New Order the biggest musical influence today?

ok its not a new topic, but what the heck. I want to say something positive about New Order after so many negative threads.

With PSB, Killers, White Lies on the scene would you say New Order are the one band that have the biggest influence on popular music today? quite a statement i agree. But when i think of Beatles, U2, Michael Jackson, Madonna Tiffany I dont see too many acts that follow in their musical style.

i could be wrong. i probably am and Im sure someone will tell me timberland, or other inflences music more today.

Could your really say that New Order is the main 80s influence? I don't think so. New Order's production style is not really much of an influence, and Bernard's awkward/unique songwriting style isn't that much of an influence. And hell, NO/JD has influences from Stooges, Velvet Underground, Can, Kraftwerk, euro disco, etc... where does the influences start or end? It's all a rich tapistry etc...

Bernard might have used autotune thou if he could have.

JD are more of an influence surely? Let alone Kraftwerk.

I'd like to think that New Order are a large influences for a lot of groups out now, but I rarely hear a direct connection to their music with what's out today. I see more music magazines using them as a reference point for any band that has a keyboardist and disco influenced drumming than anything else. Nine times out of ten, it doesn't sound anything remotely like them. The reason for that is most of the people making music now were teenagers in the 90's, rather than the 80's. What we're getting today is their interpretation of the 80's filtered through the commercial appeal of Nirvana, Green Day and Radiohead.

Not at all. Nobody has developed that bass sound and dance music doesnt have the brightness it used to. Far too warm and phat.

The last time I heard (for instance) Hooky´s bass-sound in another song was on Minimal from the Pet Shop Boys. Before that it was New Order themselves with Waiting For The Sirens Call.

I don't hear many New Order-influenced bands nowadays, even if they say so themselves.

I got the feeling that nobody DARES to sound like them, or worse: nobody CAN sound like them.

Anyway: time for the re-remasters.

maybe JD more than NO,

but NO's influence is more widespread

no-ones good enough to show immediate influence though maybe interpol, but they're still shite in comparason

Eric Clapton cites Bearnard as his biggest influence though Layla was influenced by We Wanted Lime

maybe JD more than NO,

but NO's influence is more widespread

no-ones good enough to show immediate influence though maybe interpol, but they're still shite in comparason

Eric Clapton cites Bearnard as his biggest influence though Layla was influenced by We Wanted Lime

Thanks for agreeing with me.:\ohwell:

NO are / were so good because they have a unique sound, a combination of all the members, remove one of them and the sound has gone hence why the solo projects will never match NO. Noibody can copy them but can be influecnded by them just as NO and JD were influecned. The best music to mne always sounds unique and you can tell what band it is from the 1st few chords even if you've never heard the track b4.

Luke wrote: The last time I heard (for instance) Hooky´s bass-sound in another song was on Minimal from the Pet Shop Boys.

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Déééliciouos!

Pineapple face wrote:

Luke wrote: The last time I heard (for instance) Hooky´s bass-sound in another song was on Minimal from the Pet Shop Boys.

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Nice stuff-does anybody know whether they have any more stuff out. Maybe a hint of how Gillian would have sounded doing lead vox with NO.

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Luke wrote: The last time I heard (for instance) Hooky´s bass-sound in another song was on Minimal from the Pet Shop Boys.

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Isn't this the band that was on Andrew Fletcher of Depeche Mode's label?

I think people are getting mixed up with influence and sounding like, being influenced by a band doesn't mean that you set out to sound like them, that may come across, but not always.

I'd say that new order influenced a lot of straight white males (particularly in the UK) to make dance music, before BM it was almost exclusively a gay thing.

Also, in a similar vein to the sex pistols, people will have been influenced by the fact that Barny is not a great singer/guitarist, but still got up and gave it a go, very successfully too.

Again people, myself included, have been influenced by hooky's bass sound and relatively simple but individual style, which can be heard all over many songs from the last five years or so.

I doubt they could go down as the single most influential band in music today, but they have done their bit.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

michael preda wrote:

Isn't this the band that was on Andrew Fletcher of Depeche Mode's label?

yep...they were the first band signed to his label...

...the only band signed to his label... and they've now left... Toasted Fletch...

indiearchivist wrote:

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

michael preda wrote:

Isn't this the band that was on Andrew Fletcher of Depeche Mode's label?

yep...they were the first band signed to his label...

...the only band signed to his label... and they've now left... Toasted Fletch...

Sweet action.

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Luke wrote: The last time I heard (for instance) Hooky´s bass-sound in another song was on Minimal from the Pet Shop Boys.

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That track by The Charlatans that was on their album last year was straight out of the NO book of, "How to sound like New Order but shitter".

Can't remember the name of it at the present moment, but it was the subject of a thread on NOOL at the time.

noorder wrote:

Pineapple face wrote:

Luke wrote: The last time I heard (for instance) Hooky´s bass-sound in another song was on Minimal from the Pet Shop Boys.

check out drive by client, starts at 1:54

That track by The Charlatans that was on their album last year was straight out of the NO book of, "How to sound like New Order but shitter".

Can't remember the name of it at the present moment, but it was the subject of a thread on NOOL at the time.

I do believe the track is called Mis-Takes.

noorder wrote:

noorder wrote:

Pineapple face wrote:

Luke wrote: The last time I heard (for instance) Hooky´s bass-sound in another song was on Minimal from the Pet Shop Boys.

check out drive by client, starts at 1:54

That track by The Charlatans that was on their album last year was straight out of the NO book of, "How to sound like New Order but shitter".

Can't remember the name of it at the present moment, but it was the subject of a thread on NOOL at the time.

I do believe the track is called Mis-Takes.

I stand corrected.

The song is actually called Bird/Mishaps and is predominantly a suckfest to Hooky's riffs:

noorder wrote:

noorder wrote:

noorder wrote:

Pineapple face wrote:

Luke wrote: The last time I heard (for instance) Hooky´s bass-sound in another song was on Minimal from the Pet Shop Boys.

check out drive by client, starts at 1:54

That track by The Charlatans that was on their album last year was straight out of the NO book of, "How to sound like New Order but shitter".

Can't remember the name of it at the present moment, but it was the subject of a thread on NOOL at the time.

I do believe the track is called Mis-Takes.

and there is 'the misbegotten' proper riff, but so is their whole catalogue, but at least they admit it

I stand corrected.

The song is actually called Bird/Mishaps and is predominantly a suckfest to Hooky's riffs:

NME

Delphic - Counterpoint Recent Radar stars Delphic whirl an obvious fascination for the Factory Records output of New Order and Durutti Column right into the present with the techno transcendence of Underworld and the euphoria of Friendly Fires. “Tell me nothing’s wrong”, pleads singer James Cook over aching guitars and strobing synths, and who are we to burst his bubble? For these six minutes, everything’s perfect.