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http://www.spincds.com/blog/2011/11/13/plus-minus-singles-1978-1980remastered-10cd-single-by-joy-division/

http://www.amazon.com/Singles-1978-80-Box-Set-Division/dp/B00652G10A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321276047&sr=1-1

Released December 19th. for £24.99 'Plus Minus' is a Joy Division box-set, which includes ten CD singles. The tracks have been recently remastered and this release marks the 30th anniversary of frontman Ian Curtis' death. The remastering was done digitally, and the recordings have been taken directly from their original master tapes. The singles include two versions of 'Love Will Tear Us Apart'.

TRACK LISTING Disc 1

  1. Warsaw
  2. Leaders of Men Disc 2
  3. No Love Lost
  4. Failures Disc 3
  5. Digital
  6. Glass Disc 4
  7. Autosuggestion
  8. From Safety to Where Disc 5
  9. Transmission
  10. Novelty Disc 6
  11. Atmosphere
  12. Dead Souls Disc 7
  13. Komakino
  14. Incubation
  15. As You Said Disc 8
  16. Love Will Tear Us Apart
  17. These Days Disc 9
  18. She's Lost Control 12" Version
  19. Love Will Tear Us Apart 2 Pennine Version Disc 10
  20. Isolation
  21. Heart and Soul
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So the question begs - if they can do this with JD, then why the fuck could they not have done this with New Order???

:shrug: :nonono:

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By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: So the question begs - if they can do this with JD, then why the fuck could they not have done this with New Order???

:shrug: :nonono:

Patience

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Andy wrote:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: So the question begs - if they can do this with JD, then why the fuck could they not have done this with New Order???

:shrug: :nonono:

Patience

BOLLOCKS

:nonono: :thumbdown: :angry:

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Really don't know why they didn't just reissue these songs as Substance 1977-1980 which features 90% of the tracks on one CD only. Two tracks per CD is such a waste of capacity.

I'm losing track of what the definitive Joy Division "remaster" is these days as well. We had Heart & Soul in 1997, the album reissues in 2007 and now this box set. So this is a re-re-remaster?

I'll (probably) buy it but won't be rushing down the shops for it. Most of the tracks are already sitting on my iPod across several compilations and sound just fine as they are.

Or I'll wait until the price drops considerably.

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Reportage 23-In Search of Ian Curtis (Hardback Book - Katja Ruge) Review Ian Is a busy ghost. --Johnny Marr CD Description A Photograpic Mapping of 23 places in the story of Joy Division and their singer Ian Curtis and the space he left behind. With contributions from people who knew him, worked with him, or were just inspiredby him and the music the band created. Pictures by Katja Ruge and words from, amongst others, Terry Mason, Peter Saville, Mark E. Smith (The Fall), Jarvis Cocker (Pulp), Annik Honore, Bloc Party, The Rapture, Karl Bartos, Genesis, P.Orridge, Mogwai, Johnny Marr (Modest Mouse, The Smiths), Maximo Park, Lindsay Reade, Mark Reeder, Jaz Coleman (Killing Joke), Anja Huwe (Xmal Deutschland), Nouvelle Vaque, She Wants Revenge and the late Tony Wilson. 177 pages, 76 photos, texts.

Closer (Metal Box) [Box Set]

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I have the digital version of this from iTunes. While it sounds good, the Ideal for Living tracks are out of order. "Leaders of Men" is supposed to crossfade into "Failures"

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so one year on they release the cd version of the plus minus record box set or in other words they put out the bonus cd that came with it split from 2 cds to 5?

weird.

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This must be the most stupid release they ever put out. To begin with, Joy Division only released 4 singles, and the various sampler tracks and give aways were NOT singles, more like other tracks. To split a 4-Track-EP on 2 CD-singles and invent one new single with album tracks, is also weird at least. The 10 singles box was an OK item for vinyl collectors who can't/won't afford the original singles, but on CD it's bascially "Substance" with "As You Said" and the 2nd LWTUA for completeness sake.

They just should have released this as a single CD in chronological order (tracks 11-17 from Substance put into the correct order) and maybe a luxury edition with a 12" booklet containing all the original sleeves, like Kraftwerk did with "Catalogue".

Will pass this one.

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The only thing that tempts me into buying this is that the original CD promos included with the vinyl boxset were faulty. Although the mastering was OK when the tracks were copied onto CD there were audible faults.

However, just remembering the hellish ordeal of the problems with the original vinyl boxset has made up my mind to give this a wide one.

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Adam Tate wrote: The only thing that tempts me into buying this is that the original CD promos included with the vinyl boxset were faulty. Although the mastering was OK when the tracks were copied onto CD there were audible faults.

That's probably because they were CD-Rs and not properly pressed silver discs. The + and - sleeves were nice but I could never figure out why they went to the trouble of making those sleeves only to stick faulty CD-Rs in them. I've seen them going on eBay for exorbitant prices and I'm never ever tempted because you're basically paying for something a Rhino employee probably burned off on his PC... and burned off badly.

Adam Tate wrote: However, just remembering the hellish ordeal of the problems with the original vinyl boxset has made up my mind to give this a wide one.

I don't blame you. Fan confidence at Rhino delivering a quality JDNO product with no audio or shipping errors is at an all time low really. It's just been mistake after mistake after mistake for well over five years now. Total was just about the only product they managed to get out with minimal problems but even then it was just a simple compilation.

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Waste of resources really.

I just don't see much point in this except to fleece the gullible JD fans - and of course there are many of them - by making them part with their money for such a staggeringly contrived exercise in vanity repackaging.

Pointless, especially when you consider what I said earlier about them never being able to put out Recycle which would have been a far more valued project.

Then again, what else did you expect????

:shrug: :nonono: :shades:

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By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Waste of resources really.

I just don't see much point in this except to fleece the gullible JD fans - and of course there are many of them - by making them part with their money for such a staggeringly contrived exercise in vanity repackaging.

Pointless, especially when you consider what I said earlier about them never being able to put out Recycle which would have been a far more valued project.

Then again, what else did you expect????

Agreed totally sold out eh!

:shrug: :nonono: :shades:

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Sometimes you have to wonder which band has had more pointless repackaging and reissuing projects over the last 20 years ....... is it New Order, The Smiths, Joy Division or The Stone Roses??

And it's now getting increasingly hard to see which one of these is the worst.

Noticed how they're all Manchester bands too......hardly surprising eh?

:nonono: :thumbdown:

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kerrrr - chingggggggg

30th anniversary????? november 2011??

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shazzer wrote: kerrrr - chingggggggg

30th anniversary????? november 2011??

No, LAST YEAR was the 30th anniversary (of Curtis' death).

This year is the 30th anniversary of Movement, but they didn't give a stuff about that epochal event did they??

It was also the tenth anniversary of Get Ready - but yet again, who gave a monkeys?

If you're The Stone Roses, or more specifically Silvertone Records, then every year is a fucking anniversary, probably.

:shrug: :shades:

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This is a pointless waste of money. Just when you thought the cssh cow had run dry! If you think this will become a collectors item one day then probably best think again.

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isaac wrote: This is a pointless waste of money. Just when you thought the cssh cow had run dry! If you think this will become a collectors item one day then probably best think again.

It might be in the long run due to lack of sales...! :p

:smoking:

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I have the impression that some JD fanatics are obsessive about anniversaries ; 'It's been this many years since Ian died'

And then there's the people and record companies that do these things for those sort of fans.

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:banghead: :banghead:

yes it probably is the anniversary of something........

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shazzer wrote: :banghead: :banghead:

yes it probably is the anniversary of something........

Indeed - it's the anniversary of the last anniversary of course!!

:baby: :banghead: :banghead: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :nonono: :nonono:

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CD singles? Booorrring

Now if they re-issue the 7" +- boxset, I will be first in line.

:nod:

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I think as a CD, it's totally pointless breaking up 'An ideal for living' as 2 CD singles???

Could have made one cd, and finally released the 'Ceremony/In a lonely place' as a cd single, seeing as the RSD 12" is long sold out.

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I shall definitely be buying its the first JD/NO reissue of recent times that hasn't been a blatant rip off. For a 10 CD singles box set this is the right price. The vinyl issue was in my opinion a rip off at £55 many people here seemed to disagree but I don't think its really become that collectable. Of course the box set is contrived simply because there were only really 2 7" JD singles issued at the time. I have all the other similar box sets by Blur,Clash,Smiths etc and put them in my Sony Jukebox. I can see why people think these are a waste of money but for singles fans who bought the originals these are nice digital replacements. Of course the Holy Grail would be a New Order Set and would trump all my other CD singles box sets hands down.

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Philip Nash wrote: I shall definitely be buying its the first JD/NO reissue of recent times that hasn't been a blatant rip off. For a 10 CD singles box set this is the right price. The vinyl issue was in my opinion a rip off at £55 many people here seemed to disagree but I don't think its really become that collectable. Of course the box set is contrived simply because there were only really 2 7" JD singles issued at the time. I have all the other similar box sets by Blur,Clash,Smiths etc and put them in my Sony Jukebox. I can see why people think these are a waste of money but for singles fans who bought the originals these are nice digital replacements. Of course the Holy Grail would be a New Order Set and would trump all my other CD singles box sets hands down.

sucker!

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Cramping my style!:laugh:

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Philip Nash wrote: I shall definitely be buying its the first JD/NO reissue of recent times that hasn't been a blatant rip off. For a 10 CD singles box set this is the right price. The vinyl issue was in my opinion a rip off at £55 many people here seemed to disagree but I don't think its really become that collectable. Of course the box set is contrived simply because there were only really 2 7" JD singles issued at the time. I have all the other similar box sets by Blur,Clash,Smiths etc and put them in my Sony Jukebox. I can see why people think these are a waste of money but for singles fans who bought the originals these are nice digital replacements. Of course the Holy Grail would be a New Order Set and would trump all my other CD singles box sets hands down.

This.

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Tokoloshe Man wrote: http://www.spincds.com/blog/2011/11/13/plus-minus-singles-1978-1980remastered-10cd-single-by-joy-division/

http://www.amazon.com/Singles-1978-80-Box-Set-Division/dp/B00652G10A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321276047&sr=1-1

Released December 19th. for £24.99 'Plus Minus' is a Joy Division box-set, which includes ten CD singles. The tracks have been recently remastered and this release marks the 30th anniversary of frontman Ian Curtis' death. The remastering was done digitally, and the recordings have been taken directly from their original master tapes. The singles include two versions of 'Love Will Tear Us Apart'.

TRACK LISTING Disc 1

  1. Warsaw
  2. Leaders of Men Disc 2
  3. No Love Lost
  4. Failures Disc 3
  5. Digital
  6. Glass Disc 4
  7. Autosuggestion
  8. From Safety to Where Disc 5
  9. Transmission
  10. Novelty Disc 6
  11. Atmosphere
  12. Dead Souls Disc 7
  13. Komakino
  14. Incubation
  15. As You Said Disc 8
  16. Love Will Tear Us Apart
  17. These Days Disc 9
  18. She's Lost Control 12" Version
  19. Love Will Tear Us Apart 2 Pennine Version Disc 10
  20. Isolation
  21. Heart and Soul

omg! how many times and how many more releases!? good lord.

i guess to infinity and beyond :\ohwell:

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I'm just surprised that it wasn't released on TWENTY CDs with one track per disc.

:rolleyes:

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