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The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum is pleased to welcome Peter Hook, co-founder of post-punk bands Joy Division and New Order, for a special Legends Series interview on Tuesday, November 30 at 7 p.m. in the Rock Hall’s Foster Theater.

Hook will be interviewed by the Rock Hall’s Director of Education Jason Hanley. Questions will be taken from the audience at the end of the interview. Hook will also be performing a selection of songs from Joy Division’s seminal album, Unknown Pleasures.

Born in 1956 in Salford, England, legendary bass guitarist Peter Hook remains energetically devoted to music, rock and roll and the experiences that his three decade career has given him with bands like Joy Division and New Order, which he co-founded, as well as Revenge, Monaco and Freebass. He is also the director of the infamous Fac 51 The Hacienda and manager of the Manchester indie venue the Factory.

A well respected rock and roll icon, Hook is known for his droning bass lines which dominated the sounds of Joy Division and New Order. He overcame the trend of badly tuned guitars during the punk rock era and made the throbbing beat of the bass stress the importance of rhythm. Hook has become synonymous with the Manchester music scene and what it represents culturally. As a DJ, he is one of the most sought after in the world, both as himself and also with the revived Haçienda, and he continues to record and produce new music.

Most recently Hook has opened a new chapter on his life, as a critically acclaimed author with his honest to account of the turbulent times of the Haçienda years in the critically acclaimed The Haçienda – How Not To Run A Club. He is also presently writing his second book on Joy Division and plans a book to follow on New Order.

Having decided to commemorate the 30 year anniversary of Joy Division lead vocalist Ian Curtis’ passing by performing Unknown Pleasures in two charity supporting concerts at The Factory in Manchester with his band The Light, the band has been invited from around the world for these special concerts and over the Summer of 2010.

Over September and October 2010 Hooky and the Light undertook sold out tours of Australia, New Zealand and Spain before performing a three date tour of Italy in late November prior to this coast to coast tour of The States. Next year, the group will tour Europe in February 2011 and begin writing and recording new material.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum has a spotlight exhibit on Joy Division and New Order in the Ahmet M. Ertegun Main Exhibit Hall. Featured in the exhibit is Peter Hook’s bass guitar, Bernard Sumner’s acoustic guitar, concert posters, ticket stubs, original handwritten lyrics to songs like “Love Will Tear Us Apart” and “Blue Monday” and more.

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Shit the list is full!
Need some providence... If anyone can get me in on the list?!?!?! Praying...

please pm

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Sorted!

James & Jack- 'Top Class'. Providence indeed. Thanks- much appreciated.

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Pretty magical nite.

Thanks to James, Jack & Jason Hanley for getting me in. Very much appreciated. I can't thank you folks enough.

Jason from the Hall of Fame made the intro & played a video clip. The clip had the man that ran IKON video. It was an old clip & it was 'funny' that he mentioned videocassette, note this was prior DVD's, streaming & whatnot. The clips in the video ranged the whole history of JD & NO. Hooky made the quip that it was a history of his many hairstyles through the ages.

I was fortunate enough to be in the second row. Hooky's Eccleshall bass is a beauty. Was was quite cool on the headstock was Viking. Hooky used a line 6 delay modeller [DD4? green box] into his ubiquitous EH Clone Theory into a Boss tuner. Ampeg cab & Ampeg SVT head. Valve [tubes fer American's]. He started out with Elegia. It was different than on Low Life & the Box Set. Different synth sounds. Next was the Happy One from the Technique sessions. I love this 'jam' and was quite happy to here it live. One would not really ever hear it in a concert setting. Priceless. Sooner Than You Think [Thanks Jason]. Again a different version from what is on Low Life. I assume because of some of the synth sounds it is a relatively recent reworking.

Next was a Q&A with Hooky and Jason Hanley of the Hall. Jason did a masterful job of interviewing. I spoke with him afterwards and he is a 'top bloke'. He is a real fan of JD & NO. This did not get in the way of the interview with Hooky. Many times the interviewer interrupts the interviewee and harms the 'ebb and flow' of the conversation. This did not happen. Jason just let Hooky answer and really dive into the many topics discussed. Off the top of my head:

Unknown Pleasures took about 2 days in the studio. Canidate & Autosuggestion were done in the studio at Hannet's behest because he thought he needed two more songs. Canidate was a jam between Hook & Morris. Sumner & Curtis later added guitar & lyrics. Hook said to listen to Canidate because he thinks it is 'unfinished' and essentially is a on the spot jam. Later in the conversation he said LWTUA took three hours to finish. TPK 6 months BM 4 months. He recalled that the sequencer used for BM was custom & proprietary and that if one made a mistake during the sequencing one would have to start all over. He recalled Barney counting off and entering data. Pretty amazing insight & story. Nowadays one just drags and drops or cuts/pastes MIDI & audio. The progression of technology is amazing. Hooky also said that it is amazing that Waiting for the Sirens call took 3 years and that Joy Division songs just poured out because they had a limited time at the rehearsal studio [TJ Davidson] 3 pound for 3 hours if I recall. So Joy Division was really focused and came in ready to create. He said Steve & him created the rhythm/bass to LWTUA and Ian overnight came up with the lyrics. Jason commented that many of Ian's lyrics followed the melodies of the bass and that gave JD such a unique and special quality. Hooky agreed and was honored that Ian 'followed' 'mirrored' his melodies. Jason is a trained musicologist and it really showed during the interview with his 'technical' insight. He understands the history, time and place of JD [also NO].

Hooky was in a good mood & quite humorous. He spoke for a long while. He was very complimentary of Steven, Bernard & Gillian. He said that it took longer for NO to write songs. Ian was the 'spotter' meaning when he heard a riff be it bass or drums he'd say play that 'phrase'. Also Ian said 'Steve play those jungle drums'. He mentioned that Bernard was a genius getting sounds out of synths but it was tough in that he was taking hours upon hours 'twiddling knobs' [my words] while everyone else was waiting around. Yet after all the wait the end result was worth it.

There was much more that was covered but Hooky was really engaging, witty and funny. At the end I rose up really quickly and asked Hooky if he would sign my book- How Not to Run a Club... He graciously did. I also pulled out a Sounds with him on the Cover 'Peter Hooks Revenge'. I told him I first saw him in '83 in Detroit St Andrews Hall he seemed quite impressed and had an expression 'God that long ago'. I interjected that I was a Viking before that termed was coined he nodded & smiled. I also got a picture of him & I which I will post later. I was quite happy that I got him to sign my things- because many other brought CD, albums & whatnot to sign. Hooky was just ready to go backstage & it was nice that he stopped to sign mine and many others belongings. It was quite gracious of him. That was not part of the planned 'program' and it really reflects well on him that he took the time.

I will write more when it comes to me. I hope that the stream could get posted for all to access. It was such an insightful & special evening. It was worth the 2 & half hour drive. I knew in my soul it would be.

The Gibson Peter Saville guitar was in the lobby. It is David Sultan's. David was there but I did not get to meet him. I wish I did.

Also the backing tracks were on a Mac Pro laptop. I think they used a Line 6 LX2[?] USB interface. I have one in the closet - it has a red & black plastic shell & silver knobs for levels. Thanks again James, Jack & Jason - 'Top Shelf indeed'

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That was interesting,thanks for posting..

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Thanks for that exquisitely written recap of the evening, Mr. Hamill. Felt like I was there!

I appreciate that you posted the technical information about NO (TPK took six months to record? Wow!) as well as the tech stuff that Hooky was using.

Also nice to hear that Hooky was full of praise for Steve, Gillian, and especially Barney. Hopefully the bad blood between them will eventually run clean.

Hooky is a top class guy. Everytime I have ever written him on Myspace, he has taken the time to write me back.

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Mr Starkey, Exquisite indeed. Hooky is top notch. I wrote down some more things that I remembered and will add soon. I just scanned the set list from Akron '85. Can any one help/instruct me to upload it into this link?

It was such a treat being in a small place being able to see his fingers move as opposed to being in a 10,000+ arena watching a video screen, with a overpriced $15 beer in hand... His bass is a piece of artwork. Stunning. It has to play better than any of his Gibson semihollow's...

He spoke for a while and said quite a piece! Cheers.

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First of all, let me say... I found out about this event the DAY AFTER it happened.

:cry:

Honest to God, I about wept. I can walk to the Rock Hall from my office in 10 minutes. I would have been there all day stalking Hooky. I swear I'm the only one on here who doesn't have a photo with the man.

In any case, the Rock Hall has posted a video excerpt:

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Whatever the other surviving JD members say about the tour in public, this tour is good for everyone because it brings JD to the attention of generations not yet born when JD existed. That should lead to sales of original albums which all the original JD members get royalties from. Granted, only Hooky gets the take from the shows but let's face it, the other original JD members did not want to tour playing JD anyway, which I believe was one of the reasons for the breakup. So in the end this is a win-win for all concerned.

P.S. I thoroughly enjoyed their show at the 9:30 Club in D.C.

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Aaron Gerritz wrote: Whatever the other surviving JD members say about the tour in public, this tour is good for everyone because it brings JD to the attention of generations not yet born when JD existed. That should lead to sales of original albums which all the original JD members get royalties from. Granted, only Hooky gets the take from the shows but let's face it, the other original JD members did not want to tour playing JD anyway, which I believe was one of the reasons for the breakup. So in the end this is a win-win for all concerned.

P.S. I thoroughly enjoyed their show at the 9:30 Club in D.C.

Most younger fans who currently listen to JD (for example, those born after Ian's death, or whatever, myself included) have been listening to JD even before Hooky-touring-JD happened. And, the music will always live on...the Hooky tour is not the only way for younger people and future generations to discover JD's music. Even if this tour didn't exist, there's plenty of media and online exposure (in magazines around the world, online etc...) about Joy Division (perhaps more than enough?), even to this day. I'm not saying that Hooky shouldn't tour---it's just I wanted to point that out.

That said, I don't care if people see Hooky or if Hooky does this touring thing. I'm not too much of a fan of this nostalgia, but if others want to see him and enjoy the music, then that's not my concern---they should rightfully enjoy it.

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Leather Girl,

Point taken. But for those of us who never got to see JD live because they never ventured further than the U.K. and continental Europe, we waited 30 years for this tour and are now rewarded.

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Wrote down some more things that I remember:

Martin Hannett used plate reverbs more than AMS delay especially on Unknown Pleasures.

It was Barney's suggestion to use chorus ie the Clone Theory on his bass.

As a young band they were more 'focused' and more 'unified'.

Anthony Wilson: 'Good that you are not making money [mid-80's] That keeps you focused.

The taxman & Peter Gabriel of Real World Studios has a lot of Hooky's pound sterling.

'They' told me that maybe you shouldn't play bass on this one [this one being Waiting for the Sirens call.] 'That's why I like U2 they are a unit.' I have to comment on this- I believe Hooky on this one. I've read numerous times about U2 being 4 legs of a table. So is JD/NO- pretty dang crass of whomever suggested that. Killing the golden goose. It is a group... Off my soapbox.]

If anyone leaves the band the band is no longer JD/NO.

For Power, Corruption & Lies Quincy Jones liked the mix as is. He did not see the need for it to me remixed. Getting the impramnteur[sp] from 'God' that it is good. Yes! [Sweet I had never heard this story. imho the best NO album.]

Kraftwerk reserved time in the same studio in which BM was done. They had NO's engineer picked to work there too. Kraftwerk saw the equipment that it was old & shit and stormed out. They could not believe that NO used that equipment to record what they considered was the [in my own words] penultimate in audio at the time...

I hope either Hooky or David Sultan can chime in on what are the orgins of the versions of Elegia & Sooner Than You Think.

I asked two questions: Do you have a home studio & what is in it? A: I don't have one... Just get someone to come over & work with me.

What are some of your own personal favorite Spinal Tap Moments? A: Hello Cleveland. What you see in the Spinal Tap movie & Get Him To The Greek is real... It is reflective [my words...]

So there you go. What a gracious thing for Hooky to come to Cleveland Ohio and play & spend some time. I just hope for Closer/Movement/PC&L he PLAYS here. It has been to long! Columbus, Cleveland, Cinci, heck even Toledo. Come back soon!

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gurcan needs to be banned for spamming this crap in every single recent thread here.

who is with me?

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