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Peel Sessions/Live In Concert - 24-bit Japan Remasters?

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According to Esprit, "BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert" and "The John Peel Sessions" have been 24-bit digitally remastered and are going to be released on Christmas Eve in Japan...

Also, noticed that the 4xCD Retro Box Set is being reissued on 24th November... Guess they need some product out there before Christmas after pulling the recent remasters? :p

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Nick King wrote: According to Esprit, "BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert" and "The John Peel Sessions" have been 24-bit digitally remastered and are going to be released on Christmas Eve in Japan...

Also, noticed that the 4xCD Retro Box Set is being reissued on 24th November... Guess they need some product out there before Christmas after pulling the recent remasters? :p

:smoking:

Heart & Soul as well. In some sort of digi pack box I think. Can't remember where I read it though.:scratch:

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PHD wrote:

Nick King wrote: According to Esprit, "BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert" and "The John Peel Sessions" have been 24-bit digitally remastered and are going to be released on Christmas Eve in Japan...

Also, noticed that the 4xCD Retro Box Set is being reissued on 24th November... Guess they need some product out there before Christmas after pulling the recent remasters? :p

:smoking:

Heart & Soul as well. In some sort of digi pack box I think. Can't remember where I read it though.:scratch:

Ah yes, Esprit list that too "Presented in a Pozzol" (whatever that means?).

(The nearest that I could find via Google was this: "pozol is made by grinding boiled corn kernels to form the moist paste called masa, stirring the masa into water, and adding a pinch of salt or sugar")... :laugh:

Also, the Joy Division "The Complete BBC Recordings" is also supposed to have been digitally remastered and released in Japan on Christmas Eve...

Hmmm... :crazy:

:smoking:

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Nick King wrote:

PHD wrote:

Nick King wrote: According to Esprit, "BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert" and "The John Peel Sessions" have been 24-bit digitally remastered and are going to be released on Christmas Eve in Japan...

Also, noticed that the 4xCD Retro Box Set is being reissued on 24th November... Guess they need some product out there before Christmas after pulling the recent remasters? :p

:smoking:

Heart & Soul as well. In some sort of digi pack box I think. Can't remember where I read it though.:scratch:

Ah yes, Esprit list that too "Presented in a Pozzol" (whatever that means?).

(The nearest that I could find via Google was this: "pozol is made by grinding boiled corn kernels to form the moist paste called masa, stirring the masa into water, and adding a pinch of salt or sugar")... :laugh:

Also, the Joy Division "The Complete BBC Recordings" is also supposed to have been digitally remastered and released in Japan on Christmas Eve...

Hmmm... :crazy:

:smoking:

I think the pozzoli style packaging refers to the fact that you can cram 2CDs into one tray. This makes the packaging smaller and able to to be displayed in Megastore CD displays with normal single discs. Not sure how it works but sounds like a good way of scratching the discs - guess the original H&S box maybe a future collectable.

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Adam Tate wrote:

Nick King wrote:

PHD wrote:

Nick King wrote: According to Esprit, "BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert" and "The John Peel Sessions" have been 24-bit digitally remastered and are going to be released on Christmas Eve in Japan...

Also, noticed that the 4xCD Retro Box Set is being reissued on 24th November... Guess they need some product out there before Christmas after pulling the recent remasters? :p

:smoking:

Heart & Soul as well. In some sort of digi pack box I think. Can't remember where I read it though.:scratch:

Ah yes, Esprit list that too "Presented in a Pozzol" (whatever that means?).

(The nearest that I could find via Google was this: "pozol is made by grinding boiled corn kernels to form the moist paste called masa, stirring the masa into water, and adding a pinch of salt or sugar")... :laugh:

Also, the Joy Division "The Complete BBC Recordings" is also supposed to have been digitally remastered and released in Japan on Christmas Eve...

Hmmm... :crazy:

:smoking:

I think the pozzoli style packaging refers to the fact that you can cram 2CDs into one tray. This makes the packaging smaller and able to to be displayed in Megastore CD displays with normal single discs. Not sure how it works but sounds like a good way of scratching the discs - guess the original H&S box maybe a future collectable.

Probably done in a similar to the way they managed to fit 2 (or 3) discs in the recent Live in Glasgow DVD...

Actually, Depeche Mode did this with their 'Playing the Angel' release, with the cd and dvd in together.....

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Perhaps the BBC/Strange Fruit want to show Warner Bros how to do it?

I think these are standard CDs playable on any CD player. You'd think using 24-bit technology would be standard procedure when "remastering" CDs nowadays (except for the recent New Order set, which might as well have been from 8-bit mp3s).

Anyway, this doesn't look too bad: http://www.xrcd.com/tech/xrcd24a\_e.html

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Nick King wrote: According to Esprit, "BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert" and "The John Peel Sessions" have been 24-bit digitally remastered and are going to be released on Christmas Eve in Japan...:smoking:

Yes, But release cancelled...

http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=2809443

http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=2809441

http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=2809438

(click English)

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Doctor? wrote: Hands up who has a 24bit CD player?

Thought not.

Snake Oil!

:hi:

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Nick King wrote:

PHD wrote:

Nick King wrote: According to Esprit, "BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert" and "The John Peel Sessions" have been 24-bit digitally remastered and are going to be released on Christmas Eve in Japan...

Also, noticed that the 4xCD Retro Box Set is being reissued on 24th November... Guess they need some product out there before Christmas after pulling the recent remasters? :p

:smoking:

Heart & Soul as well. In some sort of digi pack box I think. Can't remember where I read it though.:scratch:

(The nearest that I could find via Google was this: "pozol is made by grinding boiled corn kernels to form the moist paste called masa, stirring the masa into water, and adding a pinch of salt or sugar")... :laugh:

:smoking:

EIL I forgot.:thumb:

Can't see many being sold however unless they chuck in the fifth disc which one or two people might not have.

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Doctor? wrote: Hands up who has a 24bit CD player?

Thought not.

Snake Oil!

What is a 24 bit CD player anyhow ? is this similar to SACDs ?

Just wondering....

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Nick King wrote:

(The nearest that I could find via Google was this: "pozol is made by grinding boiled corn kernels to form the moist paste called masa, stirring the masa into water, and adding a pinch of salt or sugar")... :laugh:

:smoking:

The sleeve is edible? :scratch:

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Burt Reynolds wrote:

Nick King wrote:

(The nearest that I could find via Google was this: "pozol is made by grinding boiled corn kernels to form the moist paste called masa, stirring the masa into water, and adding a pinch of salt or sugar")... :laugh:

:smoking:

The sleeve is edible? :scratch:

Eating could Damage the covers!get a DIET!:nono: :nonono: :read: :p :scratch: :rolleyes: :rofl: :shades: :shrug: :shy: :skeptic:

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Kevin Smith wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Hands up who has a 24bit CD player?

Thought not.

Snake Oil!

:hi:

You're the bugger who spends more on hi-fi kit than I would on studio gear though aren't you? ;) Still they're rare, most PC's should play it though.

And to the other chap, yes I belive SACD supports 24bit. All you get for your extra 8 bits is another 48dB of signal to noise ratio. 24bit is usually also sampled at 96Khz, adding more than an octave to the top of the frequency range (presumably in case your dog wants to listen, cos YOU sure as fuck can't hear up there), and doing all sorts of cool nyquist-related stuff to the stuff you can hear lower down (reduced aliasing/ring modulation, that sort of thing). But what was the original source material?

Was it a 24bit 96khz all digital mixer dumping straight to disk? In 1985? was it FUCK!, maybe an early portable digiral recorder working to 16bit 44.1 or 48khz. And as for the BBC stuff from what 81 and 82?..smelly old 1/4" ampex 456 that's over 25 years old, and has been "cared for" by the BBC....who can do wonders in getting genius ON to a tape....then leave it down the back of a radiator. At that age, it will need to have been in a proper tape safe or will be print-through city (likely quite bad even IF kept well), and the binding on the oxide is likely so degraded it'll play once and kill itself, leaving the tape machine needing sand blasted.

Will it sound "better" than the original??? hmmmmm subjectively maybe it will, but not as good as it would sound if it had really been made to that specification. Will there actually be something new added to it, brought out from the original? No. you cannot replace what has gone. You can try to shove it back in with effects, but it's just synthesis and distortion, nothing to do with hearing more of what New Order played.

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