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Slough, UK & Orleans, France '85 shows released last night and today via the The Power Of Independent Trucking blog.

The Slough one sounds absolutely superb next to the older boot and is easily on par with an official live album.

Hopefully there's a few more mastered goodies in the series to come [:)]

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Superb quality

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Nice link! Thank you!

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How does one open/unzip a FLAC file.

What 'player' to use --- iTunes?

Thanks!

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LETS_PLAY_HOOKY wrote: How does one open/unzip a FLAC file.

What 'player' to use --- iTunes?

Thanks!

FLAC is a free lossless file format so you're basically getting full CD quality - players which offer playback include WinAmp and foobar2000.

iTunes and Windows Media Player natively do not since they are owned by big companies who would prefer people use their exclusive lossless formats.

I would recommend foobar2000 because you can convert the FLAC into any other format you want really; including to WAV or AIFF for CD-R burning purposes.

Windows Media Player will play FLACs if you install the freeware Windows 7 codec pack andWMP Tag Plus (in that order).

For Macs I'm not so sure but I'm sure there's freeware players out there that will handle FLACs.

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I also highly recommend Foobar2000. Free, simple, not a resource hog and does not require constant updating and connection with the Mothership unlike iTunes and Mediaplayer. If you feel the need to convert to mp3 so you can play it on your Apple Humancentipod I recommend dBPowerAmp. Simple and easy to use.

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Barcelona 7 July 84 now up!

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Track 13 Temptation is not included in the Studio 54 download, or am I doing something wrong?

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sonic wrote: Track 13 Temptation is not included in the Studio 54 download, or am I doing something wrong?

nope, you weren't doing anything wrong. It's now fixed; new MD5 checksum file too.

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Very good sound on all three. Yes, I've binned all the previous versions of these concerts.

Deck

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The sound is pretty good thank you [:)] State of the Nation is not complete :/

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These are all from the Sounboard box that were rescued in the early 90's and eventually sold to a well known NO site owner if memory serves.

Cannae mind how many there were, but there should be a few more soon. All those that were put onto CD were from the 84/85 period.

And no, it isnae my site.

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Thanks D! These are choice! [:)]

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The number of hits and downloads of the three gigs so far has finally compelled me to start a proper blog for these things.

Visit The New Order Archives for the good stuff. That's where these are going from here on out.

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Your efforts are very much appreciated.

They sound fantastic.

Cheers

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Simply wonderful stuff, thanks Drew!

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NotAMod wrote: Hopefully there's a few more mastered goodies in the series to come [:)]

...Studio 54 gig...: "This version here is truly spectacular, and could be released tomorrow by Warners."

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Would they, now that its been made publicly available and most of the fans will download it?

I wonder how the band feels? [blackeye]

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Dennis Remmer wrote:

NotAMod wrote: Hopefully there's a few more mastered goodies in the series to come [:)]

...Studio 54 gig...: "This version here is truly spectacular, and could be released tomorrow by Warners."

😄

Would they, now that its been made publicly available and most of the fans will download it?

I wonder how the band feels? [blackeye]

I would imagine if the band were seriously unhappy with what the Analog Loyalist was doing then they would have instructed their management and/or record label to have these (and the Recycle blog) pulled down long ago. Since that hasn't happened - Recycle's been up there for 3 years now - then I think it's safe to assume some sort of tacit approval for what's been happening. These shows would have disappeared into a rich collector's stash never to be heard again and I for one think it's wonderful all the fans get to hear them. Add to that, lower quality versions of these shows have been circulating amongst fans (for free) for decades now; bar AL's superb new mastering they're not really new content.

As for your assertion regarding Warners "Would they (release them)?" - of course they wouldn't, it just wasn't going to happen and we'd probably get another fucking "Best Of".

Plus the original band can't even agree on a release for the remaining original material (Lost Sirens) let alone come together to approve a series of obscure mid-80s gigs.

This was the only way.

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NotAMod wrote: I would imagine if the band were seriously unhappy with what the Analog Loyalist was doing then they would have instructed their management and/or record label to have these (and the Recycle blog) pulled down long ago. Since that hasn't happened - Recycle's been up there for 3 years now - then I think it's safe to assume some sort of tacit approval for what's been happening. These shows would have disappeared into a rich collector's stash never to be heard again and I for one think it's wonderful all the fans get to hear them. Add to that, lower quality versions of these shows have been circulating amongst fans (for free) for decades now; bar AL's superb new mastering they're not really new content.

As for your assertion regarding Warners "Would they (release them)?" - of course they wouldn't, it just wasn't going to happen and we'd probably get another fucking "Best Of".

Plus the original band can't even agree on a release for the remaining original material (Lost Sirens) let alone come together to approve a series of obscure mid-80s gigs.

This was the only way.

Steve loved the Recycle blog, the label thought it was terrifically executed but weren't happy the stuff was downloadable for free. Bernard - as of a month or so ago - had never even heard of the Recycle blog. So I'd say they are aware.

I've not been instructed by Andy to cease/desist the Archives project - then again, it's only been up for a few days. But unless I start posting private tapes (which I won't), I don't expect any sort of direction from the label or management at all. As stated in the blog's mission statement, all material I post will be community sourced and generally-otherwise-available live stuff, except mastered to near-perfection. They'd have a bit of a project on their hands if they wanted all these live postings here, there and everywhere, stopped and removed.

As I alluded to in the "welcome" post on TNOA, the label/band had the perfect opportunity to do this themselves, with their hundreds of soundboard tapes from Rob's and Hooky's archives, in 2008. There were semi-concrete plans in place to do a series of gigs, one for each album, and the gigs were chosen, tapes mastered by me, and ultimately delivered to the band ready to go. Then the label dropped it. None of those gigs (except maybe that chosen for Technique, which came from us anyway) will be posted on TNOA.

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Thank you so much for the hard work you are putting in. Feels like Christmas already. Im hoping BBC Basement recordings get a remaster.

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NotAMod wrote: Slough, UK & Orleans, France '85 shows released last night and today via the The Power Of Independent Trucking blog.

The Slough one sounds absolutely superb next to the older boot and is easily on par with an official live album.

Hopefully there's a few more mastered goodies in the series to come [:)]

thanks for this..

the Slough concert is now my favorite live show from them! a lot of the songs sound great with the keyboard and guitar work..

nice to hear some of the lesser played songs also.

will look into the others.

later -1

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Fantastic effort, thanks.

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Something to really annoy my neighbours with! Cheers [;)]

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lots of good concerts at the new order archives.

the latest : hollywood 1986:

The New Order Archives: 4 Nov 1986 The Palace, Hollywood

http://archive.new-order.net/2012/08/4-november-1986-palace-hollywood-ca.html

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the best thing about all these concerts is that they are SO MUCH BETTER than anything new order has done in the last decade or so..

every concert is unique, and great song choices, and fun changes..

the perfect kiss and blue monday always sound excellent..


these concerts make their current ones from this tour look very plain and simple, and the versions are much better (although the new 586 is pretty good).

go check out all these concerts and you won't be disappointed..

currently listening to the hollywood one.

later -1

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So many thanks Drew. The Hollywood gig is more than amazing. From 13 years old I used to go over Camdem Market and buy these Cassetes but over time they have been chewwed up. Thank you soo much for bringing them back at even better quality. Loving it! If ever I meet u I owe you at least 10pints!

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Cannot say thanks enough for the work that went into mastering these gigs. Absolutely stunning. The sound quality is so good that they've now found a place on my iphone in heavy rotation. I was too young for most of these shows (My first NO show was 1993) but listening to these makes me feel like I was there. I hope there are more to come!

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Thanks Drew - this is easily the most interesting news on here for ages.

Barcelona has been long time favourite of mine - looking forward to hearing the new version.

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The Saturday Live BBC session from '84 is now up.

Always a favourite of mine that one (for Bernard's stroppy behaviour) and the new mastering sounds miles better than previous bootlegs.

Once again, superb stuff [:d] Bernard persistently telling Steve to "speed up" during IALP is comical.

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Thank you soo much for the Saturday Live rock around the clock recording drew. Easy the best recording Ive had. Its amazing I tried so hard years ago to remove the hiss using cool edit but although 90per cent was removed it was replaced with a flange sound. Excellent remaster im well pleased thanks x1000

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Thank you a lot!! The quality does make a difference. I had a dozen live bootlegs and because most of them sounded so awful, I never really listened to them. What also always puzzled me is how in the world the Retro live disc had such a low quality - I mean it sounded just a little better than an average Pistols bootleg from 1985. Didn't they have any good-quality soundboard recording for such a project?? Apparently they did but God knows how it ended up so fucked up.

Bernard was in a strange mood in Hollywood: "You get so excited... I wish we could get as excited as you, Americans... You know, I always wanted to be American, like you..." - only a song later to tell the audience "Alright, motherfuckers!". I guess, first he thought how great it was to be in subtropical California, which was such a contrast to rainy, smiths-ridden Manchester in November. And a few moments later he got enraged just thinking about all the money they had been making only to support the Hacienda and see none of it.

For the first time I liked Shellshock (in its Hollywood rendition). Strangely they played the 3-minute version of Thieves Like Us. Everything's Gone Green on the Studio 54 tape is awesome. Sub-culture from Slough is great, too.

You realize how Peter Hook was essential to the whole NO live experience. He was the punk.

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Wow, excellent find.

Listening to Slough now, sounds superb [:d]

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Wait till you folks hear Rollingstone, Milan 22 June 82. Road testing now, it's almost too clean for the old dropout-infested best source. Pant shitting will be a problem…

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amazing - fantastic work!!!

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