Unsolicited Setlist Recommendations for NO

Andy wrote: CTB slightly edging ahead in the debate.

Unfortunately, can't seem to back down from his claim that a definitive tribute band contains a member of the original act. Afraid he's on his own with that one.

I might've chosen my words prematurely earlier, admittedly the Light is not strictly speaking a 'textbook definition' (if such a thing exists?) of a tribute act.....but IMO is much closer to a tribute act or cover band than the current line up of New Order.

Perhaps I'll acknowledge that the two bands are similar when NO becomes Steve singing all the songs with a prop snare drum in front of him while one of his kids plays drums and some session musos from The Other Two album do a tour playing Substance from start to finish...?

Brazilian Order get ready for World in Motion tomorrow!!! Yeah!!!

Sometimes I think Hooky should actually answer every question in a bearpit : certainly, being questioned about his position by people that are knowledgable about the band and able to counter his position - not people that are either OHMYGODIM'MTALKINGTOSOMEONEFROMTHEBAND Hipsters or know-nothing journos - that would be interesting. To an extent, I'd rather he just say "I need the money to pay the lawyers to fight the band". There's a reason John Cleese called his live show "The Alimony Tour."

On the other hand? Setlist time. Here we go.

1. Ceremony* (It's a JD song)
2. Regret
3. Crystal (drum intro)
4. Here To Stay OR I'll Stay With You
5. Round & Round OR World OR Chemical
6. Vanishing Point OR Mr. Disco
7. Krafty OR Sirens Call
8. Thieves Like Us OR Confusion OR Run
9. Bizarre Love Triangle
10. True Faith
11. 586 - medley into >
12. Everything's Gone Green - medley into >
13. Temptation
14. Fine Time --
15. The Perfect Kiss
16. Blue Monday

LWTUA (optional)

CTB wrote: I'm surprised that there's so much defensiveness around Hooky still, in the light (sorry) of what he's doing with The Light, as the idea of quitting New Order in order to do New Order album tours is pretty indefensible IMO, but each to their own.

And I'm surprised there's so much animosity surrounding a bloke who has helped soundtrack the majority of our lives.

Still, as you say, each to their own.

El Jarvo wrote:

CTB wrote: I'm surprised that there's so much defensiveness around Hooky still, in the light (sorry) of what he's doing with The Light, as the idea of quitting New Order in order to do New Order album tours is pretty indefensible IMO, but each to their own.

And I'm surprised there's so much animosity surrounding a bloke who has helped soundtrack the majority of our lives.

Still, as you say, each to their own.

I should just let this go, but if you are interested to know the possible source of the Hooky animosity, consider the incessant name calling and disrespect to his former bandmates such as the classy putdowns of Gillian he has done in the press while simultaneously forging ahead with the law of diminishing returns of dignity that is The Light.

CTB wrote: I should just let this go, but if you are interested to know the possible source of the Hooky animosity, consider the incessant name calling and disrespect to his former bandmates such as the classy putdowns of Gillian he has done in the press while simultaneously forging ahead with the law of diminishing returns of dignity that is The Light.

You better brace yourself then. I'm sure any war of words will ramp up astronomically in the near future as there'll be New Order books coming from both camps, presumably by the end of this year.

Let's face it, the bickering will help sell any future product and keep them firmly in the spotlight in the press.

makes you wonder how many of barneys lyrics aren't about former conquests but are in fact a thinly veiled attack on the Hookstar.

way of life face up hey now, what you doing etc, etc

markreed wrote: Sometimes I think Hooky should actually answer every question in a bearpit : certainly, being questioned about his position by people that are knowledgable about the band and able to counter his position - not people that are either OHMYGODIM'MTALKINGTOSOMEONEFROMTHEBAND Hipsters or know-nothing journos - that would be interesting. To an extent, I'd rather he just say "I need the money to pay the lawyers to fight the band". There's a reason John Cleese called his live show "The Alimony Tour."

On the other hand? Setlist time. Here we go.

1. Ceremony* (It's a JD song)
2. Regret
3. Crystal (drum intro)
4. Here To Stay OR I'll Stay With You
5. Round & Round OR World OR Chemical
6. Vanishing Point OR Mr. Disco
7. Krafty OR Sirens Call
8. Thieves Like Us OR Confusion OR Run
9. Bizarre Love Triangle
10. True Faith
11. 586 - medley into >
12. Everything's Gone Green - medley into >
13. Temptation
14. Fine Time --
15. The Perfect Kiss
16. Blue Monday

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LWTUA (optional)

I agree about Ceremony but it suited me to list as N.O. for my post.

I usually describe Ceremony as a Joy Division song but a New Order track.

"this is how it must be on a payroll company".

Actually, that would be a stormer live.

El Jarvo wrote:

CTB wrote: I should just let this go, but if you are interested to know the possible source of the Hooky animosity, consider the incessant name calling and disrespect to his former bandmates such as the classy putdowns of Gillian he has done in the press while simultaneously forging ahead with the law of diminishing returns of dignity that is The Light.

You better brace yourself then. I'm sure any war of words will ramp up astronomically in the near future as there'll be New Order books coming from both camps, presumably by the end of this year.

Let's face it, the bickering will help sell any future product and keep them firmly in the spotlight in the press.

I'd be more surprised if it didn't ramp up, but I predict the mudslinging will be coming more from one side, the side less likely to selling future 'product' in the form of new material...

Bringing this back on topic, I really like Face up, The Village, Leave me alone and Procession, would be very pleasantly surprised if any of these returned. Or Lonesome tonight.

Bringing this back on topic, I really like Face up, The Village, Leave me alone and Procession, would be very pleasantly surprised if any of these returned. Or Lonesome tonight

Great choices CTB

My dream setlist would be 1.Ceremony 2.Blue Monday 3.Mr. Disco 4.Sub-Culture 5.Paradise 6.Age of Consent 7.Dreams Never End 8.Denial 9.Leave Me Alone 10.Your Silent Face 11.Temptation 12.Everything's Gone Green 13.Lonesome Tonight 14.Turn 15.This Time of Night 16.The Perfect Kiss

Encore 17.Vanishing Point 18.Wilderness 19.Shadowplay 20.Love Will Tear us Apart

My dreams normally involve the use of Melanie C and a shower attachment. Dreams Never End with Steve on vocals. Liar, Procession and World with Melanie C on backing vocals. Pineapple Face. Wannabe (cover). Another newbie. Perfect Kiss. Love Reaction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFp15Wc4TzE I'll Stay With You. Pictures in my Mind. (PS Remember this thread? http://www.neworderonline.com/forums/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=33184)