Bad Lieutenant live in Paris, 4th of November

Tickets are already available and Barney gave an interview to the French magazine Les Inrockuptibles

I've never been to Paris. I am tempted to time my trip with this.

Since the brutal separation of New Order, one was without new of their singer Bernard Sumner. Who returns with a new group one, Bad Lieutenant, a new bass player – Alex James of Blur – and a concert in November to the festival of the Inrocks.

just finished the first album of Bad Lieutenant. Is this a moment of doubt or of relief?

I am, at least at present, of good mood. For a perfectionist as me, this is very hard to accept that an album is finished, that I not more can change such or such detail. Especially that on this album, all plays itself in the details. One does not imagine the work that claims an album. My buddies, that have normal works, think that my life is really easy, that all is only pleasure, that this is not really a job. Nevertheless, I have constantly the impression to push a huge boulder towards the summit of a mountain.

Was this work-site long?

Almost two years, with a sprint exhausting during the ten last months. To find the idea of a song, a good riff of guitar, a continuation agreed, is of course basic, but that represents only 10% of the work. Every member of the group possesses his own studio, one has not therefore passed a single day in an of these professional studios, that cost a fortune and that oblige you suddenly to finish your album in a granted time. We had not this pressure of the time or money: we have therefore passed days and days on details that can appear insignificant. The only limit, this is the size of his hard disc. Of a normal studio, one always frustrated spring. This emergence of the homes studios distressed to all never the music that one hears, she is clearly more complex, more artificial, richer in details.

Is she necessarily better? The urgency, can that have his charm?

Thank you, I have just passed two years of my life on an album, you find it pompous, surproduit? (Laugh)… With New Order, I systematically grated teeth while receiving our new albums: a true feeling of unfinished one, of same rush sometimes. There, at least, the album resembles exactly to what I had in head.

You realize that you recorded on almost five decades?

(Laugh)… Salopard. The years 70 do not count, I was a mioche, it was really the end of this decade and the years 10 did not even again begin… But it is true that to the era, I not at all envisioned such a longevity. It is frightful, and at the same time very satisfactory to be there since so a long time. It is wonderful to have passed more than thirty years to do this than I like the more to the world. Etre to remain creative so a long time, this is a miracle. For this is the unique reason for which I am again here: my creativity. This is an urgency, a drive that refuses to die – a very instinctive thing, that escapes me.

Did that show itself how at the start?

As early as the school. I was null in all the academic matters, particularly in maths and in French. I rediscovered myself cornered in a corner, where it is necessary for me to ask me this question: "I am good to what?" This is there that I realized that the only matters that I liked and where I shined, it was the drawing, the paint, design… I next channeled that towards the music. And when Ian Curtis is dead, I turned myself towards the word writing, for the first time of my life… I again never had measured the word responsibility, vocal melodies. Every time that I light my computer to write a text, I feel a very strong apprehension. But after several hours of work and of doubts, that becomes a pleasure – even if I forbid myself to recognize it. Leave nothing to 18 o'clock and have a text that touches on me 3 o'clock in the morning, this is a fascinating trip. This is a very solitary pleasure, especially after passing his life in group…

You wonder sometimes where you today if would have been quiet had not had the courage of all plate for Joy Division?

I there reflect often… I left the school to 16 years, without the least qualification, without the least goal. But I think that I would have finished a day in art school, to orient me towards design. I always was very visual. I have even, one does not know it necessarily, designé several of our envelopes. The diagram on the envelope of Unknown Pleasures of Joy Division, this is me that proposed it. But it was difficult to the era of Joy Division, then New Order: for political reasons, of sensitivity, I could not imply me as much as I wanted it in the visual ones… But with Bad Lieutenant, I have fun myself at last with this aspect also of the music – choice of the visual ones to typography.

Did that happen how, the end of New Order?

Our bass player Peter Hook left us the past year. I really cannot enter into the details, but… it had problems of alcoholism, did a course of treatment of detoxification and while going out, it decided that it hated us. That did the years that between him and me, there were problems of personalities, that did not go in the reconciliation direction. Our relation had become totally… irrational. We were very different people in the last analysis: we did not divide the same values, the same attitudes, the same humor… no longer were for Us of the all on the same length of waves. It became more and more choleric towards the group end, it was impossible to work together. One not more could bear itself, one hated all the ideas that the other brought to the group… I then decided that it would be maybe wise of at last slave over with people with which these I agree, with that that happens well. Kindness, this is nonetheless not poorly. I am too old and too happy to live with a type that does not like me, I do not want to leave to fade on me sourness and the anger of a colleague. It was very sad, but I could not continue under the name of New Order. Hook had me besides threatened process if I continued without him… I know that while setting off again under a new name, I get going again at the bottom of the ladder, that I will sell less than discs that under the name Joy Division or New Order, two groups that became very strong brands. But of another side, it is necessary to be honest, I work with again musicians, on of new tracks: this no longer is New Order. The group had attained its limits, his explosion was programed.

You continuous to work with the drummer, Stephen Morris, faithful since more than thirty years.

I could not happen me of his humor, of his eccentricity. This is an unbelievable, unique drummer. And then… this is a friend, a type in now. Unfortunately, even if it will play with us on scene, it was not able to record all the batteries of the album, for his girl suffered then of engrave health problems.

Who is part of Bad Lieutenant?

To the basis, this is a trio: Phil Cunningham, the former guitarist of the group Marion, that played with New Order since 2005, another guitarist Jake Evans, that plays since that it is 5 years old, and me. One passed months to play here, at my place. Next, we used four drummers, several bass players – of which Alex James of Blur and a French, Tom, that will be with us on scene.

You produced a lot of groups Factory, notably Happy Mondays, but never New Order. Did you play this role this time?

I effectively produced the album. To the era of New Order, we recruited producers of which the principal role was to referee the disputes, the ego problems between we. It was idiot, but necessary. If I had produced the least song of the group, Hooky would have accused me to pull the cover to me, to minimize his role. Have an argument on every his, every level of every instrument, this is exhausting. It is necessary that a single person takes the decisions, ends up to split: this happened on the album of Bad Lieutenant. This is the first time of my life that I work without the least tension and that was wonderful. These histories of big recorded albums to pulled knives, this is a myth. One needs not frictions to do the music. That renders just the infernal, detestable recording… I prefer the good ideas to the big egos.

The name Bad Lieutenant, is this your choice?

Yes, flown to this film disgusting Abel Ferrara… disgusting and very funny… A redemption history. A quest that I divide. Even if I do not think to have been a person as bad as that… I did the stupid errors when I was childlike: I thought only to have fun me, without being concerned me with the consequences. Today, believe me, I do clearly more blunders to me. In turned notably, I am passed several times to two fingers of the gulf. This is almost a miracle if I am living and healthy spirit today…

A huge novelty with Bad Lieutenant: the guitar solo. Was not that authorized with New Order? T

here already was, notably on Transmission, solos of guitar with Joy Division. The sound of New Order always was in evolution, for a sacred rule was of not to use bands: we discovered the synthés and the cans to rhythms in studio, tested with, then we looked for a means to adapt these tools to the scene. Bad Lieutenant is composed to the basis of three guitarists: it was a not very inevitable that it abandon the occasion.

Which is the calendar of Bad Lieutenant for the months to come?

We go go out the album October 5, I go therefore to rest me during some weeks, then we will repeat, for that does three years that I did not bring up on scene… already blocked Us our first date at the beginning of November, for the festival of the Inrocks, that will be a joy to rediscover the Olympia. To celebrate that, one will play some songs of New Order and Joy Division.

Missy Jem wrote: I've never been to Paris. I am tempted to time my trip with this.

me too,

i would eat the fuck out of paris too!

how big is the venue?

linus sulanki wrote: that will be a joy to rediscover the Olympia. To celebrate that, one will play some songs of New Order and Joy Division.

SHUT UP!

eskamiya wrote:

linus sulanki wrote: that will be a joy to rediscover the Olympia. To celebrate that, one will play some songs of New Order and Joy Division.

SHUT UP!

THAT'S FROM THE ARTICLE NOT ME, I JUST TRANSLATED THE WHOLE THING USING GOOGLE TRANSLATION MACHINE.

linus sulanki wrote:

eskamiya wrote:

linus sulanki wrote: that will be a joy to rediscover the Olympia. To celebrate that, one will play some songs of New Order and Joy Division.

SHUT UP!

THAT'S FROM THE ARTICLE NOT ME, I JUST TRANSLATED THE WHOLE THING USING GOOGLE TRANSLATION MACHINE.

And the transcription is pretty accurate for once

Geno wrote:

Missy Jem wrote: I've never been to Paris. I am tempted to time my trip with this.

me too,

i would eat the fuck out of paris too!

how big is the venue?

Olympia welcomes about 2000 people if the downstairs seats are taken away (expected) and has a three-to-five-row balcony).

We've already started looking at flights, accommodation, etc.

My only concern is booking something so early and them pulling out. It's a long time off yet.

Id really like to go but Im gonna wait as well and see the other dates. which should be revealed very soon.

i am so down for this.

anybody else from the US thinking of going?

Tickets....

Hmmm, tempted - Eurostar there and back...

linus sulanki wrote: Since the brutal separation of New Order, one was without new of their singer Bernard Sumner. Who returns with a new group one, Bad Lieutenant, a new bass player – Alex James of Blur – and a concert in November to the festival of the Inrocks.

just finished the first album of Bad Lieutenant. Is this a moment of doubt or of relief?

I am, at least at present, of good mood. For a perfectionist as me, this is very hard to accept that an album is finished, that I not more can change such or such detail. Especially that on this album, all plays itself in the details. One does not imagine the work that claims an album. My buddies, that have normal works, think that my life is really easy, that all is only pleasure, that this is not really a job. Nevertheless, I have constantly the impression to push a huge boulder towards the summit of a mountain.

Was this work-site long?

Almost two years, with a sprint exhausting during the ten last months. To find the idea of a song, a good riff of guitar, a continuation agreed, is of course basic, but that represents only 10% of the work. Every member of the group possesses his own studio, one has not therefore passed a single day in an of these professional studios, that cost a fortune and that oblige you suddenly to finish your album in a granted time. We had not this pressure of the time or money: we have therefore passed days and days on details that can appear insignificant. The only limit, this is the size of his hard disc. Of a normal studio, one always frustrated spring. This emergence of the homes studios distressed to all never the music that one hears, she is clearly more complex, more artificial, richer in details.

Is she necessarily better? The urgency, can that have his charm?

Thank you, I have just passed two years of my life on an album, you find it pompous, surproduit? (Laugh)… With New Order, I systematically grated teeth while receiving our new albums: a true feeling of unfinished one, of same rush sometimes. There, at least, the album resembles exactly to what I had in head.

You realize that you recorded on almost five decades?

(Laugh)… Salopard. The years 70 do not count, I was a mioche, it was really the end of this decade and the years 10 did not even again begin… But it is true that to the era, I not at all envisioned such a longevity. It is frightful, and at the same time very satisfactory to be there since so a long time. It is wonderful to have passed more than thirty years to do this than I like the more to the world. Etre to remain creative so a long time, this is a miracle. For this is the unique reason for which I am again here: my creativity. This is an urgency, a drive that refuses to die – a very instinctive thing, that escapes me.

Did that show itself how at the start?

As early as the school. I was null in all the academic matters, particularly in maths and in French. I rediscovered myself cornered in a corner, where it is necessary for me to ask me this question: "I am good to what?" This is there that I realized that the only matters that I liked and where I shined, it was the drawing, the paint, design… I next channeled that towards the music. And when Ian Curtis is dead, I turned myself towards the word writing, for the first time of my life… I again never had measured the word responsibility, vocal melodies. Every time that I light my computer to write a text, I feel a very strong apprehension. But after several hours of work and of doubts, that becomes a pleasure – even if I forbid myself to recognize it. Leave nothing to 18 o'clock and have a text that touches on me 3 o'clock in the morning, this is a fascinating trip. This is a very solitary pleasure, especially after passing his life in group…

You wonder sometimes where you today if would have been quiet had not had the courage of all plate for Joy Division?

I there reflect often… I left the school to 16 years, without the least qualification, without the least goal. But I think that I would have finished a day in art school, to orient me towards design. I always was very visual. I have even, one does not know it necessarily, designé several of our envelopes. The diagram on the envelope of Unknown Pleasures of Joy Division, this is me that proposed it. But it was difficult to the era of Joy Division, then New Order: for political reasons, of sensitivity, I could not imply me as much as I wanted it in the visual ones… But with Bad Lieutenant, I have fun myself at last with this aspect also of the music – choice of the visual ones to typography.

Did that happen how, the end of New Order?

Our bass player Peter Hook left us the past year. I really cannot enter into the details, but… it had problems of alcoholism, did a course of treatment of detoxification and while going out, it decided that it hated us. That did the years that between him and me, there were problems of personalities, that did not go in the reconciliation direction. Our relation had become totally… irrational. We were very different people in the last analysis: we did not divide the same values, the same attitudes, the same humor… no longer were for Us of the all on the same length of waves. It became more and more choleric towards the group end, it was impossible to work together. One not more could bear itself, one hated all the ideas that the other brought to the group… I then decided that it would be maybe wise of at last slave over with people with which these I agree, with that that happens well. Kindness, this is nonetheless not poorly. I am too old and too happy to live with a type that does not like me, I do not want to leave to fade on me sourness and the anger of a colleague. It was very sad, but I could not continue under the name of New Order. Hook had me besides threatened process if I continued without him… I know that while setting off again under a new name, I get going again at the bottom of the ladder, that I will sell less than discs that under the name Joy Division or New Order, two groups that became very strong brands. But of another side, it is necessary to be honest, I work with again musicians, on of new tracks: this no longer is New Order. The group had attained its limits, his explosion was programed.

You continuous to work with the drummer, Stephen Morris, faithful since more than thirty years.

I could not happen me of his humor, of his eccentricity. This is an unbelievable, unique drummer. And then… this is a friend, a type in now. Unfortunately, even if it will play with us on scene, it was not able to record all the batteries of the album, for his girl suffered then of engrave health problems.

Who is part of Bad Lieutenant?

To the basis, this is a trio: Phil Cunningham, the former guitarist of the group Marion, that played with New Order since 2005, another guitarist Jake Evans, that plays since that it is 5 years old, and me. One passed months to play here, at my place. Next, we used four drummers, several bass players – of which Alex James of Blur and a French, Tom, that will be with us on scene.

You produced a lot of groups Factory, notably Happy Mondays, but never New Order. Did you play this role this time?

I effectively produced the album. To the era of New Order, we recruited producers of which the principal role was to referee the disputes, the ego problems between we. It was idiot, but necessary. If I had produced the least song of the group, Hooky would have accused me to pull the cover to me, to minimize his role. Have an argument on every his, every level of every instrument, this is exhausting. It is necessary that a single person takes the decisions, ends up to split: this happened on the album of Bad Lieutenant. This is the first time of my life that I work without the least tension and that was wonderful. These histories of big recorded albums to pulled knives, this is a myth. One needs not frictions to do the music. That renders just the infernal, detestable recording… I prefer the good ideas to the big egos.

The name Bad Lieutenant, is this your choice?

Yes, flown to this film disgusting Abel Ferrara… disgusting and very funny… A redemption history. A quest that I divide. Even if I do not think to have been a person as bad as that… I did the stupid errors when I was childlike: I thought only to have fun me, without being concerned me with the consequences. Today, believe me, I do clearly more blunders to me. In turned notably, I am passed several times to two fingers of the gulf. This is almost a miracle if I am living and healthy spirit today…

A huge novelty with Bad Lieutenant: the guitar solo. Was not that authorized with New Order? T

here already was, notably on Transmission, solos of guitar with Joy Division. The sound of New Order always was in evolution, for a sacred rule was of not to use bands: we discovered the synthés and the cans to rhythms in studio, tested with, then we looked for a means to adapt these tools to the scene. Bad Lieutenant is composed to the basis of three guitarists: it was a not very inevitable that it abandon the occasion.

Which is the calendar of Bad Lieutenant for the months to come?

We go go out the album October 5, I go therefore to rest me during some weeks, then we will repeat, for that does three years that I did not bring up on scene… already blocked Us our first date at the beginning of November, for the festival of the Inrocks, that will be a joy to rediscover the Olympia. To celebrate that, one will play some songs of New Order and Joy Division.

is this the proper translation of the interview? somehow, it is almost translated in shakespearean era?

is there a descent translation out there?

Ah well, succumbed and bought a ticket just in case... :)

How can anyone not love the translation of that interview. Personally, I imagine it is pretty much verbatim. Thus:

"Did that happen how, the end of New Order?Our bass player Peter Hook left us the past year. I really cannot enter into the details, but… it had problems of alcoholism, did a course of treatment of detoxification and while going out, it decided that it hated us."

Bad Lieutenant? Bad Gollum, more like.

Better place to buy tickets! :p

Here...

Cheers Linus

Barney seems to have gone into alot of detail about his riff with Hooky. Facinating insight and very eloquently put by Barney. Interesting.

cheers Al

Nick King wrote: Better place to buy tickets! :p

Here...

Some weird and wonderful events on at that venue. Love the fact you can book tickets to see "Dave" in April 2010. Who the fook is Dave?

Ger Boy wrote:

Nick King wrote: Better place to buy tickets! :p

Here...

Some weird and wonderful events on at that venue. Love the fact you can book tickets to see "Dave" in April 2010. Who the fook is Dave?

Dunno, but I want to go and see Scooby Doo! :)

Wow! Barney breaks the silence at last!

BUGGER! Can't they bring it forward a bit? I'm gonna be knee-deep in nappies!

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote: "Did that happen how, the end of New Order?Our bass player Peter Hook left us the past year. I really cannot enter into the details, but… it had problems of alcoholism, did a course of treatment of detoxification and while going out, it decided that it hated us."

Well.... I'm in, unless they announce loads of bloody dates all over UK.

Besides, I'd get to meet Gentleman Jiphy, and be able to extend the entente cordial hand of friendship.

Are we to expect a myspace blog retort to the bernard statement!? We'll soon see!

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote: How can anyone not love the translation of that interview. Personally, I imagine it is pretty much verbatim. Thus:

"Did that happen how, the end of New Order?Our bass player Peter Hook left us the past year. I really cannot enter into the details, but… it had problems of alcoholism, did a course of treatment of detoxification and while going out, it decided that it hated us."

well, then... that explains why peter hook's playing his (b)ass with spread-out legs to balance himself from tipping-over!

Ger Boy wrote:

Nick King wrote: Better place to buy tickets! :p

Here...

Some weird and wonderful events on at that venue. Love the fact you can book tickets to see "Dave" in April 2010. Who the fook is Dave?

hey i've put a lot of work into that gig

El Jarvo wrote: Er, are they supporting Bat for Lashes?

are they? it just got more tempting!

I've just booked four tickets, I've got the second row in the second section. I had originally got middle row in the front section but my dongle lost it's signal - grrr!

Reet, looks like I'd better get planniing. Reckon arrive on the day of the gig and have a day or two after for touristy stuff.

Jobs a good un!

I just went for Category 1 rather than 2. It showed a flashing thing in the seating areas. Bloody hell, I hope I've not booked seats and it's standing!

i'll need seats as lyn will be going too will need two - want to see if you can swap the other two for general & give me your two?

should hopefully be recieving some complimentaries for this gig very soon,dont think i'll be able to make it so may have some to give away on my site

http://neworderinfoweb.piczo.com

hibster wrote: i'll need seats as lyn will be going too will need two - want to see if you can swap the other two for general & give me your two?

OK Hibs, if you could get 2 standing and I'll swap you. The other 2 claimants of my tickets will have to sit.

El Jarvo wrote: Olympia's a cracking little venue, but it's a Wednesday. Bit of a shit night really.

Besides, the album might well be awful yet (look at the last two Electronic albums )

Be interesting to see how many Yookay gigs they do though. And what size venues.

I have to keep reminding myself 'this is not New Order, and I really shouldn't be that arsed.'

I wouldn't exactly call the 2nd and 3rd Electronic albums awful...maybe I'm a bit biassed as a fan, but those two albums certainly aren't as bad as some of the non-NO related pop mainstream stuff out there.

If they come to Japan, I'd be interested, but I'll be very busy next year. I'm aware Hooky came to Japan for the Summer Sonic rock festival as a DJ back in 2007. (I couldn't go to the festival, though.)

hmm, has seats downstairs in that pic. & a mezzanine & a balcony level

going for 2 seats can get mezzanine & the view looks much better there, may well do this instead then, soz!

you could probably do the old switcheroonee if it is standing downstairs anyway

yeah tried there just to see & it said orchestra standing, or something like that.

is it possible to pull the brixton academy style swap - meet in bar & get in downstairs with friends who are already inside's tickets?

Are they gonna fill a venue that size? In Glasgow I reckon they'd be good for at the very best, 500-600 people unless this album is something special which, as we all know, it wont be. Electronic couldn't manage to sell out two nights at the Barras when they played at the height of their (relatively substantial) success.

Al, have you ever heard the story about the time I NEARLY saw New Order in Paris?....;)

eskamiya wrote: Id really like to go but Im gonna wait as well and see the other dates. which should be revealed very soon.

i am so down for this.

anybody else from the US thinking of going?

Gotta check on my personal leave balance... but hell, yeah. Air fare & hotels are cheaper that time of year- a plus.

They'll remove the sits downstairs for the festival at the Olympia, as they usually do for this kind of events… anyway they'll be some 'moves' between the sets so buy the cheapest ticket except if you want to be sure to have a sit

Lordsy (Bernd) and Me are in, too.

I really hope they come to the US.

El Jarvo wrote: Er, are they supporting Bat for Lashes?

No f***g way

El Jarvo wrote: I'd been up seeing a berd cos ACR played King Tut's the very same weekend.

Bet the guest list was better than Saturday nights which was "someone".

...ok - I've never heard them, will probably never buy anything by them, and I just this weekend gone protested to my brother that I wasn't interested, but for some reason I've just bought a ticket!....

El Jarvo wrote:

GlasVegas wrote: Al, have you ever heard the story about the time I NEARLY saw New Order in Paris?....;)

Er, yes. I didn't want to mention it. I remember Johan on the phone saying you hadn't taken your guest-list wondering where the fack you were!!

Electronic only played one night at the Barras. It was a Monday in December and was -6 outside. It was facking mobbed though!! I caught a train straight back to London around midnight. I'd been up seeing a berd cos ACR played King Tut's the very same weekend.

Are you sure it was only one night? I've got it in my head it was two. And yep, it was mobbed, but defineately not a sell out as my burd at the time decided to come at the last minute cos there were still tickets on the door.

A popular chant on the night was

'Lets all have a barney Lets all have a barney Na na na na OOOFT Na na na na OOOFT'

That Glaswegian humour eh? Cracks me up every time. And at least 60% of the crowd were wearing Smiths t-shirts.

That was my first ever New Order related gig that was.

That's was a tough read, google translation I presume? Anyway a lot of interesting stuff and I'm looking forward to the album a lot more now. I think I'll wait to hear until I buy it this time. :)

Ally wrote:

(I work for a French company before anyone starts )

witch one?

Ally wrote: I work for a French company

I feel your pain...

Ger Boy wrote:

Nick King wrote: Better place to buy tickets! :p

Here...

Some weird and wonderful events on at that venue. Love the fact you can book tickets to see "Dave" in April 2010. Who the fook is Dave?

Dave is a singer from Netherland very well known in France since the seventies(he speaks and sings in french).

Surf Western wrote: That's was a tough read, google translation I presume?

No, that's pretty much how Barney speaks these days. He reads a lot of the great French intellectuals, and it shows.

It's no accident that he's debuting the band in Paris, you know.

He's even got an "acquired" French accent, FFS!

Haha, nice. Regardless you can still get the jist of what he's saying, and that's all that I care about. I wish I could be going to Paris to see them, I never got to see NO or anything. So, chances they'll play the US- 0, but it sounds like this will be a good record.

So what do you expect? What will Barney do? Sing a few songs while the other guy sings most of the Bad Lt songs, then Barney sings a few "classics" at the end of the show? Will Barney play lead guitar? Will he just hang out while the younger guys do the heavy lifting?

Do you really expect a long tour? Barney hates long tours, and there may be limited interest

New Order without Hooky. Deep fucking joy.

Diamond 383 wrote: New Order without Hooky. Deep fucking joy.

For the uninitiated, Colin is being facetious. he is probably grumpy and hungover. He knows full well that this is little more than an excuse to drink beer all day in gay Paris, and that the "music" is a mere sideshow.

If I manage to haul my hairy arse off the dole and back into gainful employment, I hope to be there with or without a ticket for Bernard's little plaything. As, I suspect, will the aforementioned Diamond Geezer.

Royser should be in the house.

Or dans la maisson, or whatever.

What days/dates is everyone arriving and leaving on? I'll be travelling solo.

El Jarvo wrote:

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote:

Diamond 383 wrote: New Order without Hooky. Deep fucking joy.

For the uninitiated, Colin is being facetious. he is probably grumpy and hungover. He knows full well that this is little more than an excuse to drink beer all day in gay Paris, and that the "music" is a mere sideshow.

He does have a point though

I can't excited about Barney on karaoke. :(

I can't get excited about Revenge playing sub-reggae tripe either, but I'll doubtless still be at the first Freebass gig.

As for "Barney on karaoke".....please refer to every New Order gig since new member "the autocue" joined.

Ally wrote: It's a few beers and a trip to Paris.

Sounds good to me..

GlasVegas wrote: What days/dates is everyone arriving and leaving on? I'll be travelling solo.

We're looking at Tuesday - Friday or Wednesday to Saturday. I'll see what the prices are like, and also what everybody else is doing.

I've mailed Olympia, I have to book my tickets again and they will cancel the original ones - phew!

So, to clarify, Category 2 tickets at 34 Euros - right????

I've got a hen night to go to in London on the Friday so I'm looking at coming out by eurostar on the Wednesday morning and heading back Thursday afternoon.

UGH! I wish I could go...

Missy Jem wrote:

GlasVegas wrote: What days/dates is everyone arriving and leaving on? I'll be travelling solo.

We're looking at Tuesday - Friday or Wednesday to Saturday. I'll see what the prices are like, and also what everybody else is doing.

I've mailed Olympia, I have to book my tickets again and they will cancel the original ones - phew!

So, to clarify, Category 2 tickets at 34 Euros - right????

if i can gather the funds, im there solo too, sooo just to clarify Jem - Category 2 is standing right?

Missy Jem wrote:

GlasVegas wrote: What days/dates is everyone arriving and leaving on? I'll be travelling solo.

We're looking at Tuesday - Friday or Wednesday to Saturday. I'll see what the prices are like, and also what everybody else is doing.

I've mailed Olympia, I have to book my tickets again and they will cancel the original ones - phew!

So, to clarify, Category 2 tickets at 34 Euros - right????

glad you got that sorted.

we're flying over on the 3rd, spending a few days in paris & then going to toulouse to visit my brother.

NB should't this be in ceremony now?

Eurostar is only £30 out and just takes 2.5 hours, tempting, the start could be a session in London on Tues night, I can't get prices for Saturday coming back it is too far in advance.

GlasVegas wrote: What days/dates is everyone arriving and leaving on? I'll be travelling solo.

Arrive Tuesday or Wednesday, back Saturday or Sunday. Looks like you'll have to go Tuesday night, as the Wednesday from Glasgow is too late. Shouldn't have to pay more that £40 return though mate.

Ess wrote: Eurostar is only £30 out and just takes 2.5 hours, tempting, the start could be a session in London on Tues night, I can't get prices for Saturday coming back it is too far in advance.

Wait a couple of days - Saturday will appear...!

When I checked on Tuesday, they had only just allowed booking for the 5th... On Wednesday, the 6th appeared...

So, in theory, Saturday will be there either later on today or tomorrow! :)

Dunno when I'm going up - probably Wednesday afternoon, and then back on the Thursday at some point... At the moment, I'm thinking a half-day holiday on the Wednesday afternoon and then a half-day holiday on the Thursday morning...

Good to see the NO spirit is still alive; a revelatory interview written up in a foreign language and the inaugaral show on foreign soil!

Can anyone recommend a good hotel in the area?

Canadia wrote: Can anyone recommend a good hotel in the area?

Ones near the venue will be tres tres expensive. Infact, hotels in Paris are expensive in general. Oh, and usually shit too!

There's tonnes of options on the Hotel Ibis site as I recall. I stayed in a nice one in Monmartre for 50 EUR a night. Good location, decent hotel.

GlasVegas wrote: There's tonnes of options on the Hotel Ibis site as I recall. I stayed in a nice one in Monmartre for 50 EUR a night. Good location, decent hotel.

Ah Monmartre, the red-light district. Wasn't it you that posted about brothels in Krakow, G...?!

If you go to their myspace page, they have a new blog entry called "Never Cry Another Tear" and they have nice pictures and story about their new video.

http://www.myspace.com/badlieutenantmusic

Dunno when I'm going up - probably Wednesday afternoon, and then back on the Thursday at some point... At the moment, I'm thinking a half-day holiday on the Wednesday afternoon and then a half-day holiday on the Thursday morning...

Cheers Nick

I was looking at the 9am eurostar on Wed, get in for lunch, check in and get on it. Saying that depending on my travel mates I may already be on it at 9am!

Ess wrote:

Saying that depending on my travel mates I may already be on it at 9am!

I might travel out with you but I'm definitely staying for at least two more days to do the touristy stuff.

Geno wrote:

if i can gather the funds, im there solo too, sooo just to clarify Jem - Category 2 is standing right?

Yessum!

Let me know if you get a ticket and I'll keep you in the loop about travel arrangements.

Wife...

(I can't do that quote thingy!)

Well in that case I will order a case of red for the journey now ;)

I am staying on for a couple of days as well, as usual there is a list of things I want to do!

Bar Eiffel Tower Bar Champs Elysees Bar Catacombs Bar Notre Dame Cathedral Bar Arc De Triomphe Bar Catacombs Bar

Pretty much what we did in Rome but with different attractions

Missy Jem wrote:

Ess wrote:

Saying that depending on my travel mates I may already be on it at 9am!

I might travel out with you but I'm definitely staying for at least two more days to do the touristy stuff.

Eurostar for £30, or flights from Manchester for £35. Hmmmm, me thinks you girls drank too much last night!

I might fly back to Liverpool too. £30-ish, and get to spend most of the day in Paris, rather than a 9am back to Manchester.

I know flying is easier and quicker, but I've never been on the Eurostar and it's on my 'Things to do' list.

Jem....

You forgot one thing... the Moulin Rouge!

Paul...

I am with Jem about the Eurostar and it will save on taxi costs etc as (I think) it puts you right in the centre... and I might not be travelling from Manchester anyway

Missy Jem wrote: Bar Eiffel Tower Bar Champs Elysees Bar Catacombs Bar Notre Dame Cathedral Bar Arc De Triomphe Bar Catacombs Bar

Pretty much what we did in Rome but with different attractions

bar champs elysees/ arc de triomphe bar would remove one of those pesky steps in between bars. & don't forget pere lachaise the cemetary

Ess wrote: Jem....

You forgot one thing... the Moulin Rouge!

Paul...

I am with Jem about the Eurostar and it will save on taxi costs etc as (I think) it puts you right in the centre... and I might not be travelling from Manchester anyway

I agree, I'd enjoy getting lashed up on the Eurostar, but, afterall, it is just a train, and it does just go under a tunnel! That, combined with a 2.5 hour train journey to London beforehand, plus travelling to Manchester first, kinda makes my mind up!

OK but remember, whoever is absent is the one we bitch about

Not worried about places to sleep but to drink. No french fooking wine this time again! Bad remembrance from Paris 2002

Ess wrote: Jem....

You forgot one thing... the Moulin Rouge!

You're on your own kid!

Missy Jem wrote:

Ess wrote: Jem....

You forgot one thing... the Moulin Rouge!

You're on your own kid!

Nah! Too expensive to get in and watch a few legs

Stay and watch Bat For Lashes' set and chant NU ORDAH! NU ORDAH! all through to really annoy Natasha Khan.

I've ordered a ticket but whether I'll manage to go is another thing cos we're not allowed time off during the first five working days of each month. Someone suggested taking the TGV and just go there and back in one night, but it is still a couple hours to get there. And my experience with gigs near home is not a good one :( I'll just have a do a UK one, that's never been a problem :)

Milk just booked us tickets on the 09.01 Eurostar on 4th returning on the 18.43 on 5th.

El Jarvo wrote:

Mrs Milky wrote: Milk just booked us tickets on the 09.01 Eurostar on 4th returning on the 18.43 on 5th.

"Booked us tickets"??

They not letting him drive the choo-choo train then?

Aww.

Yeah.. me & im... & sadly no.. he has to take a seat like everyone else..

my ticket has arrived already!!!

dave clark wrote: my ticket has arrived already!!!

Likewise - now to book a Eurostar train... :)

I am definitley travelling on the eurostar, I am going to book it in a week a so. Probably the 9am on the Wednesday.

I am definitley travelling on the eurostar, I am going to book it in a week a so. Probably the 9am on the Wednesday.

Ess wrote: I am definitley travelling on the eurostar, I am going to book it in a week a so. Probably the 9am on the Wednesday.

Do you have to leave so blooming early?

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Ess wrote: I am definitley travelling on the eurostar, I am going to book it in a week a so. Probably the 9am on the Wednesday.

Do you have to leave so blooming early?

Don't worry, I won't be leaving until about 2'ish! :)

Done.

Wednesday: Travelling up on the 12:29 - 15:30 Thursday: Travelling back on the 11:13 - 12:29

60 quid return, not bad, and only two half-days off! :)

not liking the eurostar site times me out after 30 seconds or so & then when re-enter details says the tickets will be available from august some time - despite having them underlined in the calendar as available!

aha - that's if i try to book from bristol, if i go from londres it's available...

Booked

Any new Viking's badges for this event???

I have booked a room for one night for Bernd, Matthias and me in the Hotel Montholon *** (15 rue de Montholon, 75009 , Paris - 9. Arr. -> Opéra-St Lazare) for 110 € including breakfast. It's a 10 minutes walk to the venue.

MAP

confusion wrote: I have booked a room for one night for Bernd, Matthias and me in the Hotel Montholon *** (15 rue de Montholon, 75009 , Paris - 9. Arr. -> Opéra-St Lazare) for 110 € including breakfast. It's a 10 minutes walk to the venue.

MAP

Right result - that's not too far away from Gare du Nord (where the Eurostar gets in)... :)

I now have gig ticket booked and myself and Ess are booking our eurostar together next weekend when she's down, but we're getting an early on the Weds coming back Saturday (i think that's what we agreed)

The last time I was in Paris (2006) I got us tear gassed by the French Police after I got in an altercation, but am sure they don't remember me so we'll be ok!

El Jarvo wrote:

confusion wrote: I have booked a room for one night for Bernd, Matthias and me in the Hotel Montholon *** (15 rue de Montholon, 75009 , Paris - 9. Arr. -> Opéra-St Lazare) for 110 € including breakfast. It's a 10 minutes walk to the venue.

Good location. We stopped at the Ibis near there, on La Fayette, for New Order in 2001.

I'm heading out on the 9am, back on the same train as Nickos.

Unfortunately, the Ibis on La Fayette is fully-booked already... :(

So, shall we go with the hotel that the German Order are staying in? :)

(although, rooms are going fast - "only 4 rooms left")...

Nick King wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

confusion wrote: I have booked a room for one night for Bernd, Matthias and me in the Hotel Montholon *** (15 rue de Montholon, 75009 , Paris - 9. Arr. -> Opéra-St Lazare) for 110 € including breakfast. It's a 10 minutes walk to the venue.

Good location. We stopped at the Ibis near there, on La Fayette, for New Order in 2001.

I'm heading out on the 9am, back on the same train as Nickos.

Unfortunately, the Ibis on La Fayette is fully-booked already... :(

So, shall we go with the hotel that the German Order are staying in? :)

(although, rooms are going fast - "only 4 rooms left")...

dont mind sharing if anyone else is up for it

Bonzette wrote:

The last time I was in Paris (2006) I got us tear gassed by the French Police after I got in an altercation, but am sure they don't remember me so we'll be ok!

Stealing handbags?

The Village wrote: I really hope they come to the US.

Keep hope alive...

-Water Rat-

OK 115 from Manchester Airport via Air France... or I could go by train, but they're not available yet. Any other choices? PeteZ

PeteZarustica wrote: OK 115 from Manchester Airport via Air France... or I could go by train, but they're not available yet. Any other choices? PeteZ

you could swim.....

Burt Reynolds wrote:

PeteZarustica wrote: OK 115 from Manchester Airport via Air France... or I could go by train, but they're not available yet. Any other choices? PeteZ

you could swim.....

Google will even give directions!

sink or swim?

Burt Reynolds wrote: sink or swim?

If I SWIM that much I will definitely SINK.

Bonz and me are on the Eurostar on Wed at 9am and coming home on Sat at 4pm

Ess wrote: Bonz and me are on the Eurostar on Wed at 9am and coming home on Sat at 4pm

Whoosh, Whoosh - Warning, Warning!

El Jarvo wrote:

Ess wrote: Bonz and me are on the Eurostar on Wed at 9am and coming home on Sat at 4pm

Which carriage?

So I know which one to avoid.

Carriage 17 brother. And we're doing a Champagne breakfast journey.

El Jarvo wrote:

Bonzette wrote: Carriage 17 brother. And we're doing a Champagne breakfast journey.

Shit.

Me too.

I've got a good book I was saving for that journey. :(

What a bitch! Still, there's always the journey home?! :)

Spotnick wrote:

Anyways, if I ever do this

... Do it

It will be just over 3 years since we last saw you!

Spotnick wrote:

Missy Jem wrote: Bar Eiffel Tower Bar Champs Elysees Bar Catacombs Bar Notre Dame Cathedral Bar Arc De Triomphe Bar Catacombs Bar

Pretty much what we did in Rome but with different attractions

Looks like an interesting planning

Good thing is, even drunk I can understand what people will say to me.

Anyways, if I ever do this, it will be last minute.. as I kind of hope to have other dates, though I am probably one of the person that have contact with band members and could find out lol.. (yeah, Rambo and Leroy used to mail me so I would add their news) it would be funny to see the place empty itself after them lol.

Well, they're apparently just about to announce an Autumn tour, but come to Paris anyway - at least you know the lingo! :p

should be up for this one. how long are people staying for? am seeing morrisey on the 2nd so likely to fly over on the 3rd from scumland. will there be any company about till the 5th or 6th? to see the sights with me or sit in a pub?

We're flying out on Wednesday 4th, returning Saturday 7th

cheers Jem

flights booked will get venue tickets once little Gordy confirms and I can understand how to order from the venue in french.

Allez le Vikings

pompeyorder wrote: cheers Jem

flights booked will get venue tickets once little Gordy confirms and I can understand how to order from the venue in french.

Allez le Vikings

I have a spare ticket from Bernd.

Bump.

Looks like I might be able to make the Transmission gig by the skin of my teeth

That's Karma that is, for taking the piss out of me buying a seat

Anyone got a spare for this?... hotel and Eurostar booked..

Trying to work out the French website for ordering, and it's... well it's in French.

I'm going to Paris to see the Bad Loo dudes - need to find a hotel nearby -any recommendations?

Burt Reynolds wrote: Anyone got a spare for this?... hotel and Eurostar booked..

Trying to work out the French website for ordering, and it's... well it's in French.

Well, I've got a spare seating ticket because I didn't totally comprehend the whole seating/standing arrangements, and I've got a spare standing ticket, but that apparently has to be picked up from a FNAC Record Shop (which I couldn't be arsed doing, so I bought one that got sent straight to my letterbox)!

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote: How can anyone not love the translation of that interview. Personally, I imagine it is pretty much verbatim. Thus:

"Did that happen how, the end of New Order?Our bass player Peter Hook left us the past year. I really cannot enter into the details, but… it had problems of alcoholism, did a course of treatment of detoxification and while going out, it decided that it hated us."

Bad Lieutenant? Bad Gollum, more like.

Speaking of FNAC, from the Frnech Order I've picked up thta B:L are appearing at the FNAC store as per this..

Bad Lieutenant Le mercredi 4 novembre 2009 à 17h30 Pop- Rock - Electro Au forum du magasin, niveau -1 Dans le cadre du festival Les Inrocks, showcase du nouveau groupe de Bernard Summer (New Order), Phil Cunningham (New Order) et Jake Evans.

the store is at : Paris - Montparnasse 136, rue de Rennes 75006 Paris

• so if anyone's around they can go down and suggest the set list in person.....my Eurostar gets in at about 5.25 so pushing it a bit.

See you down the front in the 'hooky' position fnarr

Hooky's Right Hand wrote: my Eurostar gets in at about 5.25 so pushing it a bit.

See you down the front in the 'hooky' position fnarr

Likewise...

(Edit: No it doesn't, it gets in at 3:50pm... Wa-hey, in which case I could have picked up the original standing ticket at FNAC! - as Homer Simpson would say... DOH!)

What time does everybody else arrive?

I land at CDG 09:10, Jerter lands an hour later so I'm going to wait for him.

Reckon we'll be checked in and out on the sauce before 1

That record shop gig is near Notre Damme on the other side of the Seinne - hmmm...

El Jarvo wrote:

Nick King wrote: That record shop gig is near Notre Damme on the other side of the Seinne - hmmm...

Two words.

Sod. That.

Hope this helps.

I was rapidly coming to the same conclusion!

Think I'll definitely go see BL if there going to be at the record shop in person as I'll be in Paris for 10 a.m-is it a Q&A or will they just be signing records/tShirts/breasts etc?! :)

Hooky's Right Hand wrote:

See you down the front in the 'hooky' position fnarr

That's the place to be.

Have a good time

Agent Cooper wrote: Think I'll definitely go see BL if there going to be at the record shop in person as I'll be in Paris for 10 a.m-is it a Q&A or will they just be signing records/tShirts/breasts etc?! :)

They're meant to be playing live at Fnac Montparnasse at 5.30pm. See you there

FNAC MONTPARNASSE is on the LINE 12 beetween RENNES and MONTPARNASSE stations See you there guys

And, again according to the French Order, here's the running order for tomorrow:

"Voici l'ordre de passage et les horaires pour le concert du 4/11 (dans le programme papier du festival des Inrocks) : 19h00 : Wave Machines 19h50 : Violens 20h55 : Bad Lieutenant 22h20 : Bat For Lashes ce qui laisse espérer un concert d'une heure et quart environ"

and it's live on French radio - Radio Inter I think

so BL will be playing for a reasonable chunk of time with plenty of time for meet up in traditional parisian bar Kitty O'Sheas round the corner from the venue to drink reasonably priced 1664.....

Hooky's Right Hand wrote: reasonably priced 1664.....

hum...the pinte is annonced around 6.5-7 Euros ! :\ohwell:

Just got back from Liverpool Passport office with fresh new 10 year passport-that was a close one! Flight from Manchester tomorrow early morning then hopefully a trip to see BL at the record store and an amazing set from them at Les Inrocks. Got a good feeling about this one! :)

El Jarvo wrote: I hope everyone realises we'll be missing the first episode of Spooks. :(

The sacrifices I make.

It's season 6 isn't it? I love 'Spooks'

twp wrote:

El Jarvo wrote: I hope everyone realises we'll be missing the first episode of Spooks. :(

The sacrifices I make.

It's season 6 isn't it? I love 'Spooks'

Might be en France... Season 8 over here. The tagline for it is 'Harry's death is posted on the internet'

Thank feck for catch up TV

Agent Cooper wrote: Just got back from Liverpool Passport office with fresh new 10 year passport-that was a close one! Flight from Manchester tomorrow early morning then hopefully a trip to see BL at the record store and an amazing set from them at Les Inrocks. Got a good feeling about this one! :)

Sounds like you nearly did a Burt. All I've got to do now is wake up at 6ish.

Hooky's Right Hand wrote:

and it's live on French radio - Radio Inter I think

http://sites.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/accueil/

the show of Lenoir is from 9pm to 11… you just have to click on the button "direct" (live) to launch the player.

Just don't forget we're +1h GMT

Me & mrs hibster r in Paris now, done the louvre & sacre cour. Well u've got to really don't u

excuse text spk, posting thus from iPhone using free wifi in mcdo's

hibster wrote: Me & mrs hibster r in Paris now, done the louvre & sacre cour. Well u've got to really don't u

excuse text spk, posting thus from iPhone using free wifi in mcdo's

Hibster, Don't forget about visiting Château de Versailles and buying some french perfums for ya wife!

karine wrote:

Hooky's Right Hand wrote:

and it's live on French radio - Radio Inter I think

http://sites.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/accueil/

the show of Lenoir is from 9pm to 11… you just have to click on the button "direct" (live) to launch the player.

Just don't forget we're +1h GMT

hope someone gets a chance to record this and share. very interested to hear the BL tunes live.

Tracey Spivey wrote:

karine wrote:

Hooky's Right Hand wrote:

and it's live on French radio - Radio Inter I think

http://sites.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/accueil/

the show of Lenoir is from 9pm to 11… you just have to click on the button "direct" (live) to launch the player.

Just don't forget we're +1h GMT

hope someone gets a chance to record this and share. very interested to hear the BL tunes live.

Hey Trace! How're doing mate? Are you going to any US gigs?

hibster wrote: Me & mrs hibster r in Paris now, done the louvre & sacre cour. Well u've got to really don't u

excuse text spk, posting thus from iPhone using free wifi in mcdo's

lol!!!! did u fnd cdr? LAMO :0)

Enjoy the gig and spare a thought for your sad American friend langushing away at work...

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

Tracey Spivey wrote:

karine wrote:

Hooky's Right Hand wrote:

and it's live on French radio - Radio Inter I think

http://sites.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/accueil/

the show of Lenoir is from 9pm to 11… you just have to click on the button "direct" (live) to launch the player.

Just don't forget we're +1h GMT

hope someone gets a chance to record this and share. very interested to hear the BL tunes live.

Hey Trace! How're doing mate? Are you going to any US gigs?

really wish i could make one or more of the shows, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

karine wrote:

Hooky's Right Hand wrote:

and it's live on French radio - Radio Inter I think

http://sites.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/accueil/

the show of Lenoir is from 9pm to 11… you just have to click on the button "direct" (live) to launch the player.

Just don't forget we're +1h GMT

On now.

Sounding good - I like that track before Crystal

Missed CEREMONY but Jarvo just texted SHUG.

Tighten up now

really sounds great with Steve's drumming

RM wrote: Missed CEREMONY but Jarvo just texted SHUG.

Damn, missed it!

John Sludden wrote:

RM wrote: Missed CEREMONY but Jarvo just texted SHUG.

Damn, missed it!

Hi John, how goes it?

Out of Control now (starts very donna summer)

John Sludden wrote:

RM wrote: Missed CEREMONY but Jarvo just texted SHUG.

Damn, missed it!

A mate in London is going to try get ALL concert broadcasted on a CDr for me....i'll send Corby one!

.....OUT of Control s ACE

RM wrote: .....OUT of Control s ACE

Absolutly! seguing into Temptation now - nice

Heaven.....

One of the Vikings who post here as JERT has been thrown out of concert for using camera.Hibster had his taken off him on way in!Needless to say JERT is gutted.

RM wrote: One of the Vikings who post here as JERT has been thrown out of concert for using camera.Hibster had his taken off him on way in!Needless to say JERT is gutted.

Sickner alright

Is that all the songs we are getting? no encore?

CuanaD - D-plus wrote:

John Sludden wrote:

RM wrote: Missed CEREMONY but Jarvo just texted SHUG.

Damn, missed it!

Hi John, how goes it?

Out of Control now (starts very donna summer)

I'm absolutely great, thanks pal. ( Unirea just equalised against Rangers :D) Agreed, Out of Control sounded immense. Was pleasantly surprised at how good BL sounded at Heaven the other week, really enjoyed the gig. Added bonus that they're supporting PSB, got tickets for the Brum gig.

Shit! Missed it! Just a stupid woman singing horrible songs now

RM wrote: Missed CEREMONY but Jarvo just texted SHUG.

Hope someone has recorded this and will let available to download in the next days

Poinonois intent: Out of Control: Twist of Fate:

CuanaD - D-plus wrote: Is that all the songs we are getting? no encore?

No encore. :( A set of 1h long, we were a little bit frustrated :\ohwell: A Transmission as an encore would have been nice. A fantastic Steven Morris tonight

Big Mouth Julio wrote: Just a stupid woman singing horrible songs now

It was BAT FOR LASHES! not so bad I thought

Nice in-store performance but a bit short (3 numbers) after an hour's wait. French crowd was a lot more enthusiastic than usual.

Hilarious comments in queue about a group of English chav types that pushed to the front of the queue with no shame - a tall bloke with one of those Hackett jackets taking photos over the barrier and two generously built blonde (ahem) ladies (ahem again).

Now I know the French for "I don't fancy yours much" and "if the collars don't match the cuffs...." Think this EU thing will work.

Si

French Order Pictures

I hadn't seen Bernard looking so happy for a while

He loves wine indeed

El Jarvo wrote:

judgedin wrote: a tall bloke with one of those Hackett jackets

He's actually German, you ignorant prick.

Erm which is probably why the French queue parted so easily.

Norman?

El Jarvo wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

judgedin wrote: a tall bloke with one of those Hackett jackets

He's actually German, you ignorant prick.

Erm which is probably why the French queue parted so easily.

Norman?

You what, Julio?

Sorry, Nobert

Big Mouth Julio wrote: French Order Pictures

I hadn't seen Bernard looking so happy for a while

He loves wine indeed

A MUSIC LEGEND A MUSIC LEGEND A MUSIC LEGEND A MUSIC LEGEND A MUSIC LEGEND

El Jarvo wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: Sorry, Nobert

Indeed, Nobby.

I'm gonna start calling him Norman now though. I like that.

The most Germanic looking man I know. English chav, dear oh dear.

You just couldn't make this up....NORBERT/English CHAV?

El Jarvo wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: Sorry, Nobert

Indeed, Nobby.

I'm gonna start calling him Norman now though. I like that.

The most Germanic looking man I know. English chav, dear oh dear.

Sorry, I may say Confusion Norman is the other giant sat below

Ally wrote: It was.... difficult.

:dead:

Don't vomit in the train Ally

Ally wrote: Very enjoyable night although that was the roughest hangover I've had in years today.

Briefly chatted with Jake and Phil at the FNAC signing and they were very friendly and approachable. Bernard was predictably swamped as the centre of attention but I managed to get the French copy of Never Cry Another Tear signed in the end (fanks to Bonz for looking after it!); he was relaxed and seemed to be enjoying himself. One guy brought him a bottle of Russian (?) wine and his face visibly lit up... quality. So a tip for fans going to future events like this, just bring wine or maybe a big bag of money guaranteed a chat.

remind to put that picture of you & phil up ;-)

Johnny Giles wrote:

Ally wrote: Very enjoyable night although that was the roughest hangover I've had in years today.

Good return train journey Ally?

Well I feel for you if you felt as bad as I did.... There was no way I could have got on a moving vehicle at 11am without the fear of throwing up... it took me until 4.30pm to manage to eat anything.. we got a 7pm Eurostar home and I slept all the way...

Looks like it was a classic night out. Thanks for letting me live vicariously!

El Jarvo wrote:

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

El Jarvo wrote: I hope everyone realises we'll be missing the first episode of Spooks. :(

The sacrifices I make.

surely a techie like yerself has a DVR...no????

Surely someone as bright as you, Jeff, gets irony?

Anyway, what facking year do you live in? 2005? DVR, my arsenal.

And, TWP, series 8 mate - you're lagging behind!

I am 2 seasons late Bugger...

I really enjoyed the show and was lucky enough to witness it in front of the Vikings crew Would have loved to talk to you guys a little bit more but 'hi!' to everyone single one that was there :) 'Ceremony' was very inexpected and quicked ass What a tremendous song it is The show was pretty good even though some of the BL songs are not up to it yet ('This is hooooooooome' ). An encore would have been really nice :( Anyway a truly good night overall

Yeah an encore wouldve been sweet, but you could tell it wasn't happening once they started packing up the autocue's

Just got back in at last. Apologies to any Parisians out there, but Paris is a bit of a shithole.

I was getting close to committing murder this morning re: the chaps trying to sell you metal Eiffel Towers. C___s.

judgedin wrote: Hilarious comments in queue about a group of English chav types that pushed to the front of the queue with no shame - a tall bloke with one of those Hackett jackets taking photos over the barrier and two generously built blonde (ahem) ladies (ahem again).

I think, your problem was, you queued on the wrong side, the right one. In England they always queue left, because it's faster than to queue right. Please, don't ask me, why?

confusion wrote:

judgedin wrote: Hilarious comments in queue about a group of English chav types that pushed to the front of the queue with no shame - a tall bloke with one of those Hackett jackets taking photos over the barrier and two generously built blonde (ahem) ladies (ahem again).

I think, your problem was, you queued on the wrong side, the right one. In England they always queue left, because it's faster than to queue right. Please, don't ask me, why?

we queue on the left cos we drive on the left, simple as that!

judgedin wrote: Hilarious comments in queue about a group of English chav types that pushed to the front of the queue with no shame - a tall bloke with one of those Hackett jackets taking photos over the barrier ...

Here is the pic:

Here is the queue:

More pix

confusion wrote:

Here is the queue:

ha ha... stop rubbing it in, chavman!

That was the queue before I joined it, cheers lads

The Cap'n wrote: Some of venue security were cunts it has to be said. I had to "disappear" into the crowd numerous times to avoid my camera being confiscated.

ho yes I saw you Cap'n ! the security were so stupid

Had a really good time and enjoyed it all - it was good to see and have time to chat to all the faces for a change. The band were great really tight I thought.

Must apologise to Burt and Jemma as I passed them on the stairs at Momatre metro station unfortunately, as me and the misses was trying to get our son up the stairs in his pram (I think it was probably over my head at the time) I couldn't really speak so sorry for that!

As for the songs I remember enjoying 'This is Home'.

Yeah, great gig, and bad hangover the next day...

That Si bloke can go and piss off...

judgedin wrote:

Hilarious comments in queue about a group of English chav types that pushed to the front of the queue with no shame - a tall bloke with one of those Hackett jackets taking photos over the barrier and two generously built blonde (ahem) ladies (ahem again).

Now I know the French for "I don't fancy yours much" and "if the collars don't match the cuffs...." Think this EU thing will work.

Si

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