Meeting New Order

Any interesting tales to tell about meeting members of the band?

Followed Steve and Gillian around Macclesfield town in 1987/8 while on numerous King's school lunchbreak walks. I was not a stalker back then...!

I first met Bernard in 1991 I think?...It was while we were waiting to see if a new album would surface after the collapse of Factory. I spotted him in Wilmslow and followed him into the newsagents. I eventually plucked up the courage to speak to him outside as he got into his BMW Z3. He was very non committal but did offer a handshake. Met him more recently at the Ritz after the Bad Loo gig. He was more forthcoming and shaking hands like no tomorrow.

Met Hooky on numerous occasions at talks etc. Very friendly and he always remembers a face. Signs anything you want too. He was always enthusiastic and instrumental in the success of Paradise sending us information while they were recording or on tour. I have some very interesting letters from him about what he was doing with Revenge etc. Some written on 'Suite 16 Recording Studio' headed paper and one from 'Ibiza Mediterraneo Studios' while recording Technique.

A mate of mine met Hooky at a Revenge gig and offered a handshake to his hero which was met with a very sarcastic limp wristed handshake in return. Needless to say he was no longer a hero!

Ive only met Hooky, but have met him a few times now, and he's always nice, a real people bloke, perhaps he was different when he was drinking, which could explain why your mate had such a different experience, but he's always been open and friendly with me, even when I just bumped into him in the street on my way to the freebass gig at the factory.

I'd love to meet the rest of the band, and wish I'd met TW too.

Never meet your heros

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: Never meet your heros

Funny that.......

When i interviewed Hooky at the FACTORY press day i said summat like..

"you yer twat youv've cost me a fuckin fortune over the years"

He just laughed and said "well if i'm supposed to be one of your heroes your nor very fucking polite are you, yer cheeky C**t! "

Not the whole story mind,the question was originally about hooky's heroes etc ....

Also bear in mind that the press day was really purely about promoting the club but i managed to sneak in ALLSORTS,and even got to ask him about the fabled "hooky's closet" which IS jammed packed full of rareities,tapes, acetates etc!

He did finish off saying that you should never meet your heroes,i cant remember who he directly quoted,It could have been AHW but i could be wrong. I'll have to dig the audio out and check.

Lovely bloke too,he was well made up when i gave him the best of promo puzzle at the book signing day in Manc .

Same goes for young Jack who i met at the club opening nite and did a small interview with, a true chip off the old block

I met Phil and Jake in/outside the mad ferret at the Preston gig earlier in the year,they were both quite happy to pose for foties.

Gets back to our hotel and they are only staying in the same place!

Had a word with Jake who recognised me from the pub earlier and he asked me what i thought of the gig. Twas nice beeing remembered,but then again i was with ROCKET MICK, MISSY JEM, BANSHEE and a few others, so thats hardly surprising is it!

I think he met Hooky on a bad day but knowing my mate he was probably over sycophantic!

wrote: "hooky's closet" which IS jammed packed full of rareities,tapes, acetates etc!

Oi Hooky!!

I shared a few drinks with Hooky (and Twinny) at Kro bar opposite Manchester Uni the afternoon before the Monaco gig there in 2000.

A really nice, genuine Salford bloke, who seemed happy to be continually interrupted by folks aking him to sign all manner of records & souvenirs.

I met my hero & found I liked him as a person as well as a bass-swinging monster.

I did think he'd be taller though. :D

I saw Ian, Bernard and Hooky one Saturday afternoon on Portabello Rd Market in London - it was the night after a gig, but I can't recall whether it was Electric Ballroom Oct 79, or ULU Feb 80. I went over and mumbled "hello, love your band" and they mumbled back. Then I shuffled awkwardly away. Aah, to have your time again.....!

wrote: Also bear in mind that the press day was really purely about promoting the club but i managed to sneak in ALLSORTS

Ah, he'll have loved that.

His faves are the pink round ones with the coconut flakes. Finger-suckin' good.

David Baguley wrote: I saw Ian, Bernard and Hooky one Saturday afternoon on Portabello Rd Market in London - it was the night after a gig, but I can't recall whether it was Electric Ballroom Oct 79, or ULU Feb 80. I went over and mumbled "hello, love your band" and they mumbled back. Then I shuffled awkwardly away. Aah, to have your time again.....!

Nice one. In those days if you'd had enough gumption to offer them a drink I'm sure they would have taken you up on it.

Met Hooky at Newcastle Riverside back in 1990 when he was touring Revenge.

I got there really early - I was the only one at the venue. Went for a piss, then Hooky came in, got chatting, and he was fucking great - bought me a pint of cider, signed my '&' Round and Round t-shirt, and introduced me to the rest of he band.

Top bloke.

I first met Bernard at a club called Peruvia (in Wilmslow) in the late 90’s. It was always full of celebs – mainly footballers. We were at the bar and my friend (who always saw him at the Hacienda – when I didn’t) was stood next to him. She struck up a conversation with him, while I just stood there awestruck!

When I finally spoke, it was to say “I named my parrot after you!” He looked bemused to say the least and after an awkward moment of silence my mate started chatting to him again – while I was stood there thinking ‘what did you say that for you loon?’

He then bought us a brandy and coke and we carried on with our night. Met him again at the Ian Brown Aftershow party at Aqua Bar and gave him a Barney’s Angels badge, which he was pretty pleased with. He was happy to pose for photo’s with me, Bonz and Canada.

Met Hooky several times now, mainly at exhibitions, DJ nights, Hacienda nights and before most of the gigs in 2006. He now classes me as Jacks stalker!!

Met Steve Morris at the Joy Division Documentary screening at The Lowry a couple of years back which I was pretty chuffed about, he was a really nice guy. If only I’d known Gillian was in the audience, I’d love to meet her.

I met Hooky after the Unknown Pleasures evening at Norwich UEA. He was really nice and I was very excited to meet him.

Would love to meet Stephen, Gillian and Bernard too.

Ive never met New Order.

I did once meet Grandad from off of the Heinz soups adverts.

He's probably dead by now, like.

I have met Hooky twice and Steve once and they were very pleasant.

I met Stephen outside the Ritz in 2009 after the BL gig there, he was very friendly and chatty, just as he comes across in the interviews

Gillian was with him also, rather shy but pleasant she didn't really say anything mind just a smile, more or less dragging Stephen away from the fans, I can recall her saying "come on!"

Perhaps an hour or so later I met Phil C at the aftershow party at Odders Bar and we talked about Marion, New Order and Bad Lieutenant

At the opening weekend of The Factory club I met Hooky and he was in a very good mood, buzzing from the atmosphere of the packed top floor. Managed to get a photo too.

I met 2 New Orders and a Bad Lieutenant at Sound Control in June 2010 for the Ian Brown aftershow party, the first was a few handshakes with Barney and some quick chats, I was cheeky enough to slip him a flyer of my single, and managed to get some poor quality photos. I met Phil C for a second time who seemed quite drunk or something like that... and had a photo and quick chat with Jake. I said I liked "Shine Like The Sun" a lot which he was pleased to hear.

I met Barney at TFI Friday (former music show thing on Channel 4) at Riverside studios in Hammersmith in 1996 when he was promoting Second Nature with Electronic.

He was in the bar and I just said hello and we got chatting although I was really nervous, shook his hand and asked him the $64,000 question: would the Order reform again? He said he wasn't sure but that he hoped so. I also asked him if he and Johnny would play live again and he said it depended on how busy Johnny was.

I walked out of there on cloud nine.

My mate used to run the Carling Academy venue in Liverpool and managed to get us backstage passes for the Big Top Arena gig in 2006.

There was a big open backstage area behind the Big Top where the dressing rooms portacabins for the band were.

That evening I met Steve and Hooky before they went on stage whilst somewhat bladdered. I think its fair to say I didn't make a good impression.

When I approached Hooky he was talking to Alan Wise. Hooky called Alan Wise a fat bastard and I said "you can talk". Why??!! Why would I say that??!! He just scowled at me.

I then scurried off, ashamed, and spotted Steven. He was talking to someone in an animated fashion, obviously building up to the punchline of a funny story. I walked straight up, told him he'd helped change my life, shook his hand, and then walked off. As I walked away I heard him say to the other person, "sorry, I've lost my thread now.........".

Not the best day of my life.

jake atkinson wrote: When I approached Hooky he was talking to Alan Wise. Hooky called Alan Wise a fat bastard and I said "you can talk". Why??!! Why would I say that??!! He just scowled at me.

I then scurried off, ashamed, and spotted Steven. He was talking to someone in an animated fashion, obviously building up to the punchline of a funny story. I walked straight up, told him he'd helped change my life, shook his hand, and then walked off. As I walked away I heard him say to the other person, "sorry, I've lost my thread now.........".

Not the best day of my life.

I'll get my coat! Classic, but embarrassing all the same.

jake atkinson wrote:

That evening I met Steve and Hooky before they went on stage whilst somewhat bladdered. I think its fair to say I didn't make a good impression.

When I approached Hooky he was talking to Alan Wise. Hooky called Alan Wise a fat bastard and I said "you can talk". Why??!! Why would I say that??!! He just scowled at me.

I then scurried off, ashamed, and spotted Steven. He was talking to someone in an animated fashion, obviously building up to the punchline of a funny story. I walked straight up, told him he'd helped change my life, shook his hand, and then walked off. As I walked away I heard him say to the other person, "sorry, I've lost my thread now.........".

Not the best day of my life.

Maybe not but you've just brightened my morning.

Never met anyone from new Order.

However I have met Ian Broudie, very nice bloke.

Ultraviolent wrote: Never met anyone from new Order.

However I have met Ian Broudie, very nice bloke.

I'd love to meet him, he's done loads of great work, not just lightning seeds.

Never met em but have met Joe Strummer,Robert Smith (both of them got us into gig on guest list) and Siouxsie (met her in a deserted record shop while she was doing a signing).

Met Phil, Hooky and Andy Robinson at a night club in 2006. Very chatty and funny people.

Never met New Order, but I have met the drums(Likely that nobody gives a toss) and Donald Trump as well as Stevie Wonder. I do hope to meet Bernard one day, and ask him why he would make up words for early versions of the Village.

'Our love is like death on ice'

Boing Boing Binoche Binoche wrote: 'Our love is like death on ice'

"I see a hoo hah, and a hee hoo"

I have met Peter and Bernard as I live close by.

Interestingly this is a quote from Hooky in an interview from New Zealand regarding NO "We have no relationship. Our paths simply don't cross," says Hook bluntly.

I struggle with that as they live no more than a mile from each other and as I see them both knocking around the village - so they must see each other.

BTW - I still have to pluck up the courage to speak to either of them but when I have they have both been very nice and kieen to thank you for your support over the years

I saw that interview too and thought it was an interesting comment. I think their paths don't cross because they don't want them to. I also think that eventually they will cross again, and there'll be some reconciliation and maybe even a 'final' tour, although I doubt they'll get close enough to record together again.

I truely hope so - there would be some real closure if they toured one last time!

UpDownTurnAround wrote: I saw that interview too and thought it was an interesting comment. I think their paths don't cross because they don't want them to. I also think that eventually they will cross again, and there'll be some reconciliation and maybe even a 'final' tour, although I doubt they'll get close enough to record together again.

michael preda wrote: I have met the drums

whooooo?????

michael preda wrote: Likely that nobody gives a toss

damn right.

And I've met them all in either the Wimpy in Brixton Road c.1989, or a hotel in Regent's Park c.1994, and numerous other places (Hooky mainly).

I've met Missy Jem on numerous occasions, and she is far more entertaining.

Surface wrote: I truely hope so - there would be some real closure if they toured one last time!

UpDownTurnAround wrote: I saw that interview too and thought it was an interesting comment. I think their paths don't cross because they don't want them to. I also think that eventually they will cross again, and there'll be some reconciliation and maybe even a 'final' tour, although I doubt they'll get close enough to record together again.

I guess aggravated assault could constitute "closure" of sorts. I'll have to check with my psychotherapist.

Burt Burterson wrote:

michael preda wrote: I have met the drums

whooooo?????

michael preda wrote: Likely that nobody gives a toss

damn right.

And I've met them all in either the Wimpy in Brixton Road c.1989, or a hotel in Regent's Park c.1994, and numerous other places (Hooky mainly).

I've met Missy Jem on numerous occasions, and she is far more entertaining.

Rocket Mick pole dances on request. I've never seen any member of New Order reveal their own 'member' with Michael's patented erotic aplomb.

Surface wrote: I struggle with that as they live no more than a mile from each other and as I see them both knocking around the village - so they must see each other.

Perhaps it's simply a case of same place the wrong time

all nice people, dead friendly. the only time i met rob gretton, my mate dave called him a "coke addicted wanker", didn't go down too well. 2 weeks later , he was dead.

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Burt Burterson wrote:

michael preda wrote: I have met the drums

whooooo?????

michael preda wrote: Likely that nobody gives a toss

damn right.

And I've met them all in either the Wimpy in Brixton Road c.1989, or a hotel in Regent's Park c.1994, and numerous other places (Hooky mainly).

I've met Missy Jem on numerous occasions, and she is far more entertaining.

Rocket Mick pole dances on request. I've never seen any member of New Order reveal their own 'member' with Michael's patented erotic aplomb.

I do a dance m'self to Paradise. It's like a decadent flashback.

met all original new order plus rob gretton in the car park of the sobell centre in the afternoon of the gig-1985. We had gone over to the venue for a reckie and to see if we could sneak into the soundcheck like we did at blackburn, evading security. They arrived in a big black granada I think. We chatted about the upcoming (or previous) gig in Manchester since my friend and I went to both. They were friendly and appreciative, if quiet. We got their autographs on a scrap piece of paper and later a broken drumstick tossed into the crowd.

Met Peter Hook as part of Revenge in 1990, The Dial Derby. Watched the semi final England match with him, top bloke but was a bit shy at 17 to talk to him. He played a video game with my mate.

Met Steve and Gillian as I recently reported on here at a Cold Cave / Factory Floor gig. Top people really chatty and a good laugh.

Shook Bernards hand at a Bad Lieu gig in Sheffield.

Only other famous people I've met (all with a NO connection) are springwatch crew, Chris Packham is a New Order fan. Met Keith Allen and he has connections with NO. Oh and Pete Kember (Sonic Boom) Spacemen 3 / Spectrum who is very chatty with the fans (he probably likes NO)

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: I met Hook, Sumner and Gilbert after the New Order gig in Dallas back in 93...Sumner was pissed out of his fucking mind...Gilbert's only concern was finding Steve...'twas also quite interesting how she could talk without moving her lips...must be a norvern thing...

there...I'm fucking cool...

Absolutely so.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: I met Hook, Sumner and Gilbert after the New Order gig in Dallas back in 93...Sumner was pissed out of his fucking mind...Gilbert's only concern was finding Steve...'twas also quite interesting how she could talk without moving her lips...must be a norvern thing...

there...I'm fucking cool...

Burt Burterson wrote:

michael preda wrote: I have met the drums

whooooo?????

michael preda wrote: Likely that nobody gives a toss

damn right.

You wanna go surfing Burt

Only met Hooky at the book signing & outside a chippy in town, all i remember thinking is

Fuck me he's small.

Signed me 'how not to run club' with 'Steer clear of Missy Jem - Hooky'

Met Stephen a few times now, absolutely fucking nuts, they always dont meet your heroes but Steve is just fucking mint always got a spare 10 mins for you, unless your with Monty then you'll struggle to get a word in edge ways

UpDownTurnAround wrote: I saw that interview too and thought it was an interesting comment. I think their paths don't cross because they don't want them to. I also think that eventually they will cross again, and there'll be some reconciliation and maybe even a 'final' tour, although I doubt they'll get close enough to record together again.

perhaps it's hard for your paths to cross when one of you is floating around the carribian on a yacht, while the other is running all around the world playing in different band, djing, running (marketing?) a club and getting on telly as much as possible.

Geno wrote: Only met Hooky at the book signing & outside a chippy in town, all i remember thinking is

Fuck me he's small.

I didn't think he was that small, I'm 6'2" and he doesn't llok like a dwarf stood next to me, OK I stooped a little, but I wouldn't say he's as small as people make out. (or Bernard for that matter as I think they're about the same height, before someone says "Jed you'd crawl naked through broken glass to put matches in his shit!")

The Shadow wrote: Only other famous people I've met (all with a NO connection) are springwatch crew, Chris Packham is a New Order fan. Met Keith Allen and he has connections with NO. Oh and Pete Kember (Sonic Boom) Spacemen 3 / Spectrum who is very chatty with the fans (he probably likes NO)

I have a chapter in the "The Day I Met Morrissey" book if that counts for anything...........

Jed Stephens wrote:

UpDownTurnAround wrote: I saw that interview too and thought it was an interesting comment. I think their paths don't cross because they don't want them to. I also think that eventually they will cross again, and there'll be some reconciliation and maybe even a 'final' tour, although I doubt they'll get close enough to record together again.

perhaps it's hard for your paths to cross when one of you is floating around the carribian on a yacht, while the other is running all around the world playing in different band, djing, running (marketing?) a club and getting on telly as much as possible.

Sorry, can't agree with that Jed, there seems to be a perception that Bernard is on a boat in some far out place but when I bumped into him a couple of weeks back he said he was off to the south coast. Also, Hookey seems to ne home most weekend when I walk by. Maybe they should take a listen to the Gary Barlow/Robbie Williams song and have a think about it!

For me a last hurrah would bring perfect closure to the whole JD/NO era and what they need to understand is that in the main it's the music we love and are not interested in their ego's and fall outs

Denholm Reynholm wrote:

Jed Stephens wrote: perhaps it's hard for your paths to cross when one of you is floating around the carribian on a yacht, while the other is running all around the world playing in different band, djing, running (marketing?) a club and getting on telly as much as possible.

Mmmm... Jed when you complain that some folk on here insinuate that you brown-nose a certain bass player too much, posts like this really don't help. The inference here comes off as: Bernard does bugger all while Hooky barely has time to stop for a cuppa and is a man of the people. Lest we forget that Bernard was writing, promoting and touring Bad Lieutenant well before we heard a note of Hooky's stuff? Credit where it's due...

As for meeting the band, I've probably shared most of the recent Hooky autographing and DJing events of the past couple of years as everyone else. First met Hooky at the final "proper" Monaco gig in London in 2000 and he was as pissed as a fart but extremely friendly. Arthur Baker was wandering around in the background which was a bit surreal. Had the pleasure of meeting Bernard and Phil at the Bad Lieutenant FNAC signing in Paris last year which was also very enjoyable.

Good point,fair enough, I'll try to be less biased and less of an arse in future. I'm sure Bernard is very hardworking, it's just that you don't see/hear of it as much, some might say that's because he's less of a media whore than Hooky.

A couple of years ago a mate of mine who is a psychiatric nurse directed Stephen and his daughter around Macclesfield hospital as they were late for an appointment. He said he was very friendly and a little whacky.

Surface wrote:

For me a last hurrah would bring perfect closure to the whole JD/NO era and what they need to understand is that in the main it's the music we love and are not interested in their ego's and fall outs

Like everyone on here I hold out hope for a reconcilliation but Im surprised at how many folk think it would be a 'Farewell Tour' type of thing. Id like to think if they got back together (with Gillian) it would be for another album and all the gubbins that goes along with it.

As for meeting them I would probably either stand and piss myself or simply go mute. Or both.

Hooky walked right past me at that rob gretton thingy. I totally froze while he shook peoples hands and posed for photos. Totally starstruck...

Not really met anyone mega famous. Singer from keane... oh and I said hello to Carlton Palmer once. Lol

i also saw hooky at the gretton thing,as me and a couple of mates left i spotted hooky just about to get into a people carrier according to my mates(i was leathered...but kind of remember it)i said "sorry about this but i'm going to make a dick out of myself..." and i shouted "hooky" which was apparently really high pitched,ran down the stairs outside the ritz and slid across a car bonnet to shake his hand and said thanks

why i said thanks i have no idea

I met Hooky in the queue for the guestlist at a Mondays gig at the ritz in 2007 (I think). He was a bit abrupt but I felt like I had waited my entire life for that moment and I didnt act myself by any means

Then, when I was working at Apple, after dealing with the worlds biggest arsehole, I turn around and Stephen Morris is stood there with a hard drive in his hand, waiting to be served.

Needless to say, I got a mate to take a photo and he seemed really happy to stay and chat for about 15 mins.

Then I met hooky again at an in store last year. Signed loads of my rare new order items and thanked me for buying them etc.

Yet to meet Bernard and Gillian but I'm certain it will happen some day soon

43 years ago this month was when I first met Bernard and Peter in Johnny Barkers maths lesson. First day at big school. Five years later they left school. I carried on. Didnt meet Peter again until Ian Curtis' tribute night in Manchester in 2005. He was ahead of me walking towards Exchange Square. I quickened my pace and caught him up. "I've been trying to catch up with you for 33 years" I said. "Fuckin hell you must have been walking slowly" he said.

Saw Bernard, Hooky, Steve and Gillian outside the Civic Hall after at their last gig in Wolverhampton. The miserable twats drove off in their Audis and Range Rovers without signing any autographs or talking to fans. Album royalties are a wonderful thing, obviously.

On a brighter note, have met Bob Carolgees and Spit The Dog (google them), though, so my life ain't all that bad.

a very small boy wrote: 43 years ago this month was when I first met Bernard and Peter in Johnny Barkers maths lesson. First day at big school. Five years later they left school. I carried on. Didnt meet Peter again until Ian Curtis' tribute night in Manchester in 2005. He was ahead of me walking towards Exchange Square. I quickened my pace and caught him up. "I've been trying to catch up with you for 33 years" I said. "Fuckin hell you must have been walking slowly" he said.

my hero is dead.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: Can't say that I blame them for wanting to get the fuck out of Wolverhampton...I gave VirginTrains 50 extra notes so I could leave an hour earlier the next morning...

It currently looks like one massive building site from the station at the moment - I think they're rebuilding the bus station at the moment, and then they're going to rebuild the train station (which will be fun)... :p

Should have carried on flattening vietnam. We've got working sewers, electricity and everything. Don't knock it until you've tried it, you tosser.

It would be brilliant if some of these stories were on http://www.elegia.co.uk

I've met Hooky and Bernard, Hooky backstage at Reading '93 and Bernard in a petrol station.

However my friend claims to have dealt with an insurance claim for Mr Hook after he had a prang in his 4x4 which apparently led to a slight altercation between Mr H and another hapless motorist.

Were you that motorist?

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

Ian Edwards wrote: Saw Bernard, Hooky, Steve and Gillian outside the Civic Hall after at their last gig in Wolverhampton. The miserable twats drove off in their Audis and Range Rovers without signing any autographs or talking to fans. Album royalties are a wonderful thing, obviously.

On a brighter note, have met Bob Carolgees and Spit The Dog (google them), though, so my life ain't all that bad.

Can't say that I blame them for wanting to get the fuck out of Wolverhampton...I gave VirginTrains 50 extra notes so I could leave an hour earlier the next morning...

:D :D

....locals that don't stink of horrendous body odour and shit in buckets. Bring it on...

Not me but I know a woman who's car hookey bumped into in his 4 x 4, could be what you mate dealt with!

galgo23 wrote: I've met Hooky and Bernard, Hooky backstage at Reading '93 and Bernard in a petrol station.

However my friend claims to have dealt with an insurance claim for Mr Hook after he had a prang in his 4x4 which apparently led to a slight altercation between Mr H and another hapless motorist.

Were you that motorist?

Ian Edwards wrote: ....locals that don't stink of horrendous body odour and shit in buckets.

you sure? I thought that was 'eau du Molyneux'

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

Burt Burterson wrote:

Ian Edwards wrote: ....locals that don't stink of horrendous body odour and shit in buckets.

you sure? I thought that was 'eau du Molyneux'

Burt...I'm not quite sure what young Mr. Edwards is trying to say...but are you calling him a liar???

Don't drag me into it. I want to watch the moderator vs newbie stand-off. :popcorn: