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All the ones I cant play bass to....no scratch that as it means nearly all of them.
In particular I dislike most of WFTSC except WFTSC and Krafty and I am finding most of the second side of Repulbic hard to listen to.
Some of the singles from 80's such as Shellshock are a musical / production after thought but they remind me of the best years of my life so I love them with a passion.
almansoglasnost wrote: I Told You So Such A Good Thing Chemical
Quite a few songs I agree with on this thread, some I don't. But "Such a Good Thing"? That is a classic song. Ah well, we can't agree with everyone. That would put the arms dealers out of business wouldn't it. 
Thieves Like Us Krafty & the one with Billy Corgan
dodgy mentions to various of the 1st side of Brotherhood (the out-of-tune sounding guitar-y ones) aren't great, From lowlife: Love Vig, Sooner than you think & Subculture aren't great either.
Why do people dislike "Chemical" so much? Not that it is a great track or anything.
Is it the kinda hard techno sound, and you don't like that? Or that the actual song ends up being so bland in the end, with the techno aspect neutered?
Jetstream - there's a few cracking remixes that redeem it. They really should've rethought that chorus. Oy!
Bizarre Love Triangle - sick to death of it, sounds crap live
Young Offender - bad vibes
Hard to choose actually, New order just dont really do crappy songs. Even Republic's not that bad.
Rock the Shack, Working Overtime and Slow Jam are AWESOME!! Why am I the only one who can see that?
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Major Tarantino wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
AgentWood wrote:
honourable mention to thieves like us
NOooooo!
Erm tough choice for me. Gonna do a top ten.
Here to Stay
Wow. I've never known anyone to be so totally wrong before.
:\ohwell:
I just find it uncomfortable hearing NO play over a poor Chems B side.
Like a marriage of two GREAT people going seriously wrong at the altar.
Major Tarantino wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Major Tarantino wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
AgentWood wrote:
honourable mention to thieves like us
NOooooo!
Erm tough choice for me. Gonna do a top ten.
Here to Stay
Wow. I've never known anyone to be so totally wrong before.
:\ohwell:
I just find it uncomfortable hearing NO play over a poor Chems B side.
Like a marriage of two GREAT people going seriously wrong at the altar.
OK.. to clarify this. As a massive fan of electronic music, I was disappointed that the Chems offered a song considerably weaker than 90% of their own output. The New Order contribution sounds tacked on, again poor in its own right. Basically, its two top acts coming together and sounding weaker than if either was on their own. Chart position said it all, it went straight in the top twenty and dive bombed, with hardly any radio play, whereas Crystal got loads. I can also imagine it sounding awful live too, which might be why they never played it.
I would say the opposite about 'Out of Control' though.
Think this topic has been covered before though. It's clearly a marmite track, more loved in USA than here, perhaps cos techno wasnt as big over there.
Knuckles wrote:
But i think given time some will grow on you, like Every Little Counts, first i was WTF? but know its so hilarious.
Well we've had 22 years. How long do you reckon we will need?
um, really difficult to choose 3 "bottom" new order track(s) 
, but i would say that "working overtime" would be, for sure is one of them.
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Major Tarantino wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Major Tarantino wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
AgentWood wrote:
honourable mention to thieves like us
NOooooo!
Erm tough choice for me. Gonna do a top ten.
Here to Stay
Wow. I've never known anyone to be so totally wrong before.
:\ohwell:
I just find it uncomfortable hearing NO play over a poor Chems B side.
Like a marriage of two GREAT people going seriously wrong at the altar.
OK.. to clarify this. As a massive fan of electronic music, I was disappointed that the Chems offered a song considerably weaker than 90% of their own output. The New Order contribution sounds tacked on, again poor in its own right. Basically, its two top acts coming together and sounding weaker than if either was on their own. Chart position said it all, it went straight in the top twenty and dive bombed, with hardly any radio play, whereas Crystal got loads. I can also imagine it sounding awful live too, which might be why they never played it.
I would say the opposite about 'Out of Control' though.
Think this topic has been covered before though. It's clearly a marmite track, more loved in USA than here, perhaps cos techno wasnt as big over there.
You argument has many valid points, thou I would not say "Here to Stay" is horrible... it is just kinda boring and mediocre which is a shame, considering the potential.
Don't know why everyone hates Jetstream so much. That Ana's a peach and I fancy her something silly... Agree that Liar's rubbish though. Worst song on their worst album? The fact it's got the same name as a Sex Pistols track is adding insult to injury...
0_o wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Major Tarantino wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Major Tarantino wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
AgentWood wrote:
honourable mention to thieves like us
NOooooo!
Erm tough choice for me. Gonna do a top ten.
Here to Stay
Wow. I've never known anyone to be so totally wrong before.
:\ohwell:
I just find it uncomfortable hearing NO play over a poor Chems B side.
Like a marriage of two GREAT people going seriously wrong at the altar.
OK.. to clarify this. As a massive fan of electronic music, I was disappointed that the Chems offered a song considerably weaker than 90% of their own output. The New Order contribution sounds tacked on, again poor in its own right. Basically, its two top acts coming together and sounding weaker than if either was on their own. Chart position said it all, it went straight in the top twenty and dive bombed, with hardly any radio play, whereas Crystal got loads. I can also imagine it sounding awful live too, which might be why they never played it.
I would say the opposite about 'Out of Control' though.
Think this topic has been covered before though. It's clearly a marmite track, more loved in USA than here, perhaps cos techno wasnt as big over there.
You argument has many valid points, thou I would not say "Here to Stay" is horrible... it is just kinda boring and mediocre which is a shame, considering the potential.
Of course, you are entitled to your opinions.
As long as you know that you are wrong :)
For the record i'd have Here To Stay in my Top 10 faves :p
Hurt (Cramp): sounds like Simon le Bon aborting a cat Video 586 (Prime 586): Zzzzzzzzzz Liar: Lacklustre
State of the nation is indeed shite, but personally I think world in motion was an attempt to make a new order fan genocide. It would save them loads of frustration, and we would be spared half of republic.
dt4 wrote: All the ones I cant play bass to....no scratch that as it means nearly all of them.
am finding most of the second side of Repulbic hard to listen to.
Some of the singles from 80's such as Shellshock are a musical / production after thought but they remind me of the best years of my life so I love them with a passion.
Really, for Republic..
Both Republic and Get Ready seem as bonuses, after thinking the Band had broken up.
I have another to add to my list, that i've forgotten. I have a very serious dislike for "Touched by the hand of God".
State of the Nation is crap. I am waiting to hear one single new order fan argue that one.
BUT, Touched and Shellshock rule. 12 inch versions of course. Come on! Put on some headphones, drop the needle, and listen to those 80s lyrics, and remember how f*ckin fantastic they were on release.
you guys are pathetic to take shots at those two songs.
and is there really any better video, ever, by any band, that beats out Touched....?
I have nothing against shellshock, I prefer it to state of sexual frustration as I call it. I just cant get into touched at all.
Tarbox23 wrote: State of the Nation is crap. I am waiting to hear one single new order fan argue that one.
BUT, Touched and Shellshock rule. 12 inch versions of course. Come on! Put on some headphones, drop the needle, and listen to those 80s lyrics, and remember how f*ckin fantastic they were on release.
you guys are pathetic to take shots at those two songs.
and is there really any better video, ever, by any band, that beats out Touched....?
Fuck off, you yank prick. State of the Nation is fantastic. Shellshock, on t'other hand, is the worst thing they ever did.
To reiterate: PRICK.
michael preda wrote: I have nothing against shellshock, I prefer it to state of sexual frustration as I call it. I just cant get into touched at all.
the song is grating and it doesn't age well--i remember liking "touched" when i was about 15 and now it's one of the few songs where to me the vocals cross the line into unlistenable.
But I have to say the video is so hilarious it almost makes up for the song's shortcomings--if you take audio and visual together it becomes tolerable and it therefore doesn't belong on this list.
shellshock may sound outdated now but it captures NO's flirtations with NYC in the 80's perfectly. Great song for the 80's. Shame of the Nation is much more interesting than its sister.
my bottom 3 right now:
Turn my way slow jam Turn- i really don't like it
Major Tarantino wrote:
coney island baby wrote:
Turn- i really don't like it
WHAT???!!!
i dunno why-- its sound a bit too american--kinda generic
PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote:
Fuck off, you yank prick. State of the Nation is fantastic. Shellshock, on t'other hand, is the worst thing they ever did.
To reiterate: PRICK.
ah, typical redcoat maturity.
