Anyone know what songs they had originally planned to do at Rock Around The Clock, BBC, 8/84?

Often wondered and been curious to know what songs they originally planned to do but had to ditch because of tech issues. Just listening again to the Heaven Ultradisco boot from couple of nights after the Rock Around The Clock thing.Thieves Like Us is good, would have liked to see them do that at BBC instead of say, Blue Monday.Perfect Kiss would have been grand too. Always thought it a bit of shame they only did one new song at the Beeb that day, Sooner Than You Think.

johnny wrote: Often wondered and been curious to know what songs they originally planned to do but had to ditch because of tech issues. Just listening again to the Heaven Ultradisco boot from couple of nights after the Rock Around The Clock thing.Thieves Like Us is good, would have liked to see them do that at BBC instead of say, Blue Monday.Perfect Kiss would have been grand too. Always thought it a bit of shame they only did one new song at the Beeb that day, Sooner Than You Think.

The one new song - Sooner Than You Think - was really good. I remember the first time I heard that I thought, "this could be the next single" but it wasn't of course.

They did that one, Age of Consent, Blue Monday, In A Lonely Place and an equally good version of Temptation. Shame this latter wasn't issued as a 'session' track later on.... I really liked it.

And I can never forget Bernard exhorting Steve to play 'faster' during a rather unhinged take of "In A Lonely Place" - then again he could have been saying "bastard" at a later point .

I got a CD-R of this session sent to me from Rocket Mick some years back now when I did a quiz on this forum or summat - so grateful to him for sending one to me, it was much appreciated only cos up until then I had just a crummy c90 taped version of this when BBC one initially broadcast it. :)

Yeah watched and taped the radio and tv live as it 'appened, the radio broadcast went on a few minutes longer than the tv. Hadn't yet got into buying and collecting the gig bootlegs back then so Sooner Than You Think was the only new song i had to go on for 9 months pre the release of Low Life. That wasn't a bad thing in a way as the rest of the songs on the album were then totally new to me when it was finally released. Still curious to know what songs they had planned to do though

Always grateful to a workmate who told me just a couple of days before that the Rock Around The Clock was going to feature NO, i wouldn't have known they were on and would have missed it

Can't for the life of me remember why i never got into buying the bootleg gig cassettes before about 1986, they were advertised every flippin week in the NME ads section but i never sent off for any

Tony Wilson was bigging up the Perfect kiss as an example of how the order had moved on and it would be well worth watching for,, as it hapened tec dificulties prevented this one,, dont know about any others culled though,, out of time out of tune thats new order then.

I know, you know we believe.

What also baffled me was why New Order - at that time - chose to release The Perfect Kiss as a single THE VERY SAME DAY THAT THE PARENT ALBUM LOW-LIFE WAS RELEASED, which I thought was kind of self-sabotage because as we all know the single failed to make the top 40 simply cos it was already on the album (albeit in badly edited form).

In fact, the surprise for many fans then was that the album contained a single at all, cos of course we never expected New Order to include singles on albums up to that point. As it happened, they lifted a second later on - Sub-Culture - and again its chart position was truly dire (but then that could be summat to do with how godawful the remixes were of course!!!!).

Them were great days an' all weren't they though ? Mid 80s - vintage 'awkward' New Order....sigh.....

I remember reading here that they'd been gigging the night before down in Devon or somewhere and we obliged to drive back to London overnight to play Rock Around The Clock. They were knackered which accounts for why they're pissed off.

Barney telling Steve to speed up on In A Lonely Place is classic as is the way Gillian plays the string riff on Age Of Consent; the way she turns her hand around to play the lower notes!

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: What also baffled me was why New Order - at that time - chose to release The Perfect Kiss as a single THE VERY SAME DAY THAT THE PARENT ALBUM LOW-LIFE WAS RELEASED, which I thought was kind of self-sabotage because as we all know the single failed to make the top 40 simply cos it was already on the album (albeit in badly edited form).

I was always baffled at why people wouldn't buy the single as well as the album, because it's different, but that was before I knew I had a problem with trying to buy every release i could (though no where near as bad as some on here!) it seriously never occured to me NOT to buy the singles even if they were on the album.

on a slightly different subject, I can't remember how we found out about things back then, before the internet, I was never a big reader of NME, sounds melody maker etc and didn't listen to radio much but always seemed to know when a record was being released, perhaps there's other reasons I don't remember though! :beer2:

Jed Stephens wrote:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: What also baffled me was why New Order - at that time - chose to release The Perfect Kiss as a single THE VERY SAME DAY THAT THE PARENT ALBUM LOW-LIFE WAS RELEASED, which I thought was kind of self-sabotage because as we all know the single failed to make the top 40 simply cos it was already on the album (albeit in badly edited form).

I was always baffled at why people wouldn't buy the single as well as the album, because it's different, but that was before I knew I had a problem with trying to buy every release i could (though no where near as bad as some on here!) it seriously never occured to me NOT to buy the singles even if they were on the album.

on a slightly different subject, I can't remember how we found out about things back then, before the internet, I was never a big reader of NME, sounds melody maker etc and didn't listen to radio much but always seemed to know when a record was being released, perhaps there's other reasons I don't remember though! :beer2:

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By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: What also baffled me was why New Order - at that time - chose to release The Perfect Kiss as a single THE VERY SAME DAY THAT THE PARENT ALBUM LOW-LIFE WAS RELEASED, which I thought was kind of self-sabotage because as we all know the single failed to make the top 40 simply cos it was already on the album (albeit in badly edited form).

In fact, the surprise for many fans then was that the album contained a single at all, cos of course we never expected New Order to include singles on albums up to that point. As it happened, they lifted a second later on - Sub-Culture - and again its chart position was truly dire (but then that could be summat to do with how godawful the remixes were of course!!!!).

Them were great days an' all weren't they though ? Mid 80s - vintage 'awkward' New Order....sigh.....

Yeah always thought that was a right fuck up releasing them on the same day

I went to Discovery Records in town on my lunch hour on day of release and picked up Perfect Kiss 12" and Low Life.It was a long, long afternoon til finish time and getting home to stick em on.Perfect Kiss reached No 43 on the UK top 100 if i recall .About 5 minutes of the video was shown on bbc2 Whistle Test around the time.

Well, they made a thing of never publicising anything much before Low-Life and even as far as True Faith really. A great example of this non-publicity was that they played their infamous Tolworth Recreation Centre gig in 1983 and I never knew about it! TRC is about three miles from my home. Ironically it's not far from the site of the Toby Jug pub which is where Bowie played a warm-up gig for the Ziggy Stardust tour.