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1963: good tune, but strange perspective for lyrics...

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Why did the band decide to write the lyrics in the first-person perspective? It would have been ok if, say, Gillian sang the song. But why have Barney sing: :uhoh:

When Johnny came home with a gift for meHe said I bought it for you because I love you

I mean, I understand the meaning of the song. But people nearby who don't will probably have a funny expression on their face.

Just my thoughts. :smoker:

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personally, I had never considered this...

does that make me odd, or just plain weird? I don't have enough money to be considered eccentric!

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You must of read my "best/worst lyrics" post:)

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you are right...lyrically very obscure...but apart from lonesome tonight new orders greatest b-side..

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... the band must also think this, to the extent the product was upgraded to A-side status.

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yeah, i personally dont like this track.

one of there weak songs for me. it does sound a bit gay to me actually and i'd never play it in front of my old man cos he'd beat me with a stick probably and call me puffta!

y'know taking lots speed maybe made them temporily gay for the moment, look what it did to barrymore! :)

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What's wrong with being gay?

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He's singing about Johnny Marr, and his (as then) unrequieted crush on the former Smiths "axe hero".

At least that's what I reckon.......

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He is talking from a feminine point-of-view. In some circles, this is called "artistic freedom". You know, like if you write a book about a serial killer, that doesn't mean you're a serial killer yerself...

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Are you sure?

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The song is being sung by the ghost of Marilyn Monroe on what would have been her first birthday after the CIA/FBI/whoever had her taken out. Get yer gnashers round that one !!

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Originally posted by Huntsman Are you sure?:hat:

Yes I am. A few years ago I wrote a little essay called "American Psycho" about a yuppie on a killing spree... and I never killed anyone bar a few flies, spiders and other assorted small insects. So there you have it (the sex on the story is based on actual events, though...)!

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Real psychos never realise they're pyschos.

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Originally posted by Huntsman What's wrong with being gay?:hat:

Nothing! I draw the line on two-headed transexuals from outer-space, though...

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Originally posted by Huntsman Real psychos never realise they're pyschos.:hat:

One can think of examples from real life; and of course I don't mean you, H.

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A comma before the end? - intriguing. Examples to follow? (and of course, I mean serious psychos).

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Originally posted by Huntsman Real psychos never realise they're pyschos.:hat:

Maybe those insects weren't insects after all...

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Son of SAM was as predictable as he was stupid.

I can't recollect a genuine freak declaring, 'hey, I'm mad me'.

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Originally posted by Huntsman A comma before the end? - intriguing.Examples to follow?(and of course, I mean serious psychos).:hat:

So should we explore the proper use of commas?

Or dashes?

Or mid-sentence question marks?

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Wrong gig.

I was searching for examples of genuine self-proclaimed psychotic individuals. My poor written English was to blame.

You could combine this declaration with examples of proper and interesting comma/colon and semi-colon use.

I realise that is quite a demanding request - combining exemplary grammar with openly psychotic mad people is surely nothing to be sniffed at. You might like to obtain a suitable beverage prior to embarking on this quest. You could surreptitiously decline the challenge but people might notice.

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Originally posted by JORGE TEIXEIRA > Originally posted by Huntsman> Real psychos never realise they're pyschos.> > :hat:

Maybe those insects weren't insects after all...

Kafka?

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Originally posted by Huntsman Wrong gig.I was searching for examples of genuine self-proclaimed psychotic individuals. My poor written English was to blame.You could combine this declaration with examples of proper and intrersting comma/colon and semi-colon use.I realise that is quite a demanding request - combining exemplary grammar with openly psychotic mad people is surely nothing to be sniffed at. You might like to obtain a suitable beverage prior to embarking on this quest. You could surreptitiously decline the challenge but people might notice.:hat:

What I meant was examples of unaware psychos, not the opposite; examples of self-aware psychos would be much harder to come by - don't you think?

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Originally posted by Huntsman > Originally posted by JORGE TEIXEIRA> > > > Originally posted by Huntsman> > Real psychos never realise they're pyschos.> > > > :hat:>

Maybe those insects weren't insects after all...

Kafka?

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No, Joseph K.

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RE: P

Yes, is there such an individual? - maybe the official psychos are only official if they are unaware of how mad they really are. I'm guessing a maths equation resides somewhere to neatly explain this.

As you suggest, examples of unaware psychos can be found in real life. Dangerous people lurk in the most unpredictable of places. The world is a dangerous place.

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George ... Joseph K?

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Originally posted by Huntsman RE: PYes, is there such an individual? - maybe the official psychos are only official if they are unaware of how mad they really are. I'm guessing a maths equation resides somewhere to neatly explain this.As you suggest, examples of unaware psychos can be found in real life. Dangerous people lurk in the most unpredictable of places. The world is a dangerous place.:hat:

Exactly what I meant.

But don't look to me for the equation!

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Originally posted by Huntsman George ... Joseph K?:hat:

Yes, the guy who convinced himself he was a chzeck-jewish insurance employee moonlighting as a writer of surrealistic novels in the first half of the 20th century...

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... aaahh ... that Joseph K.

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Originally posted by Huntsman ... aaahh ... that Joseph K.:hat:

Why, you thought I meant the guy who convinced himself he was a scottish band from the latter half of the 20th century?

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Originally posted by Dan Fenton It would have been ok if, say, Gillian sang the song.

Regardless of Barny's intentions, I agree with Dan. Gilligan should of sang it. Can she even sing?

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Only when she's on her island !

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