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☝️Yeah, I think it's when I post on my phone.

Now here's a good name for a film. Liking the logo/font too.

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Got this sent by a friend, it's from late 2018 but I wasn't aware of it before

BLT by Sandy Lam

Have to say Sandy's done a good job

(unlike me who's horrible at this, what on earth am I doing wrong? Cant post a video properly nth time in a row)

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Jul wrote: Got this sent by a friend, it's from late 2018 but I wasn't aware of it before

BLT by Sandy Lam

Have to say Sandy's done a good job

(unlike me who's horrible at this, what on earth am I doing wrong? Cant post a video properly nth time in a row)

I think you're doing two things wrong:

a) I think it's because you're posting a 'shortened' version of the link, possibly from a mobile device. You need the link to look like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_8s9Vji72Z0

rather than this:

https://youtu.be/\_8s9Vji72Z0

b) you also need to get rid of the 's' from 'https'

So, between the

bookends, you need to post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_8s9Vji72Z0

Here you go:

Oh, and as regards the song, that's pretty nice pop. Bright and cheerful. I liked it. Interesting to hear it in a different language.

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Plenty of thanks hopefully there'll be another nice link to finally post properly in the future [:)]

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From the 6th of November.

[TWITTER]1324648029647982593[/TWITTER]

A rock/music photography docco apparently. Click.

Sky Arts is free to air in the UK these days. Will probably get repeated.

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Debaser wrote: From the 6th of November.

[TWITTER]1324648029647982593[/TWITTER]

A rock/music photography docco apparently. Click.

Sky Arts is free to air in the UK these days. Will probably get repeated.

Anybody got a copy of this that they could help me out with?

Also, S&G make an appearance on this, at around 2:15:

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perspexorange wrote:

Debaser wrote: From the 6th of November.

[TWITTER]1324648029647982593[/TWITTER]

A rock/music photography docco apparently. Click.

Sky Arts is free to air in the UK these days. Will probably get repeated.

Anybody got a copy of this that they could help me out with?

Missed that episode , well I wasn’t aware of it til Debaser’s post. Set the tv box to record any new or repeated episodes . Have watched the last couple . No Steve & Gillian on those ( episode 5 and 6 I think) but maybe sometime in the future the series will be repeated and my tv box should automatically record . So eventually I’ll get the episode with S & G , all being well. Quite a good series from what I’ve watched. Covers all aspects of music photography, music mag photos, music photography in the digital age and so on.

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Thanks Fotz.

Actually, I've just been able to watch the episode in question (episode 1) via Now TV.

The S & G bit is only about 2 minutes long and focuses (pardon the pun) on Cummins' iconic 'bridge' shot. Most of that is taken up with an interview with Kevin, with Steve hardly saying anything and Gillian not speaking. Unless they were interviewed later in the episode (haven't watched it all yet) or later in the series, it hardly seemed worth their appearance fee.

I was only able to record the footage using my iPhone pointed at my MacBook screen. Less than satisfactory quality-wise, but it'll do for now.

If you do happen to get a better quality recording or notice them appear later in the series, please let me know.

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Fotz wrote: Yet another top 30 ranked New Order songs thing in the Guardian today. I’m sure they’ve done this at least twice in recent years.

I thought the same. In fact, I noticed the article a few hours ago and didn’t bother reading it, as I just assumed it was an old article.

Although I always quite like to read stuff like that, it all seems fairly pointless. It’s just one person’s view.

I prefer the thing that ‘Slicing Up Eyeballs’ did a couple of years back where they got fans to vote. That was far more interesting, IMO.

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Thieves Like Us full length version on Lauren Laverne’s breakfast show on 6Music this morning. Quite startling to hear it on the radio for the first time since...ooooh..1984?

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Fotz wrote: Thieves Like Us full length version on Lauren Laverne’s breakfast show on 6Music this morning. Quite startling to hear it on the radio for the first time since...ooooh..1984?

It's a bloody beautiful song. Easily one of their greatest ever, IMO.

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I first heard it in 89 but it was a radio edit that lost the lush intro. I always assumed the 12" was an exended rather than 'proper' version. How the fuck could Retro drop TLU but include the Alan Wise Intro? Oh, yeah! Cos they're total and utter fucking shit. Sorry, I forgot.

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I saw a big sign, 'New Order - Sold Out!' I thought, Yes, in 1993.

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[TWITTER]1352679106178113537[/TWITTER]

Sometimes I forget that the keyboard player from the Communards and the Rev Richard Coles are the same person. I wonder if Steve got as sick of Don't Leave Me This Way as I did. He might be too polite to say...

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Cheers for the heads-up. I'd have missed this.

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^ Yes I caught that Radio 4 thing with Stephen on Saturday morning. He said he liked the version of BM done for the Wonder Woman 84 trailer.

On BBC News the other night, being interviewed about the sacking of Frank Lampard at Chelsea, in his room at home Pat Nevin had a selection of framed record sleeves and a frame with the image from the cover of Procession.

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An interesting and in-depth article especially if you are of Asian-American background

How Can I Explain: An Incomplete Oral History of Asian Americans and Our Ineffable Love of New Wave

https://themuse.jezebel.com/how-can-i-explain-an-incomplete-oral-history-of-asian-1845911631

Jim Lee: When I was in college, we used to call “Bizarre Love Triangle” the Korean American national anthem, because like there was no other song that got Koreans on the dance floor like New Order’s “Bizarre Love Triangle.”

Oliver Wang: I don’t actually know why we gravitated toward “Bizarre Love Triangle” as opposed to any other New Order song as opposed to any other big New Wave hit from the same era. That’s just where we landed. And it’s an inside joke. It’s a generational inside joke. In the ’90s when I was in college, like anyone I talked to who was Asian American, we were all in on it. We all understood it.

Hua Hsu: Everyone knew it, everyone loved it. And we didn’t really think about why that was, nor do we know now. It was just cool to have this little shared secret. That was the song everyone would wait for at a school dance.

Cynthia Leung: I always think of the dance floor as a metaphor because that’s when you see when people go deep into whatever song is playing. You don’t need to know the title, but they all have this collective reaction where you’re like, everyone knows this song. I think even to this day when people hear, especially New Order, they all bond.

At our senior prom, “Bizarre Love Triangle” came on randomly and the entire dance floor cleared. And then it was Ben Cho, Eileen Tsai, and me and my prom date, and we’re just going all out.

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Short interview with Steve here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000s2g7

Around the 1 hour 05 minute mark. Thanks to Digital Mike for the 'heads up' on this.

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posting some images from the Duran Duran - Deluxe Rio boxset, and read this:

sorry, actual page:

"they will never be New Order in the critics eye, but they say just as much about the era". good read.

later -1

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perspexorange wrote: Hooky appeared on Liz Kershaw's show yesterday (his 65th birthday):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000s8mt

I gave this a mention in Music For Pleasure because it features a Killing Division track. Exclusive! But does anyone look at Music For Pleasure?

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Ah. I missed that.

I find myself forgetting to check there.

I haven't had chance to listen to this yet. Was there any mention that these Killing Division tracks will be released on CD? I haven't ordered the vinyl, as I'm holding on for CD (much like I am with 'Be A Rebel').

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Dunno if this one got any mention here, but there's a 2018 BBC documentary on the story of dance(house?) music, featuring both Steve & Barney in a recent interview, plus what I suppose are archive interviews with Dave Haslam, Tony Wilson and Ben Kelly on episode 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YsYq3prcLo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgSyBcVuweA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTtPav\_HWmY

Lots of talents also interviewed... Moby, Frankie Knuckles, Kevorkian, Oakenfold, Steve 'Silk' Hurley, Derrick May, Carl Cox, Kevin Saunderson, Marshall Rogers, 808 State, S-Express etc. Worth it

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Mr. Disco wrote: Dunno if this one got any mention here, but there's a 2018 BBC documentary on the story of dance(house?) music, featuring both Steve & Barney in a recent interview...

Yes I rember Fotz and I discussing it here when it was first shown on BBC4. I guess people without access to BBC4/iPlayer wouldn't have been able to see it. The first 2 episodes were enjoyable. The third one, not so much. It's good that it's on YouTube, but I wonder if the BBC know?..

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Thought provoking: Tweet

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May have been posted on this thread before but True Faith in that Netflix series Don’t F***k With Cats. The Internet killer Luca Mongatta used this song as soundtrack to a video of him killing that was posted on the Internet.By far the most unsettling and depressing use of a NO song.Later speculated in the documentary that the killer was paying homage (and a clue to sleuths) to Christian Bale in American Psycho as the song is used at the start of that film.

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Congrats Fotz, 2000 posts (excluding your old login). You are now a...Dead Soul!

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^ Thanks Debaser. I couldn’t have achieved becoming a Dead Soul without the help of all on here . So thanks to everyone. I guess this post is number 2001 from me. What an odyssey it has been.

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