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Martijn de Blaauw wrote:

But, what i find funny is that now they have split-up (or something like that) they are going to put up an official website, quite ironic...but nontheless cool:thumb:

I was thinking the same. Nothing more "new order" than having the official website launched after the band splits. Classical....

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bass king said,"WE just havent decieded yet"

well,thats got to be viewed as positive, though is the we hooky and steve? typical order though to put up a web site at this stage:laugh:

ive lived my life on alcohol,,

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NO Regret wrote:

Erdel Kizilkay wrote: 4 years? without a drink?

I read in the Metro today that giving up drink is BAD for you. Seriously. It can cause depression. They did a test on mice. gave them all alcohol over a period of time. Then stopped giving it to half the mice. Then made them swim. Those that didnt swim much were deemed to be depressed, and also were the ones weened off alcohol.

Not much of a test I admit. But might have a point.

Don't be a dick, the mice wouldn't have got to the stage of alcoholism, which is when giving up, or throwing your life away are the only options. Well done hooky.

the thing that stands out from the interview is all the"we" in there, sounds like hooky may be back among the group? we can only hope.

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Jed Stephens wrote:

NO Regret wrote:

Erdel Kizilkay wrote: 4 years? without a drink?

I read in the Metro today that giving up drink is BAD for you. Seriously. It can cause depression. They did a test on mice. gave them all alcohol over a period of time. Then stopped giving it to half the mice. Then made them swim. Those that didnt swim much were deemed to be depressed, and also were the ones weened off alcohol.

Not much of a test I admit. But might have a point.

Don't be a dick, the mice wouldn't have got to the stage of alcoholism, which is when giving up, or throwing your life away are the only options. Well done hooky.

the thing that stands out from the interview is all the"we" in there, sounds like hooky may be back among the group? we can only hope.

well youre the expert! im just saying what scientists did. why wouldnt mice react to withdrawal symptons of alcohol? chimps do with drugs.

anyway. good for hooky if he feels better in his sobriety. i wasnt having a dig. i think its great.

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NO Regret wrote:

Jed Stephens wrote:

NO Regret wrote:

Erdel Kizilkay wrote: 4 years? without a drink?

I read in the Metro today that giving up drink is BAD for you. Seriously. It can cause depression. They did a test on mice. gave them all alcohol over a period of time. Then stopped giving it to half the mice. Then made them swim. Those that didnt swim much were deemed to be depressed, and also were the ones weened off alcohol.

Not much of a test I admit. But might have a point.

Don't be a dick, the mice wouldn't have got to the stage of alcoholism, which is when giving up, or throwing your life away are the only options. Well done hooky.

the thing that stands out from the interview is all the"we" in there, sounds like hooky may be back among the group? we can only hope.

well youre the expert! im just saying what scientists did. why wouldnt mice react to withdrawal symptons of alcohol? chimps do with drugs.

anyway. good for hooky if he feels better in his sobriety. i wasnt having a dig. i think its great.

Sorry about my harsh reaction, I'm no expert, just compassionate to people trying to overcome addictions

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It's kind of funny how much work Hooky is doing that involves New Order when he said he wasn't in New Order any longer. Maybe the boys are making some progress patching things up. Stephen should work for the UN....he seems to be better at mediating than most ambassadors are. I'd be so happy if they were able to patch things up soon. Still, he's putting more work into NO than Freebass, it appears. Head scratcher. He seemed so gung-ho before.

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Good to hear about the new website.. I would buy any thing (live, outtake, demo tracks) offered there in a heartbeat. I hope the quality of the tracks is high though.

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Great that there will be alot of interesting "new" old stuff released one way or another. Good to see that someone is finally showing some respect to the band's 80s past.

I kinda thought that Freebass was a little more further along.

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i couldnt give a shit about freebase, so there.

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Great stuff, Tim, thanks for that!

Looking forward to the reissues, the website, the five live discs, the unreleased WFTSC tracks... er... assuming any of that actually happens, of course. Fingers crossed, because it all sounds good.

I'm not surprised he couldn't answer several of the questions - I can't believe you lot remember some of that stuff! Fuck if I know what I was doing or where I was in October of 1983...

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That does sound a lot more positive than anything recently, although I doubt Bernard is involved much.

However,I'm not getting my hopes up, as Hooky did seem pretty sure they were finished, suppose it depends on what kind of finished.

I live in hope...

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have to love hooky....

the website sounds like a brilliant idea, I for one, as a collector of the boot, have oft wondered why bands did not follow pearl jam down this path -- make the live stuff available (good quality mind you) at a nice price via webdownload -- it's like free money -- get paid to play the gig, get paid by people who want to hear the gig later, only problem is you need to vary your setlists nightly to really make bank (hypothetically speaking of course, were the boys to ever play again.....)

great interview though... cheers

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79 order wrote:

bass king said,"WE just havent decieded yet"

well,thats got to be viewed as positive, though is the we hooky and steve? typical order though to put up a web site at this stage:laugh:

ive lived my life on alcohol,,

As ever, seven-nine hits the nail on the head.

See what I did there?

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Biginoil wrote:

79 order wrote:

bass king said,"WE just havent decieded yet"

well,thats got to be viewed as positive, though is the we hooky and steve? typical order though to put up a web site at this stage:laugh:

ive lived my life on alcohol,,

As ever, seven-nine hits the nail on the head.

See what I did there?

The one in the Re:Order thread is superb! :thumb: :spit:

:smoking:

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Good stuff TJ. On the subject of IALP, without wishing to be controversial, do we know that Ian actually wrote the last verse? It would be odd if NO wrote it considering the content but......you never know.

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[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote:

ShugZV wrote:

Tim wrote:

a) he doesn't drink

:brow:

:viking:

coming up to 4 years if you really must know! so put your eyebrow away?!

Doesn't he feel thirsty anytime? :rofl:

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Thanks for the interview, Tim.

Very interested to hear what becomes of the Sirens' leftovers.

:\pimp3:

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Yes good interview.Where did this take PLACE?:scratch: :hat:

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Arfur Fuscake wrote: Good stuff TJ. On the subject of IALP, without wishing to be controversial, do we know that Ian actually wrote the last verse? It would be odd if NO wrote it considering the content but......you never know.

I have often wondered the same thing.

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Bob Konkel wrote:

Arfur Fuscake wrote: Good stuff TJ. On the subject of IALP, without wishing to be controversial, do we know that Ian actually wrote the last verse? It would be odd if NO wrote it considering the content but......you never know.

I have often wondered the same thing.

Yes, Ian actually wrote something about kittens and rainbows in the last verse, but it would've completely ruined his street cred as a drab miserablist, so the demo is cut off and Barney re-wrote the last verse to bring it back in line with the mystique. Absolute fact.

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That was a great read, Tim. Good questions.:shades: Even if there's a number of Don't Knows, can't blame him. I'd like to see any of us remember (assumed) minutiae 30 years on. :D

This live stuff will be interesting to see come about.

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not a bad interview that with old hooky, must have caught the old git on a good day!

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Thanks Tim, nice interview :thumb: And the news seem too good to be true but I live in hope :nod:

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Thx Tim great well rounded interview!

Looking forward to the new Web site. It's about time New Order try and make some money. I just hope they don't release everything at once. (I would hate to spend my life savings in one day)

And if Djing pays the bills, Come back here I'll pay my ticket!

I would have liked a few more questions about the recent years, so since Peter's checking up, I will ask! Hopefully Peter or Tim ;) could answer.

  1. How about Revenge and Monaco material? The Revenge 2.0 was a hit. And I heard a DVD was in the works? How about a Monaco DVD? Maybe on the website?

  2. Why was Technique left of the last couple of tours? Round & round is a classic that deserves to be played with BLT and True faith.

  3. Any regrets on missing some great opportunities, 3 good examples are

A) The Confusion mix from the blade soundtrack and rest of. That song was played in every dance club every night for years. I would hear it on the radio for years. If you released it as a single with a video, it would have made the top 10 for sure.

B) Turn my way, This should have been a single (At least in N.America) Billy just left his band and people still cared about him. If you made a video, MTV would have ate it up

C) The control soundtrack (I will be honest, it sucked) New Order should have made a couple of songs and released a single. (These Days would have been a good choice)

Looking forward to the website and re releases!

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Tim wrote:

marcus mee wrote: What is this website of which he speaks?

work in progress, the plan is for an official new order website that contains live recordings for you all...

Can't they work with NOOL for that ?

Congratulations Tim for this interview. :thumb: ...but next time, take your iPod with you to play to Hooky the songs you are talking about :laugh:

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Didn`t know JD ever played Decades live. Could someone tell me the gig, place, date? And pass me the audio, if possible? :nervous:

Thanks anyway

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Server Error in "/" Application wrote: Didn`t know JD ever played Decades live. Could someone tell me the gig, place, date? And pass me the audio, if possible? :nervous:

Thanks anyway

Check out 'Still' :D

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Q9 What happened to that wonderful bass work on the demo of Dream Attack that was not included on the Technique release? It’s like the final version was almost the exact opposite, hardly any bass at all, yet the demo was the most fantastic bass intro.

A9 Well that’s the problem isn’t it? Ive not heard the demo send us a copy? so presume it was just mixed out ah well!

Does anyone have the Dream Attack demo??? I really wanna hear this now?

J

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Server Error in "/" Application wrote: Didn`t know JD ever played Decades live. Could someone tell me the gig, place, date? And pass me the audio, if possible? :nervous:

Thanks anyway

It's on 'Still', ya nobber.:nonono:

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