What other bands have stood out for you in the past 30 years?
Joy Division — they were always much better live that on record. They were the only band that I thought… fucking hell. They blew us away in terms of stage presence and putting on a great rock & roll show. There was no sucking up to the crowd. There was that sense that you were watching something that was it’s own thing and there was a barrier between them and the crowd. Some bands are too willing to let the audience to believe that they could be like the band. And it’s usually bollocks because those bands are usually the ones with the helicopters. I was a huge New Order fan too. Hooky [Peter Hook, New Order/Joy Division bassist] suggested that we do a tour together in 1987 in South America where we flip-flop and they headline one night and we did the next. But our agent said fuck South America, let’s do it North America… it was a great tour. There was no other band around then that I really liked apart from the Fall.
