New Order creating new sounds

Meanwhile, Hooky's ex-bandmates in New Order are back in the studio working on new material. Last year Bernard Sumner revealed he'd like to return to a more electronic/synthy sound on the album. If Gillian Gilbert's tweet is any indication, it appears things are going swimmingly in the studio!

Writing bits and bobs this week !! Going really well no hangovers tooo whoop whoop !!

http://www.cristinarocks.com/2013/01/peter-hook-playing-new-order-lps-in.html

also so many nice pictures on New Order while they were touring on her twitter account.

https://twitter.com/gillian\_gilbert?tw\_i=291526099568062465&tw\_e=screenname&tw\_p=tweetembed

Electronic, yes, but it's very tricky. Purely electronic albums tend to date as no other type of music. I think of Very as the brightest example of electronic dance music. Or Moby's Everything is Wrong... they sounded very dated 2 years after they were released.

New Order are out of touch with current electronic/dance trends, and they need a good producer but the best NO albums were made without producers (1983-1989). Though I liked the approach in Lost Sirens: no pretentiousness, basic rhythms and synth layers and it worked much better than polished tracks of Republic or WFTSC. In the end of the day the greatest asset is melody and ahem... lyrics. I first felt very enthusiastic of Guilt as a Useless Emotion, but as time went, I heard more and more flaws with its dancey sound. Idk why it is so. I liked what Trevor Horn did on Pet Shop Boys' Fundamental: a kinda dark, smart electronic record.

Agreed with no bar code. I would love new order to self produce to give it some rawness. If purely electronic it could end up being totally over produced by the wrong too poppy producers. I would like them to be more influenced by rawer electro Detroit sound or kraftwerk rather than a polished house sound, but all the same I am looking forward to it

As for how electronic it should be, I'd prefer if guitars were only small accents to the tracks. I don't really agree with electronic tracks dating quickly. Aslong as they don't resort to an overflow of current trends, as those seem to go fast. (Anyone remember electro-house? or chiptunes?) I think it'd be cool if the "time era" of the songs was a bit mixed. Have antique synths, industrial beats, modern club sounds, maybe a slow dubstep-esque beat on one track? Either way I look forward to what they come up with and I hope they're a bit experimental and the tracks don't all sound the same.

Edit: I'll make a new thread further explaining into my views of what the new sound should sound like. (More like old sound.)

I think New Order have often had trouble working with outside producers. I read Hooky in particular wasn't happy with Arthur Baker and John Robie's 'Get in the studio and lay a golden egg' approach (though he tends to have a lot of disagreements!). Another example is Movement which is always written off as (a) poor bloke's JD and (b) inappropriately produced, but the actual songs are better when knocked out more rawly (think live versions and the Peel Sessions). And the Republic bashers tend to lay most of the blame at the feet of Stephen Hague. It's interesting but I first got into NO via the Pet Shop Boys and I preferred the dancey singles with Steve on synth instead of drums. Now I prefer the acoustic stuff, so the move from the pop of Republic, Rest Of and Raise The Pressure to the more guitar-led Get Ready, Bad Lieutenant and Freebass is fine by me. I'm not saying one's better than the other, I'm just sharing my tastes!

No Barcode wrote: Electronic, yes, but it's very tricky. Purely electronic albums tend to date as no other type of music. I think of Very as the brightest example of electronic dance music. Or Moby's Everything is Wrong... they sounded very dated 2 years after they were released.

New Order are out of touch with current electronic/dance trends, and they need a good producer but the best NO albums were made without producers (1983-1989). Though I liked the approach in Lost Sirens: no pretentiousness, basic rhythms and synth layers and it worked much better than polished tracks of Republic or WFTSC. In the end of the day the greatest asset is melody and ahem... lyrics. I first felt very enthusiastic of Guilt as a Useless Emotion, but as time went, I heard more and more flaws with its dancey sound. Idk why it is so. I liked what Trevor Horn did on Pet Shop Boys' Fundamental: a kinda dark, smart electronic record.

Disagree about "Very"- listened to it a few times recently - stands up very well IMO