Auteur Labels: Factory Records 1984 — Forum Archive

29 Mar 2009, 01:23

Nick King wrote:

musicoloog wrote:

Nick King wrote:

Old Blue wrote: So here we are, praising James Nice for still caring enough to give us something good to buy, then some fuckwit pops up with an mp3.

...but curious enough to listen to it, right?

Erm, no...

(Posting stuff that's just about to be released is out of order)

Yeah right, Mr. King, then how do you know what was behind the link...?

29 Mar 2009, 01:26

alright, guys. link has been erased and also the bad language. please keep the peace! now let's get back to the original subject shall we?

29 Mar 2009, 01:43

almansoglasnost wrote: alright, guys. link has been erased and also the bad language. please keep the peace! now let's get back to the original subject shall we?

Thanks almansoglasnost!

I've decided this is my last visit to this forum anyway: too much negative talk... Please move on folks, just like New Order, the lads, did...

29 Apr 2009, 00:52

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Auteur-Labels-Factory-Records-1984/dp/B0027HB9W2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1240991393&sr=1-1

29 Apr 2009, 12:35

Anyone willing to point out what makes this 7" version different?

29 Apr 2009, 14:08

michael preda wrote: Anyone willing to point out what makes this 7" version different?

Erm, it's shorter?

(Dunno, haven't listened to it, but I'd take that as a good guess)! :p :)

:smoking:

5 May 2009, 17:05

http://home.wxs.nl/~frankbri/ltm2534.html http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/ltmcd2534_auteur_labels_factory_records_1984.html

10 May 2009, 15:52

http://www.ltmpub.freeserve.co.uk/alfactoryrecords1984.html

:read:

9. ABECEDARIANS Smiling Monarchs 6.4712" single (Fac 117), released April 1985. Mixed by Bernard Sumner and Donald Johnson. :eek3:

11 May 2009, 11:50

Tokoloshe Man wrote: http://www.ltmpub.freeserve.co.uk/alfactoryrecords1984.html

9. ABECEDARIANS Smiling Monarchs 6.4712" single (Fac 117), released April 1985. Mixed by Bernard Sumner and Donald Johnson.

erm...so based on this link:

NEW ORDER Lonesome Tonight 5.12 12" single and 7" promo (Fac 103), released April 1984. Produced by New Order. Written by New Order (Warner Chappell Music). Recorded at Britannia Row. Engineered by Michael Johnson. Released under licence from Warner Music UK Limited.

we get the full length and not the edit?

11 May 2009, 14:07

The tracklist in this link is slightly rearranged from the one at the top of this post. Also, the Thick Pigeon track seems to have disappeared...

:shrug:

11 May 2009, 15:00

Lonesome Tonight was released on the flipside to Thieves Like Us, and was first performed live in June 1983. Steve Morris: 'It came into being as a result of a mild Elvis fixation. The live version of Are You Lonesome Tonight (the one where Elvis changes the lyrics to great comic effect and cracks up in hysterical laughter) was very popular on the New Order car cassette player at the time. I found it very hard to listen to without cracking up in sympathy with The King - and we all like a laugh, don't we? It was at a gig in Ireland I think, stuck for an encore, that Bernard had the idea of doing Lonesome Tonight. Not knowing how the tune goes has never held us back, so in the grand tradition of New Order cover versions we made something up and Bernard sang the Presley lyrics with the odd bit of swearing. We enjoyed it so much it became a semi regular item in the set. The lyrics and music evolved over time until all that remained was the title, which refused to go. I really love Lonesome Tonight, and like 1963 a great lost B side. Although live it could be a bit hit and miss, when it did work it was always fantastic.'

....if only we had a tape of this Irish gig.

1 Jul 2009, 08:58

Can anyone confirm it's the actual 7" version of Lonesome Tonight? Ordered mine a few days ago, but after seeing the Discogs entry I'm not that sure... :read:

1 Jul 2009, 14:57

I bought this. This Lonesome Tonight is 12" version, not 7".

Lost master tape? :shrug:

1 Jul 2009, 15:28

informan wrote: Lost master tape?

OF COURSE. :(

That's why the 2-disc sets are REISSUES, not REMASTERS.

2 Jul 2009, 05:55

In this case I can't see the point of complainments about sharing that version. I'd like to have a good quality rip myself. :thumbdown:

2 Jul 2009, 07:30

Because it was posted before the CD had even been released. I'm sure James Nice was DELIGHTED by the attempt to sabotage LTM's sales.

2 Jul 2009, 11:43

johnny james wrote:

Lonesome Tonight was released on the flipside to Thieves Like Us, and was first performed live in June 1983. Steve Morris: 'It came into being as a result of a mild Elvis fixation. The live version of Are You Lonesome Tonight (the one where Elvis changes the lyrics to great comic effect and cracks up in hysterical laughter) was very popular on the New Order car cassette player at the time. I found it very hard to listen to without cracking up in sympathy with The King - and we all like a laugh, don't we? It was at a gig in Ireland I think, stuck for an encore, that Bernard had the idea of doing Lonesome Tonight. Not knowing how the tune goes has never held us back, so in the grand tradition of New Order cover versions we made something up and Bernard sang the Presley lyrics with the odd bit of swearing. We enjoyed it so much it became a semi regular item in the set. The lyrics and music evolved over time until all that remained was the title, which refused to go. I really love Lonesome Tonight, and like 1963 a great lost B side. Although live it could be a bit hit and miss, when it did work it was always fantastic.'

....if only we had a tape of this Irish gig.

Was it one of the two dates from Cork?

5 Jul 2009, 12:57

Of course the 7" edit of Lonesome Tonight HAS appeared on CD...just take the full-length version from Substance and edit it down yourself. :D

There's nothing unique about it - I own a physical copy of that promo single. It's literally just a splice job.