Anyone in the UK bought the Remasters yet?

Someone in Ireland reported that they had bought the remasters in a shop over there (they got the stock in early).

Sad to report he thought they were a huge dissapointment (although this was clearly not entirely unexpected!). This was someone who knows his onions in audio terms. Reported that the main albums had their EQ fiddled with to sound warm (but sounded like a blanket had been thrown over the speakers). Also tracks on the main album had variable rates of compression. I know -1 has posted some waveforms of selected tracks but this might not give the full picture of how crummy this CDs are reported to sound.

This guy was also dissapointed in the artwork - no tracing paper on Low-Life and reduced number of images on Technique etc Also the tracklisting for the Bonus discs is only on the disc not on the artwork (so once the disc is in the machine you have to guess what track comes next!)

Looks like London have excelled themselves this time.

No one is ever happy...what a surprise!

They will be far far better than the cheap Centredate/London issues we've been given for the last decade.

my pre orders have not yet been posted

Ally wrote:

I didn't see any Movements on the shelf...

hibster wrote: my pre orders have not yet been posted

HMV have posted ONE of mine...

"Sunrise" on "low life" has a huge volume dropout on the right channel at 2:30... unbelievable!!!!

Ally wrote: TBTHOG's intro is fucked, whoever mastered it should hang their head... there are audible gloops and skips in the opening hihat/keyboard sequence; would love to know how that passed quality control? The next track Evil Dust sounds like it was recorded directly from vinyl, I can hear the crackles or some sort of skip at the start and I'm sure it wasn't like that on the True Faith CDv. I use EAC on secure mode to rip music so it's not my work DVD drive playing up, I know that much.

Bugger, that's the same as on the promo CDR's (I received Brotherhood - the only one I bought - on Saturday) - I was hoping that would have got rectified before the official releases....

TBTHOG is very noticeable - a bit towards the beginning and a bit towards the end, and yup, Evil Dust (and no, it's not a b-side, Rhino... ), does sound a bit crap...

just noticed 'Mesh' (labelled C&W) has odd glitches throughout on the promo disc. Guess that will be present on the finished one when it finally comes out. I suspect it's delayed due to its 'Temptation' issues.

In France, it seems that the remasters will not be available until next week.

I pre-ordered mine from the UK and actually received them Friday. Technique, I am afraid, is a total wash as well. It's my favorite album of all time, and I am not even a huge New Order fan. The only songs that benefit are the "dance" oriented songs and even then it just sounds so compressed. Songs like All The Way seem louder but so much seems to have been lost in the mastering. They just weren't worth the conversion rate, that's for sure.

The bonus disc - I too can hear that it sounds like they ripped the songs from Vinyl. I can hear pops and a small "hiss", especially during Run 2.

This is just so sad as all my other favorite groups have had excellent remasters.

I received PCL too but haven't listened to it yet, and am actually afraid to as I don't want the same kind of disappointment.

You mean they've half arsed the re mastering?

What a massive surprise that is!

They cant even be bothered doing re issues correctly now. Speaks volumes.

Is the remastering really that bad? i knew they were going to botch the tracklist but i thought they would at least get the remastering right. doesn't anyone properly listen to them before they get pressed?! fucking ridiculous!

Ridiculous, but not in the least bit surprising.

what price are they in the shops ???

what price are they in the shops ???

To have it delivered to the States I paid USD 28.06 for each CD.

I just listened to Round and Round (Extended Mix as it has it listed) and almost had a stroke. I counted 4 pops/irregular static within the first 20 seconds. I am listening through BOSE Noise Canceling headphones right now. It's definitely a vinyl rip and it is atrocious.

Listen to the 15 second mark right before 16 seconds and tell me how any reputable company would allow that kind of glaring mistake. THEN...right before the 28 second mark and then at then right before 38 second mark.. Complete crap.

Colin Simpson wrote: what price are they in the shops ???

Apparently 14 quid from HMV...

I'm really looking forward to these now...

So, a lot of these mixes (on the bonus discs) sound as though somebody just pressed play on a record player (with a scratchy record), and recorded the result...

Marvellous... I could have done the same job at home...

They only had Low Life in our HMV. The others were missing in action.

These sound like they've been mastered from the Centredate cd's and not the er masters themselves. Might wait until the price drops for these.

Going off on a tangent I got the Still remaster a couple of weeks back and the accompanying booklet has half of Unknown Pleasures notes in it and half of I think what should have been Still's notes.

It sounds like an MP3 vinyl rip with a lot of compression. Trust me, I hate to report this.

£79 USB turntable anyone?

listening to the bonus discs of 'brotherhood', and 'movement' now.

yes, some of those tracks came from vinyl..

a full review for each disc coming soon..

plus more updates for 'power corruption and lies', and 'low-life'..

very disappointing..to say the least..

HOWEVER, if there is a miracle, they should pull the US release, and the other ones, and get them fixed first..

later -1

I listened to the whole Low-life album and bonus disc today and I habe to say this release is a massive disappointment. I even would advise anyone not to buy it. The original album has a massive mistake with a volume dropout on one channel during "Sunrise" for ca. 5 seconds. Unbelievable, this was flawless on Retro. It even doesn't sound very good as a whole. Turn up the volume on your original Factory CD and it sounds better and warmer. The tracks on the bonus disc sound mostly awful. "The Perfect Kiss" is complete, but has some clearly audible popps from start to finish. "Sub-culture" and "Shellshock" just sound shitty, more bass but also no presence. "Let's Go" sounds better than on the Salvation! CD at least. My advice: stick to your Factory CD, Substance and the vinyl 12"es, they sound better. I just can't believe this release passed the quality control of band, management and label. It's clear that NO ONE from them is only slightly interested in these releases. The booklet is a joke too: No information on bonus tracks, who's done the remastering, no add. photos from the cassette release, just ONE text. But nice lettering...

Just visited a certain p2p site. I'd support NO in any way i can but not this piece of slime record company.

Using vinyl transfers is beyond pathetic. Surely TBTHOG 12" was released on cd already, so why use a vinyl version? I've already done my own digitisation of all the vinyl stuff.

Maybe they just visited a p2p site themselves and downloaded mp3s of other people's vinyl rips and just burned them!

Knobheads.