At least that's what he told the DJ on WFNX in Boston last night - he plans to play all his LPs live before he retires. Unfortunately, didn't get to his show in town, but he sounded good on the radio (he DJ'd for an hour). Though he said something to the effect of the other three "taking New Order for their evil purposes."
Hooky will be doing a WFTSC Tour!
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Not as ridiculous as it first sounds - because the bass is pretty low in the mix on that album, so would be interesting to hear how Hooky would have liked it to sound.. though I dread to think how old he will be when he gets around to touring it. He might need a zimmer on the stage. ![]()
Yeah. I've been critical of him for doing this who The Light thing, but he sounds so sincere and enthused when talking about doing the albums live that I wish I could've seen him last night. I suppose I'll have a few more opportunities (though I said that when I had to miss NO's last NYC date!). He also sounded a bit charitable toward Stephen and Bernard too at times: he said Bernard wants nothing to do with the past (i.e. playing JD), which is alright with him (said in a very reasonable way).
Shakin' Baker wrote: Yeah. I've been critical of him for doing this who The Light thing, but he sounds so sincere and enthused when talking about doing the albums live that I wish I could've seen him last night. I suppose I'll have a few more opportunities (though I said that when I had to miss NO's last NYC date!). He also sounded a bit charitable toward Stephen and Bernard too at times: he said Bernard wants nothing to do with the past (i.e. playing JD), which is alright with him (said in a very reasonable way).
Bernard still plays JD songs under the name Bad Lieutenant. Maybe he meant not playing a complete JD album live.
Even if it's 1 year per album...that's quite a lot of touring isn't it? I wonder why and how he can manage to be so busy, especially when he says he wants to write a book about New Order (no doubt would probably take longer to write than a book about Joy Division). His enthusiasm and energy to travel and tour---nice, but I must admit I'm not interested. If I had the money and time, I'd rather go see Bad Lieu or New Order. That's just me; I try to be respectful as possible.
leather_girl wrote: http://exclaim.ca/News/peter_hook_to_unveil_more_joy_division_new_order_tours_retrospective_books_rare_b-sides
The real question is, what do Hook's former bandmates think of his plan to revisit and reassess his past work? "I think they think it sucks," he says. "It's quite odd really, because both Bernard [Sumner] and Stephen [Morris] play Joy Division and New Order tracks in Bad Lieutenant, quite a few of them, before I did Unknown Pleasures. So, to be honest with you, I don't know what the fuck they're moaning about, because they did it first."
To be fair, Bad Lieutenant played a few Joy Division and New Order tracks alongside mostly new material. The comparison is not really applicable no matter how sycophantic you are to either side. Hooky is performing entire gigs comprised of nothing but historical material written jointly by Curtis/Hook/Morris/Sumner whereas Bad Lieutenant at least made the effort to put out a new album. Surely that is to be admired? Making an effort to write a few new tunes? Even if you think they're shite.
I really don't get his point of view these days. He feels totally vindicated "purely" touring every JD/NO album since the beginning of time but when the others do so much as a 3 man cover version of a few JDNO classics he gets really pissed off with it. Surely I can't be the only fan noticing the disparity of it all? It's absurd.
Ah well ![]()
NotAMod wrote:
leather_girl wrote: http://exclaim.ca/News/peter_hook_to_unveil_more_joy_division_new_order_tours_retrospective_books_rare_b-sides
The real question is, what do Hook's former bandmates think of his plan to revisit and reassess his past work? "I think they think it sucks," he says. "It's quite odd really, because both Bernard [Sumner] and Stephen [Morris] play Joy Division and New Order tracks in Bad Lieutenant, quite a few of them, before I did Unknown Pleasures. So, to be honest with you, I don't know what the fuck they're moaning about, because they did it first."
I really don't get his point of view these days. He feels totally vindicated "purely" touring every JDNO album since the beginning of time but when the others do so much as a three-quarters-member version of Ceremony or LWTUA he gets really fucked off with them. Surely I can't be the only fan noticing the disparity of it all? It's absurd.
Ah well.
You're not the only fan noticing that. Of course, please understand that was not my point of posting this (I'm not trying to turn this into a 10 page discussion), but rather that he seems very clear that he wants to tour more albums after UP/Closer (whether that is Movement or anything else, who knows?). And he even shows the desire to tour other albums beyond that. But yes, I did notice something a bit odd about what you mentioned.
Shakin' Baker wrote: At least that's what he told the DJ on WFNX in Boston last night - he plans to play all his LPs live before he retires.
Right, so we have:
- Unknown Pleasures (done)
- Closer (done)
- Still (rumoured)
- Movement (rumoured, probably including 1981-FEP 313-1982)
- Power, Corruption & Lies
- Low-life
- Brotherhood
- Substance 1987 (a 2 disc job re-re-visiting older songs)
- Technique
- One True Passion (including Gun World Porn EP)
- Republic
- Music For Pleasure (plus the 2nd eponymous album?)
- Get Ready
- Waiting For The Sirens' Call (+ Hellbent etc)
If he performs all of these from this day forward in terms of individual tours I will be well impressed. I'm not joking, I may even go to a few of them as I love the music and The Light are a pretty good live band but it's still fucking mad ![]()
everyoneverywhere wrote: I dread to think how old he will be when he gets around to touring it. He might need a zimmer on the stage.
Well, Sir Mick's pushing 70, and he certainly doesn't look daft!!!
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NotAMod wrote:
Shakin' Baker wrote: At least that's what he told the DJ on WFNX in Boston last night - he plans to play all his LPs live before he retires.
Right, so we have:
- Unknown Pleasures (done)
- Closer (done)
- Still (rumoured)
- Movement (rumoured, probably including 1981-FEP 313-1982)
- Power, Corruption & Lies
- Low-life
- Brotherhood
- Substance 1987 (a 2 disc job re-re-visiting older songs)
- Technique
- One True Passion (including Gun World Porn EP)
- Republic
- Music For Pleasure (plus the 2nd eponymous album?)
- Get Ready
- Waiting For The Sirens' Call (+ Hellbent etc)
If he performs all of these from this day forward in terms of individual tours I will be well impressed. I'm not joking, I may even go to a few of them as I love the music and The Light are a pretty good live band but it's still fucking mad
It does mean that, creatively speaking, he already HAS retired. So, nothing more to hear from Hooky except the past relived.
NotAMod wrote: Right, so we have:
- Unknown Pleasures (done)
- Closer (done)
- Still (rumoured)
- Movement (rumoured, probably including 1981-FEP 313-1982)
- Power, Corruption & Lies
- Low-life
- Brotherhood
- Substance 1987 (a 2 disc job re-re-visiting older songs)
- Technique
- One True Passion (including Gun World Porn EP)
- Republic
- Music For Pleasure (plus the 2nd eponymous album?)
- Get Ready
- Waiting For The Sirens' Call (+ Hellbent etc)
So we can expect the WFTSC extravaganza to roll into town in - what? - 2023, maybe?
Can't see a lot of interest being shown in that to be honest. ![]()
Gene wrote: I think he was taking the piss.
He may have been about trying to tour all of his own albums. But he's obviously not joking about Unknown Pleasures/Closer right now. I know that doesn't mean he's actually going to try to tour...his enthusiasm and energy to tour is admirable however.