New Order 'a paradigm of postmodern visual style'

Although most round here seem to think enjoyable reading constitutes flicking through the instruction manual for obsolete drum machines, one or two people might find the following interesting (from the book review section of this weekend's 'Guardian').

"Glenn Adamson and Jane Pavitt, the curators of the V&A show, point to the video for New Order's "Bizarre Love Triangle" as a paradigm of postmodern visual style. Its director, the New York artist Robert Longo, produced a palimpsest of decontextualised, pixellated imagery, incorporating a signature of his Men in the Cities series of images of contorted, falling figures dressed in business wear. Post 9/11 this is uncomfortable to watch, which makes it even more curious that Mad Men, the popular TV drama, alludes to Longo's figures in its title sequence, which has a businessman falling past a façade that inescapably calls to mind the most famously absent international style buildings in Manhattan, the twin towers of Minoru Yamasaki's World Trade Center."

Snide comments about 'New Order' being a simulacra these days are probably redundant. Elsewhere, the band get namechecked repeatedly in Gregg Araki's film "Kaboom". As ever.

...but no mention of BUCKETHEADS.

worra loada of old shit.

And quote me.

Nice to see the word 'palimpsest' in use though.

And i did have to google simulacra.

too pissed to understand any of that

RIP all those who died on 11/9

A video made in 1986 is uncomfortable to watch because of something that happened in 2001? Are we really going there?

As someone I know once pointed out, Americans refer to that terrible day as 9/11 and an awful lot of emergency workers died that day too. And what number do Americans dial when they need the emergency services?

911.

He then went on to detail his suspicions that the planes had no windows and it was all a government conspiracy thus confirming my belief that he was a fucking idiot.

Burt Burterson wrote: worra loada of old shit.

I've been using that video in classes for 11 years. "Worra load of old shit" is what the students generally think of New Order.

Gene wrote: ... and it was all a government conspiracy thus confirming my belief that he was a fucking idiot.

I've read hours of this conspiracy shit but have never seen a better summary!

Bunkum

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Burt Burterson wrote: worra loada of old shit.

I've been using that video in classes for 11 years. "Worra load of old shit" is what the students generally think of New Order.

Funny, most of the art and design and video people I know in NYC love the BLT video.

I love it as well!

Zachery Starkey wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Burt Burterson wrote: worra loada of old shit.

I've been using that video in classes for 11 years. "Worra load of old shit" is what the students generally think of New Order.

Funny, most of the art and design and video people I know in NYC love the BLT video.

I love it as well!

Oh, they like the video - very different from what appears on MTV these days. It's the music they balk at.

The scene when the music stops half way through and the woman is on about refusing to believe in reincarnation etc and the guy says 'you're a really up person" is from some film? Or they made that scene for the video?

johnny wrote: The scene when the music stops half way through and the woman is on about refusing to believe in reincarnation etc and the guy says 'you're a really up person" is from some film? Or they made that scene for the video?

i've always wondered about that too, someone must know.

If people get all upset whenever they see someone falling, even when it's jumping on a trampoline, then they need to ramain on solid ground constantly, demolish all builings with more than one floor and just have massive bungalows.

johnny wrote: The scene when the music stops half way through and the woman is on about refusing to believe in reincarnation etc and the guy says 'you're a really up person" is from some film? Or they made that scene for the video?

I read on the Shamberg site that it was made specifically for the video:

There was one other element which Robert wanted and that was to shoot a small scene between three people in black and white 35mm film recording them speaking lines that Robert had written for them. I remember that E. Max Frye, the writer of the Jonathan Demme film “Something Wild”, argues with Jodi Long, who was an actress who played in Paul Shrader's film on Patty Hearst. I believe that this was the first time a music video had an unrelated scene cut in to the middle of the video interrupting the song for the length of the scene. I sadly cannot remember the name of the other woman in the scene but I believe she was a friend of Robert's.

Info on the BLT video LINK

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Burt Burterson wrote: worra loada of old shit.

I've been using that video in classes for 11 years. "Worra load of old shit" is what the students generally think of New Order.

Funny, most of the art and design and video people I know in NYC love the BLT video.

I love it as well!

Oh, they like the video - very different from what appears on MTV these days. It's the music they balk at.

Just about all of the designers, artists, photography, and media people that I know love New Order. These are all people under the age of 30, by the way.

Thanks for the info, people

Zachery Starkey wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Burt Burterson wrote: worra loada of old shit.

I've been using that video in classes for 11 years. "Worra load of old shit" is what the students generally think of New Order.

Funny, most of the art and design and video people I know in NYC love the BLT video.

I love it as well!

Oh, they like the video - very different from what appears on MTV these days. It's the music they balk at.

Just about all of the that I know love New Order. These are all people under the age of 30, by the way.

Very good. The day I know any "designers, artists, photograph, and media people" is the day I wake up with a two foot cock and Natalie Portman sitting on my face.

Go fuck yourself, "Zachary".

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Burt Burterson wrote: worra loada of old shit.

I've been using that video in classes for 11 years. "Worra load of old shit" is what the students generally think of New Order.

Funny, most of the art and design and video people I know in NYC love the BLT video.

I love it as well!

Oh, they like the video - very different from what appears on MTV these days. It's the music they balk at.

Just about all of the that I know love New Order. These are all people under the age of 30, by the way.

Very good. The day I know any "designers, artists, photograph, and media people" is the day I wake up with a two foot cock and Natalie Portman sitting on my face.

Go fuck yourself, "Zachary".

Why, NO have always been quite an intellectual band, you know.

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Burt Burterson wrote: worra loada of old shit.

I've been using that video in classes for 11 years. "Worra load of old shit" is what the students generally think of New Order.

Funny, most of the art and design and video people I know in NYC love the BLT video.

I love it as well!

Oh, they like the video - very different from what appears on MTV these days. It's the music they balk at.

Just about all of the that I know love New Order. These are all people under the age of 30, by the way.

Very good. The day I know any "designers, artists, photograph, and media people" is the day I wake up with a two foot cock and Natalie Portman sitting on my face.

Go fuck yourself, "Zachary".

What in the hell is wrong with you?

And my name is spelled "ery". I would imagine that since you are a teacher, you would know how to spell.

I know lots of people under the age of 30 who don't work in creative fields who love New Order too. I am sorry that you find this hard to believe, so hard that you have to insult me and question the spelling of my name.