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Shortly before ‘Confusion’ was due to go to press, author David Nolan sent the manuscript to the book’s subject, Bernard Sumner. Not that Bernard had requested it, but this was hardly junk mail. Previous attempts to involve Bernard had fallen on deaf ears but something had clearly changed. This time around, over 80 comments came whistling back from a now interested Bernard in response to point after point of the uncommissioned biog. What's more, every single one of these comments are included within the book, inserted verbatim, in Italics, after the section they respond to.

So what changed? Well the depth and accuracy of Nolan’s research, mined from official sources and supported by primary accounts, provides such a credible storyboard that to leave it unanswered could lend provenance to the parts where journalistic licence was exercised. Add to that, a good few contentious comments from ex-school pal and long term JD/NO roadie Terry Mason and maybe Nolan forced Bernard’s hand.

Suddenly it’s in both Nolan’s and Bernard’s favour for an additional dimension to be added to the book. And make no mistake the book is way better for it. Bernard’s personal feedback adds a gravitas to the piece which no amount of research would ever match. Bernard’s comments contain the usual blend of sarcastic one-liners and dry observation that have become his trademark. I must confess on opening the book to flicking through the pages and heading straight to Bernard’s comments before returning to the start and reading the book properly. These comments represent the books unique selling point, but it’s also the quality of the initial manuscript that provides the platform for those responses.

Nolan charts Bernard’s life story from the beginning. First page of the first chapter and we’re at Salford Registry Office checking out the birth certificate! Poor Bernard must have known the game was up when he read that. Further contributions are sourced from Salford Local History Museum, more old school mates “Barney and Hooky were quite into robbing”, former Cosgrove Hall colleague Chris Taylor “Bernard was the youngster – one grade up from tea boy”, Hacienda DJs and glass collectors not to mention the usual suspects Mason and the late Tony Wilson.

As Nolan’s investigations, allied to Bernard’s responses, drop the bomb on many myths they also unearth previously unpublicised sensitive details. As you’d expect family favourites like the name changes (with intriguing twist), accusations of nazi sympathies, the Smash Hits photographer on the US tour, Prozac Diary TV doc, working practices at the Hacienda and Bernard’s attitude towards touring all fall under the microscope. However they sit alongside a revealing account of Bernard’s upbringing thoughtfully contextualised within Salford social history and the inter-band dynamics which made working outside NO more and more appealing, the singer disclosing “my mother suffered from cerebral palsy” and “during Republic, Hooky didn’t respect Gillian, Gillian thought Hooky was a sexist pig, Steve was in a fix…….”

It would ruin the party to identify all the treasure hidden in the book but lets say there’s much to cause the hardcore fan’s eyebrows to be arched and plenty of morsels to be picked over by the ‘na na na-na-na’ (read the book) contingent on these boards.

If there’s a critiscism, chunks of the book are verging on a Terry Mason testimony. I guess as far as valid observers of how Bernard has changed from his Salford school days to that Sex Pistols gig through to international stardom are concerned, Mason’s pretty well got the market covered. Who else is there who’s been along for the ride and is willing to talk?.

Bernard eventually sacked Mason in 1989, after reflecting on the following Mason pleasantry while on tour in America “what’s up with you? (Barney), you only have to work 1 hour a day”!. Not generally a winner with your boss. But Nolan smartly includes the gratitude shown by their old friend when NO settle a huge medical bill for Mason after they’d gone their separate ways, to avoid undermining the star witness as a man with an axe to grind.

That said, Nolan’s cast reaches out beyond the obvious where possible, members of Section 25, Quando Quango and Crispy Ambulance along with the Hacienda’s longest serving staffer Leroy Richardson and Michael Eastwood (moist) ex flat mate of the new Mrs Sumner all provide insightful comments. Shadowplayers moved to front stage?. Nolan also makes good use of interviews given by Bernard over the years to reinforce notions and I suspect compensate for the initial lack of direct involvement from the man himself.

Fans aren’t ignored although Nolan seems (rightly) apprehensive of NO/JD message board culture. Surely there's a nod in the direction of NOOL’s forum with ‘muscles of fan authenticity are flexed and the tiniest glint of weakness is pounced upon and kicked to bits’. Anyone’s ears burning?!:D. However it’s the soft-centred Barneysangels.com that gets the better treatment ‘a blessed relief from the hard-core earnestness found elsewhere on the net’ including a small interview with proprietor Jennifer ‘I Heart Barney’ Vaughn. Other fan involvement includes a more confusing comment from Adriana Leoni who was in the front row during last November’s Buenos Aires NO gig. “You could see how happy Bernard and Hooky were” Adriana gushes. Er, sure you weren’t watching Madness the night before, by mistake, seniorita?!. B&H were snapping at each other from the second they stepped off the plane and I can’t recall a grumpier Barney on stage than at those South America gigs. But then perhaps I’m just pouncing and kicking, so lets put it down to first NO gig excitement and that when you Heart Barney, love is blind.

In the acknowledgements Nolan advises that ‘this is not a blow-by-blow account of Bernard Sumner’s recording career. It’s a book about his life and times’. It’s a comment worth bearing in mind. I didn't on the first flick through and felt it was a bit light on the music side of things!:confused2:. Don’t expect detailed analysis of the recording of Unknown Pleasures because it aint there. But if you’ve ever wondered about the truth behind the name changes, what Run Wild is about (not Steve and Gillian’s daughter), why the Oakwood (Special Needs) School gig has a private motivation for Bernard and how he’s involved with kids cartoon Jamie and the Magic Torch (no, he didn’t write the lyrics), well here’s your chance.

A thoroughly researched and highly readable account.

Well worth the £12.99 and available from Thursday August 30th (except for Borders on Oxford St who nabbed a few early copies and already have it in).

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.....if the book's as good as yer review :thumb:

Still to get this, will have to pull ma finger out ma bahooky soon.

:viking:

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Great review. it's whetted my appetite for it now :thumb:

I wonder if it'll make the bookshelves of Aberdeen though...

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great review JG Wasn't convinced that I would want to read this book - but after that review i'm definitely getting it asap

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I'll get you a signed one at the weekend :thumb:

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Temporary NOOL Review (proper one written 3 weeks ago along with interview):

I liked it.

:thumb:

P.S. Excellent review JG :beer:

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Just met the author but havent yet read the book. He tells me it is about Bernard the man and not about New Order. Dickin with an 'i' and not an 'e' was a surprise.

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a very small boy wrote: Just met the author but havent yet read the book. He tells me it is about Bernard the man and not about New Order. Dickin with an 'i' and not an 'e' was a surprise.

Was this the library bash?

Did many attend?

Does anyone know if the author's a big Neworderhead ... or just some journo who genuinely thought Bernard might make interesting copy?!

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That's revealed in the interview I did with him Al...

Soon to be on NOOL :thumb:

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Can't wait! Thanks Johnny!:thumb: :read:

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T'is a tenner on Amazon. Only took two hours to dispatch! :crazy:

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El Jarvo wrote:

a very small boy wrote: Just met the author but havent yet read the book. He tells me it is about Bernard the man and not about New Order. Dickin with an 'i' and not an 'e' was a surprise.

Was this the library bash?

Did many attend?

Does anyone know if the author's a big Neworderhead ... or just some journo who genuinely thought Bernard might make interesting copy?!

About 5 or 6 people were there. Couldnt be more precise as the room was so packed. This figure didnt include Gillian Gilbert who was pretending to be the librarian and a member of the Hassidic Order who left half way through. Possibly recognised the 'young man' who had ordered his copy of the book from Manchester Airport for 5 in the morning on Thursday.

Nolan wasnt a big NO fan but was interested in Bernard as a seemingly high profile musician but with a complete lack of public profile.

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Cheers Nic. Everyone seems to see us as 'FactoryOnLine' anyway, so no probs :laugh:

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That is a great review, can't wait to get my hands on the book:read:

(will start at the back with the Barney's Angels stuff, lol!)

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so how recent does it come to? is the break-up involved?

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Nicely done JG....raised my interest in the book (good day for the book to come out as well...).

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Goes as far as Hooky's blog on MySpace...

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Excellent review JG.

Will settle down and read it at the weekend. Although I have fast forwarded to Bernard's comments.

What did you think of the picture representation? I've seen some of them but not others. I thought there would be a couple more included though.

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Great review. Whetted my appetite for it and I just placed my order for it on Amazon- only £8.57 (or something)

Must admit I'd forgotten about this. Sort of thought it was due out at END of sept.

It's getting that way for me now that I've got loads of bootlegs to listen to while viewing "A history of Cuttings"... If I get bored with the bootlegs I can just switch to the radio shows I've been copied... And read the book about Sumner.

I'm certainly getting my NewOrder Nerd fix on here.

Thanks

You're all legends :bow:

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will i be able to purchase this intriguing insight in my local book shop?

(meaning ASDA of course)

:nod:

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PHD wrote: Excellent review JG.

Will settle down and read it at the weekend. Although I have fast forwarded to Bernard's comments.

What did you think of the picture representation? I've seen some of them but not others. I thought there would be a couple more included though.

Yeah, isn't overly heavy on pics is it?, although I wasn't that bothered. Wasn't expecting much new by the way of pics to be published so was quite interested in what did appear...the photo of the cobbled street in Salford where he grew up and the team pic from Cosgrove Hall. Best of all, am sure Bernard's delighted that Terry Mason shared the pic of him puking into a bin before a gig in the States! :rofl:

Pope - the ending's as up to date as it can be. David Nolan had to keep re writing the last chapter cos very time he finished it something else would pop up on Myspace etc. Bernard effectively summarises the statement he and Steve recently released about NO continuing regardless of Hooky's decision. In fact he wrote something along the lines of..."even if Steve and I never make another record as NO, we aint left"!. Which I wonder if that's about protecting his position to continue to be able to work under the name of 'New Order' as opposed to 'ex New Order'. Anyone else got any ideas on this?

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:\peek:

oh oh. i've just had an email from

auto-confirm@amazon.co.uk

:uhoh:

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Hi all, long time reader, first....zzzzz......

Anyways. I went into Borders tonight @ Oxford street and they've got quite a few copies. Even better, it was marked up at £12.99 but I was only charged £9.99 for it.

It's by no means a heavy read and for me the most intesresting stuff was the 80 - present period, being, as I am, more of a NO than a JD fan. There is some serious dispelling of some of the NO *myths* though.....on the whole its good stuff, well worth a read.

Cheers.

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Nice one Mark. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.

Dennis R

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Johnny Giles wrote: A thread for reviews. I'll kick things off....

... Other fan involvement includes a more confusing comment from Adriana Leoni who was in the front row during last November’s Buenos Aires NO gig. “You could see how happy Bernard and Hooky were” Adriana gushes. Er, sure you weren’t watching Madness the night before, by mistake, seniorita?!. B&H were snapping at each other from the second they stepped off the plane and I can’t recall a grumpier Barney on stage than at those South America gigs. But then perhaps I’m just pouncing and kicking, so lets put it down to first NO gig excitement and that when you Heart Barney, love is blind.

A thoroughly researched and highly readable account.

Well worth the £12.99 and available from Thursday August 30th (except for Borders on Oxford St who nabbed a few early copies and already have it in).

I wasn t watching Madness...but oF course LOVE IS BLIND !!!!

Cool Rewiew!!!!

Adriana Leoni Necochea Argentina

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I'm really looking forward to reading this one now. Sounds good.

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Had an email from Amazon this morning saying there is a delay with suppliers so the book will be delayed until 9th sept now.

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One niggle - And I've read the book through pretty quickly but I don't think Here to Stay was mentioned.

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Chris Clayson wrote: One niggle - And I've read the book through pretty quickly but I don't think Here to Stay was mentioned.

have you not read the discography ?

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The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote:

Chris Clayson wrote: One niggle - And I've read the book through pretty quickly but I don't think Here to Stay was mentioned.

have you not read the discography ?

OK, apart from there. As I said, that was on quick read through and I never read discography's anyway. I just thought it was worthy of mention as HTS was the last truly great NO single (to my ears).

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There's a fair bit of fodder in there culled from old interviews that I've never read before but to say it's an out-and-out biography of Bernard Sumner is stretching it to say the least.

The author goes out of his way to say it's not a blow-by-blow account of New Order's career but an in-depth look at Barney himself. As I read on and eventually finished the book I've come to the conclusion that essentially that's bollocks.

When I compare this work to something like Johnny Rogan's Morrissey book it so pales in comparision it's laughable. The birth of James - his first child - is mentioned almost in passing like it's not an earth-changing event and the subsequent 3 births afterwards are not even mentioned. :confused2:

A helluva lot is made of the Hacienda's money problems, too much in my opinion - that belongs in another book, not a Bernard Sumner biography. There is a quote from Bernard where he talks about his lyric-writing and how the words come from his sub-concious, however there is hardly no analysis of his lyrics anywhere in the work.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have and read this book than not have it and I understand because of his secretive nature that it must have been hard to research but to say it's a revealing biography of the man is bending the truth just a tad.

Saying all that, I'd recommend it to any JD/NO fan! :)

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Daniel The Boy B wrote: Had an email from Amazon this morning saying there is a delay with suppliers so the book will be delayed until 9th sept now.

Likewise, so cancelled Amazon and ordered via Waterstones (who, allegedly, have 10 in stock)...

:smoking:

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They're already selling them last week at the URBIS shop,£14.99 I think.

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tempted to buy it but...meh.i dont know.hey...

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Nick King wrote:

Daniel The Boy B wrote: Had an email from Amazon this morning saying there is a delay with suppliers so the book will be delayed until 9th sept now.

Likewise, so cancelled Amazon and ordered via Waterstones (who, allegedly, have 10 in stock)...

:smoking:

I got lucky then I suppose. Postie delivered my Amazon copy on Saturday. Just as well as no shops around here will be stocking this.

I've yet to read it though, he's been staring at me but I've been too busy.

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I have to agree - big song and dance about what the book isn't and then that's exactly what it is.

The biggest revelations were in the first chapter and after that it heads off into a compilation of clippings and interview quotes that we've all read before. Other than Bernards' replies it's nothing worth writing home about.

4/10 - drifted off the subject matter. A Member of the "na na na na-na" Forum.

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adchelle wrote: When I compare this work to something like Johnny Rogan's Morrissey book it so pales in comparision it's laughable. The birth of James - his first child - is mentioned almost in passing like it's not an earth-changing event and the subsequent 3 births afterwards are not even mentioned. :confused2:

)

Johnny Rogans book on The Smiths is beyond atrocious. Its one of the few books on music which i find to be unreadable. In many ways, its less of a music book than it is an anlysis of Irish immigrants in the 1950's. Very little attention is paid to the music itself and contains minimal interesting information.

Its surprising that so many books have been written on the two members of the Smiths, yet none of them are actually any good.

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I'm just finishing the Johnny Marr one and I've really enjoyed it. The Smiths and the Art of Gunslinging.

It's got pictures in it and everything.

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Uncle Liam wrote: Johnny Rogans book on The Smiths is beyond atrocious.

Did he ever end up in that M3 pileup Moz wished upon him?

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ally wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: Johnny Rogans book on The Smiths is beyond atrocious.

Did he ever end up in that M3 pileup Moz wished upon him?

Unfortunately not (and I've read the Smiths book - it's rubbish)...

He did write a subsequent book "Morrissey: The Albums", in amongst writing biographies on Neil Young and Van Morrison - haven't read any of those... :shrug:

:smoking:

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I thought Simon Goddard's Songs That Saved Your Life was excellent.

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Fac328 wrote: I thought Simon Goddard's Songs That Saved Your Life was excellent.

The first one is full of lies- which isnt a surprise considering its main sourceswere rourke and joyce.

The second one is just dull.

Amazingly, people write these books which are basically about Morrissey's lyrics, and talk to the people who had notihng to do with the lyrics!

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Not a good read.The author struggles for origial material,i'm fed up of reading about the Hacienda and it's money problems (not like it hasn't been done before).I feel sure that more could have written about the Electronic period of Barneys carreer.

I'm 140 pages in.Lets hope the end of the book is as good as the start.:thumbdown:

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Anyone seen it in a shop not in Manchester yet? I looked in HMV, Virgin, Waterstones and WH Smiths at Meadowhall at lunchtime to no avail!

Yes, i shall order it online instead.

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Edd wrote: Anyone seen it in a shop not in Manchester yet? I looked in HMV, Virgin, Waterstones and WH Smiths at Meadowhall at lunchtime to no avail!

Yes, i shall order it online instead.

SAME problem yesterday but they had 4 copies at the URBIS.thanks to MONTY he mentioned this at the weekend i think.Read the start of it sunbathing at THE SHAMBLES.It starts well but now it is a bit of a PLOD!Still may feel different by the time i'm finished.One or two of BARNEY's comments are CLASS.Maybe HE should have written a SHORT story.:nod:

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I got mine from Waterstones in Putney - there was only one copy

Decent book, could have been better. The last third or so was pretty boring, it turned into typical Hacienda/Gunchester/Electronic fare instead of covering new ground. Some interesting tidbits too though.

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And they are NO copies in BOLTON!:nono:

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quite enjoying it.

loads i never knew about the shitty way the Hass was run, and its early days. Gretton sounds like a bewt. like the Barney quotes too. Bernard: So Ian was a Nazi, Racist and a Paedo...

:laugh:

I'll give it a :thumb:

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Who knew that his real name was Boris and he lived up a tree for 3 years :abovelol:

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Only done the first two or three chapters so far. Really enjoying it, though to be honest, I know most of the stuff that's been written, obviously there are a couple of revelations not many people knew, but I won't spoil it for those who have yet to read it.

Barney's interactions really help the book along, found masel laughing out loud a couple of times :thumb:

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Loved the bit where Barney rips into Fast Car.

Lovely touch there :nod:

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Just attended the Nolan book launch and was accosted several times by inquistive revellers as to whether i was trainee fetish steve...will the real steve please make himself known...and if hes owt like worth his rep....show us yer dublins.....prefer the rhodes me self

transmission played a JD set....i was orgasmic with anticipation, apart from NO at mcr apollo thats it for JD songs in real life, good musicians...shit sound ...elementary set up cock ups caused unecessary fedback

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:laugh: Alright dude? I'm the girl that asked you!

I was put up to it by a Viking though!

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:laugh:

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Finished the book this arvo.

A definite "must have" but if you've been on the sites and collected the fanzines / cuttings / dvd's etc... over the years, don't expect too many revelations. Overall it was well put together and thoroughly enjoyable with several moments forcing me to laugh out. Barney attacking an American PR guy after a gig was one of those moments.

Again, the book is all the better for Barney's added on bits in the book.

And I believe Mr Nolan says this site has a

"Na na na-na-na" culture.

:laugh:

SPOT ON.

:viking:

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on page 115 .....JUST READ THAT BIT Shugzv with the RECORD SHOP OWNER..........arrogant! :lol:

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ShugZViking wrote: And I believe Mr Nolan says this site has a

"Na na na-na-na" culture.

:laugh:

SPOT ON.

:viking:

:nod:

I've only briefly skimmed through it, will attempt to read it over the weekend, when I've got a bit more time...!

But, definitely "na na na-na-na" culture! :laugh:

:smoking:

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with thanks to Joy Division Central :laugh:

but not NaNaNOOL

:laugh:

good read...barneys comments made it.

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"Na na na na na na na na Hey hey hey goodbye"

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vertical stripes.

:nonono:

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Nearly finsihed the book, excellent read for any NO fan. Barneys comments definatley make it more worthwhile, Nolan has been lucky that Barney decided to comment. Not sure about the authors favourite NO album being Republic and slagging Technique!! still eveyones entitled to an opinion....just like this one. Personally I think NO albums are for the better by not going fully into the dance camp or the indie camp.

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Tell you what though.....BARNEY HAS GONE UP in my estimation and i have always liked the guy anyhow.Bloody hell my life ain't been no holiday and neither has his.I just lost the plot and he bought a Yacht.:lol:

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I got my paws on this last month when I was in London and read it through pretty much straight away, which is unusual for me.

Good stuff, especially with the added comments from Bernard :nod:

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Some bits were more interesting than others, but do we actually know anything more about Bernard than his real name and his family background now? So much was glossed over, particularly the demise of Factory, and there were quite a few little things that were plain wrong (irrelevant to anyone but trainspotters I know, but the tour with the Smash Hits episode and Sarah joining them on tour was 86 not 85).

Then again, why would we want to know about his life away from the band anyway? I'd be much more interested in reading his and the rest of the band's comments on how things like the different records came about when they did, the bits behind the products we all have and by which we have a reference point.

It is a good read though, even if I was expecting a bit more.

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Mine has just this very second been delivered through the door from Amazon... :clap:

really looking forward to reading this one. Arrived just in time for a brassic weekend- Lovely!

BTW I'm sure it says the book is Hardback on Amazon but mine is paperback. Should I be suffering from issue envy? :(

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I've only seen paperback versions, so don't get too worried. Amazon have probably cocked it up again...

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I agree with oldmonkey.

Clearly the author put a lot of time into finding out about Bernard's upbringing, but there was a tangible lack of insight into the breakdown of New Order, both in the early 90s and the recent split.

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just finished the read JG.

quality:thumb:

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BIGINOIL wrote: Loved the bit where Barney rips into Fast Car.

Lovely touch there :nod:

That is indeed class...

I tore into this yesterday and read about half of it. Have to say I was getting a wee bit bored... Just as something was getting interesting Nolan skips ahead a few years.

And (this is just my anality BTW) I thought it could have done with another proof read as there seemed to be lots of missing quotation marks, which made it confusing as to who was saying what... There are lots of Here, hear, they're, their, your, you're errors- which really FUCKING annoys me. It's fine in blogs and emails and texts. But in a published book? Amateurs!!!

I know, just me :read:

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I have to agree with RichShan on the typos, made it very irritating to read. And a typo in the discography :nonono: As for the content, nothing too exciting there. A good read, no more than that, but definitely better for Bernard's input. And I was annoyed at the fact that Gillian's second daughter doesn't appear to exist according to the book. Two specific references to Gillian and in both only one girl gets a mention.

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RichShan wrote:

And (this is just my anality BTW) I thought it could have done with another proof read as there seemed to be lots of missing quotation marks, which made it confusing as to who was saying what... There are lots of Here, hear, they're, their, your, you're errors- which really FUCKING annoys me. It's fine in blogs and emails and texts. But in a published book? Amateurs!!!

I know, just me :read:

Nope, it's not just you.Annoys me also.Not read the book yet but it sounds like Nolan may need to catch up on some reading himself...

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