a very atmospheric piece composed of slow piano chords interspersed with a very simple 2-3 note Hooky riff and barely-there percussion. Great stuff, but think Salvation meets Saville Show for comparison. Amidst all the insane bollocks appearing on this site of late, does anyone actually know what the release date and details of the soundtrack are at this point? On the whole an entertaining but dour film experience (as expected), and very well put together as a piece of art (but not a documentary). Good to catch up with Depthy again for a few beers! Cheers all CTB :bear:

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CTB wrote: Amidst all the insane bollocks appearing on this site of late, does anyone actually know what the release date and details of the soundtrack are at this point?

Official soundtrack was supposed to drop in September but think it's been delayed. Hope to see another version featuring the NO incidental music.

Drive-in Saturday - David Bowie 2hb - Roxy Music The Jean Genie - David Bowie Sister Midnight - Iggy Pop Problems (live) - Sex Pistols No Love Lost - Joy Division Evidently Chicken Town - John Cooper Clarke Leaders Of Men - "Joy Moviesion" Boredom - The Buzzcocks Digital - "Joy Moviesion" Transmission - "Joy Moviesion" Insight - "Joy Moviesion" She's Lost Control - "Joy Moviesion" Candidate - "Joy Moviesion" What Goes On - Velvet Underground Disorder - "Joy Moviesion" Atmosphere - Joy Division Shadowplay - The Killers

"Joy Moviesion" is Sam Riley and cast.

LWTUA featured prominently but doesn't make the cut.

Guess they couldn't license Kraftwerk.

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depthcharge wrote: Evidently Chicken Town - John Cooper Clarke

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Incidentally, D - did you thank that was the real JCC depicting himself? Looked like him to me, and sounded the part as well.

Excellent sleuthery on the tracklisting, by the way CTB :bear:

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Reckon it was him, CTB. Looked grizzly enough!

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depthcharge wrote: Official soundtrack was supposed to drop in September but think it's been delayed. Hope to see another version featuring the NO incidental music.

Drive-in Saturday - David Bowie 2hb - Roxy Music The Jean Genie - David Bowie Sister Midnight - Iggy Pop Problems (live) - Sex Pistols No Love Lost - Joy Division Evidently Chicken Town - John Cooper Clarke Leaders Of Men - "Joy Moviesion" Boredom - The Buzzcocks Digital - "Joy Moviesion" Transmission - "Joy Moviesion" Insight - "Joy Moviesion" She's Lost Control - "Joy Moviesion" Candidate - "Joy Moviesion" What Goes On - Velvet Underground Disorder - "Joy Moviesion" Atmosphere - Joy Division Shadowplay - The Killers

"Joy Moviesion" is Sam Riley and cast.

LWTUA featured prominently but doesn't make the cut.

Guess they couldn't license Kraftwerk.

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YES!!!

Leaders of Men, Disorder, Insight, No Love Lost... Four of my favorite JD album tracks in my everyday playlist that I think are underrated. Finally, they were given the credit they deserve.

Indeed!

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Great reviews - cheers.

Suppose I've been missing the point by expecting it to be a bio of the band. Might give it a chance now I've read positive comments from such eminent reviewers.

EDIT: Will Patrick come out of retirement to post his review?

Will it be out on Blu Ray? :skeptic:

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depthcharge wrote: Reckon it was him, CTB. Looked grizzly enough!

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What? You guys didnt stay on for the end credits, eh? Off to the pub in a hurry? ...well, I did stayed on for the full credits roll (with the Killer's Shadowplay) and I caught the bit that said JOHN COOPER CLARKE - HIMSELF.

I remember commenting to my work colleagues the next day on how JCC never aged one bit on screen.......from a distance I guess, and some help from make-up department :)

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NOOLigan wrote: The Canberra Order will be there for the next screening. It would be good to finally catch up with some of you Melbourneites.

Top review BTW.

Looking fwd to the trip and movie in the next few days..we've all gotta meet up for some drinks before/after movie guys..:D :beer: :beer2:

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Manchester via Downunda wrote:

NOOLigan wrote: The Canberra Order will be there for the next screening. It would be good to finally catch up with some of you Melbourneites.

Top review BTW.

Looking fwd to the trip and movie in the next few days..we've all gotta meet up for some drinks before/after movie guys..:D :beer: :beer2:

Top AVATAR mate!:bow: That vinyl EP's got the definitive version of SUBCULTURE.Pure class.

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Rare timing for the second festival screening here tonight and it sounds like a few lads went along.

Wonder if they made any mention of AHW in the preamble ...

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depthcharge wrote: Rare timing for the second festival screening here tonight and it sounds like a few lads went along.

Wonder if they made any mention of AHW in the preamble ...

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no mention of AHW. This news has come as a shock.

A quick review. It is surprisingly funny in parts. Hookey and Rob seem to get all be best lines.

Memorable quote, Hannett to Bernard and Hookey: "would you two twats get out of my recording studio!!!"

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All the above reviews are great. I thought it was a class effort when Ronno/NOOLigan and I saw it last night. Yeah, was an absolute shock to come back on here and hear of Tony kicking it...fooking shame...him, Martin, Rob and Ian will all be looking down now laughing thier arses off with all the shite going on between those that're left behind.

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I caught it at Saturdays screening. We too wondered if there would be any AHW related preamble, but no.

Overall i thought it was brilliant. The way it was shot was just perfect i thought, Corbijn did a great job of capturing 79/80 Manchester. The portrayal of the characters seemed as close to spot on as you could get really, although i think Deborah was made out to be overly frumpy and i don't think they got Martin Hannett's hair quite right!

I've never before watched a film and been so disconnected from the main character the whole time, made you feel nervous throughout the whole film even though you knew what was coming.

The placement of the music was what made the film in a number of ways; even though a majority of the music was familiar it all seemed to fit perfectly, it wasn't forced use of JD music for the sake of it. When drums at the start of Atmosphere started to play it tugged on some heart strings.

Overall i was seriously impressed.

nb. my first post in 5+ years i think. i'm just trying to remember which of you i met at the signing at gaslight in jan 2002!

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You guys still have a few good record shops down there.

This is my haul.

Waiting for the Siren’s call promo cd Krafty & video NUCDP13 cd World promo cd 60 Miles an Hour tour ep cd Maximum Joy Division cd 60 Miles an Hour German dvd Joy Division ICB 1 Interview picture disc 7 inch Unknown Pleasures Picture record lp Closer coloured vinyl lp Day of the Lords, boot lp Gruftgesaenge, boot lp Pineapple Face Fac267 12 inch 7 Reasons Fac247 12 inch Raise the Pressure lp Someone Like You NXXDJ10 12 inch

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NOOLigan wrote: You guys still have a few good record shops down there.

This is my haul. ...... Raise the Pressure lp

WOW :eek: ...well done Ron, a good find indeed this Electronic vinyl, a rare LP...now i'm jealous that you found this pretty crap but rare piece of vinyl :lol:

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