Peter Hook "I was almost in Primal Scream before"

Interesting interview.

http://www.brightonnoise.co.uk/preview/?p=31143

When Mani left to get back with the Roses were you ever tempted to get into Primal Scream?

(Laughs) I don’t know, I was almost in Primal Scream before, when the first bass player left. Before they got Mani they actually got me in to play with them. And Throb, their guitarist, thought it sounded too much like New Order, so he voted against it, so the lads didn’t have me. I was very upset about it, cos I was single at the time, it would have been wonderful. I did know what they meant, I wasn’t Primal Screamy enough for them, and I made them sound like New Order and Bobby liked that, but Throb didn’t, so it was a shame, but I think it was the best decision for them I must admit. But maybe now they’ll take me on, now I’ve said that, now Mani’s gone.

Did you go and see New Order?

No, no, I was watching it on Youtube, it was quite funny because since the arguing and the fracas between us as people has spilled over into New Order, I’ve noticed that Bernard and Steve have started playing more and more Joy Divison songs. It’s like they’re trying to take it back, musically as well as physically, which is really weird, because why start New Order again with that huge catalogue, and not play New Order but start playing Joy Division, which I presume they must be doing just to spite me. Fucking weird.

Would you enjoy reading one that Barney or Steve wrote?

Yeah, probably, I used Barney’s book that David Nolan wrote as reference. I actually miss Steve a lot, because Steve is quite an encyclopaedia, he’s got a fantastic memory, so the fact that me and Steve are estranged at the moment is quite a bugbear because I know I would have got a lot more things in had me and Steve been talking, which is quite sad actually. But yeah, I would read them, yeah.

Are you hoping for a reconciliation with the other two?

Well it’d make life a lot easier, without a shadow of a doubt, but judging by how far it’s gone, I think unfortunately we’ll be going to the guys with wigs on. And I don’t mean trannies. It’d be a lot cheaper if they were trannies actually, but no, it’ll be the guys with the wigs on deciding who’s right and who’s wrong. It’s a great shame, because at our age you should be getting on with your life, but all around you are people who are not getting on with life. It’s stupid. It’s very destructive, you feel like you’re working just to pay your legal bills, but there’s no grownups in the playground.

Will you be doing another book after the New Order one?

Yeah, well I think I’m going to do the New Order book as two books, the rise and fall of… coming up and coming down, because it’s so long. So at the end of that, I may want to do a book, I may do 100 greatest bass players.

Linus Solanki wrote: Interesting interview.

http://www.brightonnoise.co.uk/preview/?p=31143

When Mani left to get back with the Roses were you ever tempted to get into Primal Scream?

(Laughs) I don’t know, I was almost in Primal Scream before, when the first bass player left. Before they got Mani they actually got me in to play with them. And Throb, their guitarist, thought it sounded too much like New Order, so he voted against it, so the lads didn’t have me. I was very upset about it, cos I was single at the time, it would have been wonderful. I did know what they meant, I wasn’t Primal Screamy enough for them, and I made them sound like New Order and Bobby liked that, but Throb didn’t, so it was a shame, but I think it was the best decision for them I must admit. But maybe now they’ll take me on, now I’ve said that, now Mani’s gone.

Did you go and see New Order?

No, no, I was watching it on Youtube, it was quite funny because since the arguing and the fracas between us as people has spilled over into New Order, I’ve noticed that Bernard and Steve have started playing more and more Joy Divison songs. It’s like they’re trying to take it back, musically as well as physically, which is really weird, because why start New Order again with that huge catalogue, and not play New Order but start playing Joy Division, which I presume they must be doing just to spite me. Fucking weird.

Would you enjoy reading one that Barney or Steve wrote?

Yeah, probably, I used Barney’s book that David Nolan wrote as reference. I actually miss Steve a lot, because Steve is quite an encyclopaedia, he’s got a fantastic memory, so the fact that me and Steve are estranged at the moment is quite a bugbear because I know I would have got a lot more things in had me and Steve been talking, which is quite sad actually. But yeah, I would read them, yeah.

Are you hoping for a reconciliation with the other two?

Well it’d make life a lot easier, without a shadow of a doubt, but judging by how far it’s gone, I think unfortunately we’ll be going to the guys with wigs on. And I don’t mean trannies. It’d be a lot cheaper if they were trannies actually, but no, it’ll be the guys with the wigs on deciding who’s right and who’s wrong. It’s a great shame, because at our age you should be getting on with your life, but all around you are people who are not getting on with life. It’s stupid. It’s very destructive, you feel like you’re working just to pay your legal bills, but there’s no grownups in the playground.

Will you be doing another book after the New Order one?

Yeah, well I think I’m going to do the New Order book as two books, the rise and fall of… coming up and coming down, because it’s so long. So at the end of that, I may want to do a book, I may do 100 greatest bass players.

Two more books - K-Ching

Linus Solanki wrote: Interesting interview.

http://www.brightonnoise.co.uk/preview/?p=31143

When Mani left to get back with the Roses were you ever tempted to get into Primal Scream?

He was nearly in Killing Joke as well. There's a good bit about it in the JD book.

http://thequietus.com/articles/08320-killing-joke-peter-hook

El Jarvo wrote:

Linus Solanki wrote: Interesting interview.

http://www.brightonnoise.co.uk/preview/?p=31143

When Mani left to get back with the Roses were you ever tempted to get into Primal Scream?

He was nearly in Killing Joke as well. There's a good bit about it in the JD book.

http://thequietus.com/articles/08320-killing-joke-peter-hook[/url

He'd have been in Joy Division if Freddie Mercury didn't beat him to it !

I'm amazed at Hooky's patience with/appetite for these interviews. He's repeatedly asked the same questions and gives the same answers. How many times has he said Ian would have sung Blue Monday, that he knows where his son is every minute of the day and that New Order had been ignoring Joy Division? I thought this tedium is why New Order used to be reluctant to do interviews.

It reminds me of an anecdote regarding The C*re: Once their popularity began to grow, R*bert S*ith was so bored with the same questions being asked that he began lying to the interviewers. It was amusing to him that there were three different answers to the same question in three different publications.

Andy wrote: It reminds me of an anecdote regarding The C*re: Once their popularity began to grow,R*bert S*ith was so bored with the same questions being asked that he began lying to the interviewers. It was amusing to him that there were three different answers to the same question in three different publications.

And people say he's a dismal cunt...

Coops wrote:

Andy wrote: It reminds me of an anecdote regarding The C*re: Once their popularity began to grow,R*bert S*ith was so bored with the same questions being asked that he began lying to the interviewers. It was amusing to him that there were three different answers to the same question in three different publications.

And people say he's a dismal cunt...

No they say he is a FAT PIE EATING DAFT HAIRSTYLE BASTARD

Factually he's full of shit when it comes to NO playing more JD songs than they used to.

Now they might play 2 a night, possibly 3 with Isolation.

Then 1998-2006, they averaged 5-6 dependent on when you saw them, but it was a rare night without at least 4-5 from LWTUA, Transmish, Atmosphere, She's Lost Control, Isolation, Heart And Soul, Twenty Four Hours, These Days, Warsaw, Shadowplay, Digital, et al.

One of the things I love about current N.O. sets is that they aren't relentless Joy Division nostalgia fests.

markreed wrote: Factually he's full of shit when it comes to NO playing more JD songs than they used to.

No, he's not.

He said, "I’ve noticed that Bernard and Steve have started playing more and more Joy Divison songs."

Which is true.

A year ago they were only playing LWTUA.

Then they added Tranmission during the UK dates.

Isolation first appeared in Barcelona.

Then on the US tour they've just played three additional JD songs - Atmosphere, Heart & Soul and Shadowplay.

So, which bit of that is 'factually full of shit'? Bernard and Stephen have started playing more and more Joy Division songs.

Still gonna get his learned friends and SUE THEIR ASSES

Come on Hooky, don't be a cunt.

El Jarvo wrote:

markreed wrote: Factually he's full of shit when it comes to NO playing more JD songs than they used to.

No, he's not.

He said, "I’ve noticed that Bernard and Steve have started playing more and more Joy Divison songs."

Which is true.

A year ago they were only playing LWTUA.

Then they added Tranmission during the UK dates.

Isolation first appeared in Barcelona.

Then on the US tour they've just played three additional JD songs - Atmosphere, Heart & Soul and Shadowplay.

So, which bit of that is 'factually full of shit'? Bernard and Stephen have started playing more and more Joy Division songs.

See when it comes to what theyve played and setlists as such...

Dont fuck with Jarvo! 😄

El Jarvo wrote:

He was nearly in Killing Joke as well. There's a good bit about it in the JD book.

Check out... http://youtu.be/ZWL3JGYkUQs

El Jarvo wrote:

markreed wrote: Factually he's full of shit when it comes to NO playing more JD songs than they used to.

No, he's not.

He said, "I’ve noticed that Bernard and Steve have started playing more and more Joy Divison songs."

Which is true.

A year ago they were only playing LWTUA.

Then they added Tranmission during the UK dates.

Isolation first appeared in Barcelona.

Then on the US tour they've just played three additional JD songs - Atmosphere, Heart & Soul and Shadowplay.

So, which bit of that is 'factually full of shit'? Bernard and Stephen have started playing more and more Joy Division songs.

Don't know why these guys insist on blaming Hooky for everything

I stand mildly corrected on that : though since it was Hooky who started the lets-play-half-our-set-as-JD-songs, he is on shaky ground. After all, they started play mroe JD songs in 1998.

I was almost in Primal Scream before

I was Mollie Sudgens bridesmaid...

Funny how there is an inverse relationship between their interviews and selling records. The interviews for both have gone way up after WFTSC.