Never Cry Another Tear - Lyrics Page

M1 wrote: This album should be called The Great Outdoors or something with all the endless references to bloody rivers, seas, mountains, roads, streets, skies, weather, suns, winter, summer, autumn, spring, breezes, waves, shores, snow, air, wind, falls, gales, rain, ice, storms and of course, twees.

Would be alright if the lyrics evoked rich pastoral landscapes of windswept, rugged beauty. But they don't. They are there because they rhyme and / or because their authors are lazy.

Gawd, I hope it's because they are lazy...

I've never seen someone so irritated over lyrics...

leather_girl wrote:

M1 wrote: This album should be called The Great Outdoors or something with all the endless references to bloody rivers, seas, mountains, roads, streets, skies, weather, suns, winter, summer, autumn, spring, breezes, waves, shores, snow, air, wind, falls, gales, rain, ice, storms and of course, twees.

Would be alright if the lyrics evoked rich pastoral landscapes of windswept, rugged beauty. But they don't. They are there because they rhyme and / or because their authors are lazy.

Gawd, I hope it's because they are lazy...

I've never seen someone so irritated over lyrics...

It's the teacher in me, sorry. Most of my students, including special needs, could do better than much of this. As a NO fan of many years I can overlook a LOT but these are less than average IMO. For some people the tune is all that matters & that's fine. For me the lyrics kill an otherwise solid little album.

I like what you've said there, M1.

Although the rhyming thing does interest me.

It's about whether you're using the lyrics to convey a message, or to give the voice something to say that sounds good. Using the voice as an instrument, with a few poignant couplets thrown in here and there if you can manage them.

Both are valid, I think. And if you haven't got a message, should it stop you from singing at all?

Laziness isn't valid though. Perfection takes too long.

I don't get all the people who are so down on the lyrics. Lighten up,people! New Order were never a message band per se. Barney is a musician first & a wordsmith second. He'll never be an Ian Curtis. I like the lyrics. I find them sunny,optimistic & full of hope. I would much rather a great music with so-so lyrics than the reverse. If the music is lacking,no one would give a sh*t about the words. That said, I quite like the imagery on "Walk on Silver Water."

annmuin wrote: I don't get all the people who are so down on the lyrics. Lighten up,people! New Order were never a message band per se. Barney is a musician first & a wordsmith second. He'll never be an Ian Curtis. I like the lyrics. I find them sunny,optimistic & full of hope. I would much rather a great music with so-so lyrics than the reverse. If the music is lacking,no one would give a sh*t about the words. That said, I quite like the imagery on "Walk on Silver Water."

.Some folks, gotta crap on Sumner whenever they can.

I mean, Bernard Sumner has been writing genius crap lyrics since 1982. How is "I think you is a pig, you should be in a zoo", the lyrics to to The Village, Subcutlture, SOTN, how are they any worse than what's on NCAT?

At least Barney's lyrics are full of bizarre nautical references and cliches that are unique only to him, as opposed to most bands, whose lyrics are just crap rockk and roll cliches (King os Leon spring to mind).

Biginoil wrote:

Miss Terey wrote: With official lyrics they are really spoiling us

I know I should be glad, but if I'm honest with myself a little part of me was looking forward to discussions about moths getting eaten by dogs in years to come.

:rip: This thread

That is a shame.

When WFTSC came out the thread lasted for ages and was really funny. The official lyrics were based on what we came up with, too.

Keep it coming.

Talking of WFTSC if it wasnt for Barneys lisp, Id swear he sang "I RARELY hurt you, I nearly gave it all away":\ohwell:

On Dynamo I swear I hear "see that old man in the street, scaring people off their fweet".

whats a fweet?:\ohwell:

NO Regret wrote: On Dynamo I swear I hear "see that old man in the street, scaring people off their fweet".

whats a fweet?:\ohwell:

I know for sure that 'we could always be friends' on TT sounds like 'we could always be fwiends'.

I also noticed that sometimes he prolongs his "s's". For example, on 'Getting away with it', it sounds like there are one or two more s's at the end of the word 'purpose'.

And even though my English listening skills are very good, sometimes I can't quite detect what Bernard is singing without a lyrics sheet.

leather_girl wrote:

NO Regret wrote: On Dynamo I swear I hear "see that old man in the street, scaring people off their fweet".

whats a fweet?:\ohwell:

I know for sure that 'we could always be friends' on TT sounds like 'we could always be fwiends'.

I also noticed that sometimes he prolongs his "s's". For example, on 'Getting away with it', it sounds like there are one or two more s's at the end of the word 'purpose'.

And even though my English listening skills are very good, sometimes I can't quite detect what Bernard is singing without a lyrics sheet.

Yeah that one of TT is really bad. I guess its just a flaw in Barneys speech (cant pronounce R's). I only really noticed it since 1996. Maybe its caused by his rock n roll lifestyle? Its a shame as it does spoil the songs somewhat.

"Making love and cwashing cars" "what are you pwooving baby"

NO Regret wrote:

leather_girl wrote:

NO Regret wrote: On Dynamo I swear I hear "see that old man in the street, scaring people off their fweet".

whats a fweet?:\ohwell:

I know for sure that 'we could always be friends' on TT sounds like 'we could always be fwiends'.

I also noticed that sometimes he prolongs his "s's". For example, on 'Getting away with it', it sounds like there are one or two more s's at the end of the word 'purpose'.

And even though my English listening skills are very good, sometimes I can't quite detect what Bernard is singing without a lyrics sheet.

Yeah that one of TT is really bad. I guess its just a flaw in Barneys speech (cant pronounce R's). I only really noticed it since 1996. Maybe its caused by his rock n roll lifestyle? Its a shame as it does spoil the songs somewhat.

"Making love and cwashing cars" "what are you pwooving baby"

But I doubt he's intentionally pronouncing it that way, though. I haven't analysed things that much so I can't comment on the post-1996 thing. It's fun to try to detect what he's singing without the lyrics though. Is this just his singing voice? Or his speaking voice too?

I always over-analysis things

I think its just his singing voice. Ive never heard anything unusual in his speech.

It does give his songs some mistique. I would never had guessed "Most got eaten by a thug".

Im still trying to work out on Running Out Of Luck

"why do careless hearts fall into empty hands its a tragic starts then lies down in the sound"

i know its not right but i cant figure it.

Did the UK album have lyrics sheet? Im always baffled why only Twisted Tenderness had lyrics included when no other Electronic and certainly no NO albms had any included.

NO Regret wrote: I always over-analysis things

I think its just his singing voice. Ive never heard anything unusual in his speech.

It does give his songs some mistique. I would never had guessed "Most got eaten by a thug".

Im still trying to work out on Running Out Of Luck

"why do careless hearts fall into empty hands its a tragic starts then lies down in the sound"

i know its not right but i cant figure it.

Did the UK album have lyrics sheet? Im always baffled why only Twisted Tenderness had lyrics included when no other Electronic and certainly no NO albms had any included.

Most, if not all, Japanese editions of CDs by any artist contains lyrics, although occasionally you will see mistakes because sometimes when lyrics provided by the artist or record company are unavailable, they have to transcribe it.

The Japanese release of NCAT contained lyrics, and it came with the disclaimer that they were provided by the artist.

The bit you mentioned about 'Running out of luck', is supposed to be (according to said lyrics sheet I have): Why do careless hearts Fall into empty hands It's a trend that starts Then lies down in the sand

NO Regret wrote: I always over-analysis things

I think its just his singing voice. Ive never heard anything unusual in his speech.

It does give his songs some mistique. I would never had guessed "Most got eaten by a thug".

Im still trying to work out on Running Out Of Luck

"why do careless hearts fall into empty hands its a tragic starts then lies down in the sound"

i know its not right but i cant figure it.

Did the UK album have lyrics sheet? Im always baffled why only Twisted Tenderness had lyrics included when no other Electronic and certainly no NO albms had any included.

'Why do careless hearts fall into empty hands it's a trend that starts then lies down in the sand'

that's my best guess at it at the moment,

'tragic starts' was my best guess from the album,

but on one of the live versions it's much more clear and is 'it's a trend that starts'

I'm editing the versions of the lyrics I put up at the start of this thread as and when I hear stuff done live, as often it seem to be clearer to understand than the stuff on the album;

Though no doubt Bernard gets bits wrong/changes bits as he goes along anyway

Miss Terey wrote: These changes

I woke up at the sun rise and I took a walk outside was alone at the roadside yeh the futures open wide

here it comes rushing through me like a river to the sea I got lost in the colours many shades deeper than me

so how long these changes the long light reaches out of sight got lost in the great tide of what I want and what is right

can't stop this world from changing I don't know if I'm wrong or right some days it won't stop raining it's not all there in black and white can't stop this world from changing

if this life has a meaning you've got to dig for it my son and they'll try stop your dreaming and if you do you'll come undone take your time with this healing on this road you've just begun love and hate just a feeling burning up just like the sun

so how long these changes the long light reaches out of sight got lost in the great tide of what I want and what is right

can't stop this world from changing I don't know if I'm wrong or right some days it won't stop raining it's not all there in black and white can't stop this world from changing

don't (something) all this lifedon't ever be denieddon't let it dissolve an flow away

Any one got any ideas on that last bit??

'don't give it all this life'???? don't ever be denied

'don't let it all just flow away'? or 'don't let it dissolve an flow away'?

the only bit I'm sure on is the don't ever be denied bit lol

leather_girl wrote:

NO Regret wrote: I always over-analysis things

I think its just his singing voice. Ive never heard anything unusual in his speech.

It does give his songs some mistique. I would never had guessed "Most got eaten by a thug".

Im still trying to work out on Running Out Of Luck

"why do careless hearts fall into empty hands its a tragic starts then lies down in the sound"

i know its not right but i cant figure it.

Did the UK album have lyrics sheet? Im always baffled why only Twisted Tenderness had lyrics included when no other Electronic and certainly no NO albms had any included.

Most, if not all, Japanese editions of CDs by any artist contains lyrics, although occasionally you will see mistakes because sometimes when lyrics provided by the artist or record company are unavailable, they have to transcribe it.

The Japanese release of NCAT contained lyrics, and it came with the disclaimer that they were provided by the artist.

The bit you mentioned about 'Running out of luck', is supposed to be (according to said lyrics sheet I have): Why do careless hearts Fall into empty hands It's a trend that starts Then lies down in the sand

Thanks Leather girl, that fits in with the live version

Perhaps you should compare the lyric sheet with the ones I've guessed at and point out what's different, As that might be easier than asking you to copy them and type them all out for us, of course if you do want to type them all out that would be great too.

The last three lines of 'These Changes'

Don't keep it all inside Don't ever be denied One day this all will blow away

leather_girl wrote: The last three lines of 'These Changes'

Don't keep it all inside Don't ever be denied One day this all will blow away

Thanks LG I never would have guessed at that

but it fits

Biginoil wrote: Runaway

There may come a time When the days are short And you’re feeling like it just aint worth it all

And the sky is full Of the winter gale But there’s something keeps you standing by his side

I know it’s hard but you can't run away Sometimes it’s better just to look the other way

When you’re all alone In the dead of night And you’re wide awake but you just can’t find that light

(spoken: And I can see that you’re at the bottom of the well You’re holding on but then you can’t afford to sell You’ve got to know that everything will be just fine Forget that rainy day That sun is gonna shine

I know it’s hard but you can't run away Sometimes it’s better just to turn the other way (Sha la la la)

Was there ever a time when wrong was right As you try to hold on To the things that you like And I can’t count the times I felt sorry for you Cos you’re hollow inside like a bad shade of blue

Without you I'd be lost in a world that was made of ice Without you I would live like a beggar in paradise It’s the truth And I’m telling you straight I would never lie So walk away with me Walk away with me Like a runaway.

Miss Terey wrote: Twist of fate

I must be losing my mind, I'm gripped by feelings that I don't understand it's not a part of my plan.

my hopes that once were so high were crushed and broken in the blink of an eye by the road side

and I just can't let it go this fever won't let me hang onto my pride it will never subside

So if you see her again tell her that I can wait undercover, in the shelter of a strange twist of fate

and I know what I'm doing is incredibly wrong that the music has ended but the beat just goes on and on

don't want to sound like I'm weak negotiations are about to begin it's got my head in a spin

and everyone that I meet complains that I don't act the same any more that I was better before.

So if you see her again tell her that I can wait undercover, in the shelter of a strange twist of fate

and I know what I'm doing is incredibly wrong that the music has ended but the beat just goes on and on

So if you see her again tell her that I can wait undercover, in the shelter of a strange twist of fate

and I know what I'm doing is incredibly wrong that the music has ended but the beat just goes on and on

Miss Terey wrote: Summer days

summer days on holiday drunken youths are on the street falling out of whisky bars making love and crashing cars

getting into hopeless fights with crazy girls that just weren't right this was 1983 the sun was burning bright for me

so shine on me my lord my lord so shine on me my lord my lord

I stumbled on a chance remark drinking in a late night club it must have been in Quadrant Park Almost got eaten by a thug but summer days are sunny days for dodgy guys with wayward ways and this was 1993 it was a special time for me

so shine on me my lord my lord so shine on me my lord my lord

but then a wind of change blew in a bed of roses laced with gin I didn't know what the hell he meant shaking the establishment two zero oh dear me this guy was off his tree

so shine on me my lord my lord so shine on me summer days on holiday drunken youths are on the street summer days are sunny days it was a special time for me my lord my lord

Miss Terey wrote: This is home

you flew so high but you're coming down the snow falls hard in tinseltown now there is a ghost where you once stood I know you'd leave this if you only could

this is home this is home

Just tell me that it's true I want you by my side girl I'm doing it for you I'm gonna open your eyes I'm gonna take you higher(higher higher higher) than a bird can fly girl I'm so in love with you don't even think that it is true

you're living underground with your despair I'll build you a ladder to the clear blue air this feeling it finds you wherever you may roam I'm right there beside you wherever you may go

Just tell me that it's true I want you by my side girl I'm doing it for you I'm gonna open your eyes I'm gonna take you higher(higher higher higher) than a bird can fly girl I'm so in love with you don't think that it is true

this is home this is home

Just tell me that it's true I want you by my side girl I'm doing it for you I'm gonna open your eyes I'm gonna take you higher(higher higher higher) than a bird can fly girl I'm so in love with you don't even think that it is true

Miss Terey wrote: Dynamo

Hey there what you gonna do keep the faith inside of you this whole world could fall apart but you're still the brightest star

Hey girl who you living with that guy's just a little kid spent his money on a car drove it to the nearest bar

What you gonna do about it this is your chance to shout it lift up your heart and sing life is a precious thing life is a precious thing life is a precious thing

Old man living on the street scaring people off their feet but he's not starting world war three he wants to live in harmony

See that hound dog on the floor lying by the kitchen door he don't care about a thing his ignorance is not a sin

What you gonna do about it this is your chance to shout it lift up your heart and sing life is a precious thing

you make me sick and tired beat up without a trial put down your arms and sing life is a precious thing life is a precious thing life is a precious thing

what you gonna do (x6)

Miss Terey wrote: Poisonous intent

Hey bad man where are you gonna go when you can't go back to the life you know when you feel it's time will you give me a sign it's a long hard road with your own bad mind

you keep saying something but you're doing nothing I'm here thinking that your full of shit or something the whole world's waiting what are you gonna do I'm gonna take the money and buy me something new hey what are you gonna buy for yourself I'm gonna buy a guitar with my new found wealth with your new found wealth? with my new found wealth is there something else? no there's nothing else

Hey bad man where are you gonna go when you can't go back to the life you know when you feel it's time will you give me a sign it's a long hard road with your own bad mind

Hey you give it to me I wanna taste the honey my life's hollow when you beg steal or borrow but I can't help thinking what I always knew you've got a first class ticket with a third rate view and you can't go back no you can't go back no I can't come back so hit the road jack

help me find my way I cannot fight another day I'm a searcher for a soul, reflecting light that falls on gold

Miss Terey wrote: Shine like the sun

We'll leave this town in the morning we'll burn our love on the run we'll reach the sea by the sunset we'll chase the stars to the dawn

So don't say that you're losing my love together we shine like the sun

You saw the ghosts on the railroad you saw your life on the track they said they're going where the wind blows and now they're never coming back

So don't say that you're losing my love together we shine like the sun we'll find a place that our hearts won't falter maybe our time it has come

We'll leave this town in the morning we'll burn our love on the run we'll watch the wheel spinning faster I feel a change gonna come

So don't say that you're losing my love together we shine like the sun we'll find a place that our hearts won't falter maybe our time it has come

Miss Terey wrote: Head into tomorrow

Left asleep (In) in autumn leaves with promises of summer breeze watch you dancing to nature's song the melody will call me on

yeah you gave it all away yeah

and I just can't stay watching rivers rolling to the sea gotta find my way as I head into tomorrow

to find a path that leads to your door I felt the rapture on a lonely shore living life when the world's asleep but all your dreams they won't come cheap

yeah and you gave it all away yeah and I just can't stay watching rivers rolling into the sea catching a breaking wave as I head into tomorrow as I head into tomorrow

Miss Terey wrote: These changes

I woke up at the sunrise and I took a walk outside was alone at the roadside yeah the future is open wide

here it comes rushing through me like a river to the sea I got lost in the colours many shades deeper than me

so how long these changes And all I reach is out of sight got lost in the great tide of what I want and what is right

can't stop this world from changing I don't know if I'm wrong or right some days it won't stop raining it's not all there in black and white can't stop this world from changing

if this life has a meaning you've got to dig for it my son and they'll try stop your dreaming but if you do you'll come undone take your time with this healing on this road you've just begun love and hate just a feeling burning up just like the sun

so how long these changes and all i reach is out of sight got lost in the great tide of what I want and what is right

can't stop this world from changing I don't know if I'm wrong or right some days it won't stop raining it's not all there in black and white can't stop this world from changing

Don't keep it all inside Don't ever be denied One day this all will blow away

Miss Terey wrote: Walk on silver water

Tell me what I've got to do to get my mind away from you spell it out in black and white close the brackets do it right

It's just a dead end street rain and thunder where two rivers meet and you always took the best from me hit by lightning underneath the trees

I can't walk on water or still the raging sea I can't move a mountain or live eternally

No use being what you're not or crying over what you ain't got close the blinds turn out the light you won't see what you don't like

It's just a dead end street don't you know it cos it made you weep I can't show it but it gets me down I'm sick of living in this the dead end town

I can't walk on water or still the raging sea I can't move a mountain or live eternally but I am just a free bird hanging in the air don't care about tomorrow cos I know you're not there

so walk on silver water calm the raging sea and climb up in the mountains and wait there for me but I am just a free bird hanging in the air don't care about tomorrow cos I know you're not there

walk on silver water

leather_girl wrote:

Miss Terey wrote: Twist of fate

I must be losing my mind, I'm gripped by feelings that I don't understand it's not a part of my plan.

my hopes that once were so high were crushed and broken in the blink of an eye by the road side

and I just can't let it go this fever won't let me hang onto my pride it will never subside

So if you see her again tell her that I can wait undercover, in the shelter of a strange twist of fate

and I know what I'm doing is incredibly wrong that the music has ended but the beat just goes on and on

don't want to sound like I'm weak negotiations are about to begin it's got my head in a spin

and everyone that I meet complains that I don't act the same any more that I was better before.

So if you see her again tell her that I can wait undercover, in the shelter of a strange twist of fate

and I know what I'm doing is incredibly wrong that the music has ended but the beat just goes on and on

So if you see her again tell her that I can wait undercover, in the shelter of a strange twist of fate

and I know what I'm doing is incredibly wrong that the music has ended but the beat just goes on and on

Always thought 'can wait' fitted better than 'can't wait',but then wasn't sure that I just wanted it to be to make the song fit the circumstances I was thinking of.

(to go even further off topic and throw in a random non BL or even NO related song lyric 'and there were times when I know that I just fell in love just to give myself an alibi' )

Miss Terey wrote: How Long

Sometimes when I feel so lost and lonely there's a place I go that's sometimes hard to find

And sometimes the hardest place to pass through is the open door that lies within my mind

How long must I wait to find the answer though this road is long the fire burns tonight

An' high above the city streets felt the air beneath your feet there's solice in the vast expanse know that nothing's up to chance

There's freedom in the air tonight a million stars are burning bright I'll see you in your dreams tonight see you in your dreams tonight

How long must I wait to find the answer though this road is long the fire burns tonight

Stay strong cos this climb it will get steeper cos the sweetest place is the one just out of sight

How long How long

This is exactly what I heard too.

For Summer Days, I keep singing

And that was 1963 Johnney came home with a gift for me

I'll get me coat:\ohwell: