New Order spotting thread

Watched the 2014 film The Equalizer starring Denzel Washington after seeing The Equalizer 2 last Saturday night. At the end of the last scene a cover of New Dawn Fades plays . Didn’t catch in the credits who it’s by. Not the Moby version.

Fotz wrote: Watched the 2014 film The Equalizer starring Denzel Washington after seeing The Equalizer 2 last Saturday night. At the end of the last scene a cover of New Dawn Fades plays . Didn’t catch in the credits who it’s by. Not the Moby version.

I saw the film when it came out. I mentioned this at the time. There was a previous NO Spotting thread that disappeared (I'm guessing the previous thread- starter deleted the first post and the whole thread ceased to exist.) So I can't find it now.

But it is the Moby version. If I remember correctly there's the "New Order" version with Moby on vocals, and there's also Moby's own version without NO. I think this is the NO-less version of the song in the Equalizer.

Moby version:

NO featuring Moby (from a whole other film!):

^ Oh it is the Moby one? Dunno why but I thought it was someone else. I don’t quite know why the song was chosen to end the film. It had all got more optimistic and brighter with Denzel Washington’s character bumping into the girl from earlier in the film who had since turned her life around and all was good , then New Dawn Fades kicks in.

Love Will Tear Us Apart in the final episode tonight of that nonsense BBC1 drama The Girl Before. Why did I watch the whole 4 episodes?? That house was horrible and surprise surprise not one but two people met a nasty end on those nasty stairs.

A bit of Your Silent Face was played during David Baddiels programme about social media the other night. Don't know if it was his choice of music and he was trying to something witty about Twitter...

Ken Doherty wrote:

A bit of Your Silent Face was played during David Baddiels programme about social media the other night. Don't know if it was his choice of music and he was trying to something witty about Twitter...

I think it's probably safe to say that Baddiel is a fan, based on this:

perspexorange wrote: I remember seeing this sketch when it was broadcast in 1993 and almost dropping my bacon sandwich when I got to the 2:29-2:35 point:

Found an old Interview magazine from the early 90s and this centerfold --- figured I would post it up because I haven't seen it online anywhere, seems a lost photo (maybe for good reason... )

^ Crikey , that’s some photos I’ve never seen before. It was some barbecue at Real World when they were recording Technique??? Edit: ah no, I read the bit again where it says it was when they were recording their 6th album , so that’d be Republic , then . So circa 92-93?

Bizarre Love Triangle was on Gideon Coe’s 6Music evening show on Thursday. Part of his shapes theme show (triangle being the link). Unremarkable except for the fact he played the Pettibone 7” . Not heard that version on the radio since maybe when the single was released in 1986. Usually it’s the album version that gets played.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0013tyc

2manydjs bring you a Blue Monday-themed mix for 6 Music's Desert Island Disco

Nice 20 min mashup of different BM versions and band interviews was on 6music this morning, starts around 11 min in on above link.

Like No Other wrote:

2manydjs bring you a Blue Monday-themed mix for 6 Music's Desert Island Disco

Nice 20 min mashup of different BM versions and band interviews was on 6music this morning...

A more complete version without Lauren yapping over the end. I can only guess Soulwax leaked this somewhere. It's not their official YT channel.

Soulwax have been messing around with BM for a long time...

NO would like to remind you... [TWITTER]1483056643432669184[/TWITTER]

Presumably also to celebrate 'Blue Monday' today, the official 'Countdown' YouTube channel have just posted the band's 1983 appearance on the programme.

However, this appears to be a 'third take', i.e. different from the one that was broadcast on TV on 05/06/83 and also different from the one that appeared on the 'ReelingInTheYears' YouTube Channel a few years back (the one which included a false start and another go at the interview).

As far as I'm aware, the only other time this take was shown was a very short clip which appeared on 'Countdown' a few weeks later than the original broadcast. I used to have this clip on my channel (in poor quality), but got a 'takedown' notice, so removed it. Nice to finally get to see it (although it isn't much different from either of the other takes).

Here you go:

Joy Division’s ‘Love Will Tear Us Apart’ is Keanu Reeves’ favourite song

The Matrix actor was a guest on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert earlier this week, and during his appearance he took part in the show’s ‘Colbert Questionert’ segment in which guests are asked a series of 15 questions designed to “penetrate the soul”.

Among the questions, Reeves was asked to pick one song to listen to for the rest of his life. After groaning and shaking his head a few times, he answered ‘Love Will Tear Us Apart’, the 1980 Joy Division track that was released the month after frontman Ian Curtis‘ death.

Reeves was also asked to name his favourite movie (1975’s Roller Ball, starring James Caan), best sandwich (toasted crunchy peanut butter sandwiches with honey), and his favourite smell. “Today, I’m going pick my 1974 Norton Commando when the engine warms up,” he answered the latter. “When you’ve been giving a good go, the oil in the engine heats up, and the smell that comes off the engine is really good.”

His most amusing answer came when he shared an anecdote about asking his Bill & Ted co-star George Carlin for an autograph. “He wrote, ‘Dear Keanu, Fuck You,'” Reeves remembered. “I always thought he just wrote that for me, but then I met someone else who said that he wrote the same thing to them.”

You can watch Reeves answer Colbert’s questions below:

https://www.nme.com/news/film/joy-divisions-love-will-tear-us-apart-is-keanu-reeves-favourite-song-3138694

ManchesterEveningNews.co.uk put up a small collecton of Hacienda photos.

A couple of odd things: The caption to a photo of some famous faces ignores Tony Wilson, though his face is only slightly obscurred. Also, the picture of Madonna is actually from her Live Aid performance, I believe. It's definitely not her at the Hac.

Andy wrote: Also, the picture of Madonna is actually from her Live Aid performance, I believe. It's definitely not her at the Hac.

Was just about to post the same thing. Weird, as the photos of her at The Haçienda are fairly well known and easily found. Unless there are rights issues to those photos, I guess?

Incidentally, I'm never too sure why news articles mention the whole 'Madonna at The Haçienda' thing, as if it's massively important. She would've appeared at some other club or TV studio eventually. It was hardly her 'big break' which set her on the road to stardom, was it? She was already heading for big things.

I guess she originally flew into Heathrow (or Gatwick, or Manchester), but I don't hear people saying that 'the first place Madonna visited in the UK was the baggage collection area at Heathrow Airport'. It's a non-story.

Again, it is weird that they didn't list Tony on that photo. The only thing I can guess is that the person who was pulling together photos wasn't 100% sure it was Tony, so left him off, just in case it wasn't (after all he's wearing sunglasses, and is at least partially obscured).

Like No Other wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0013tyc

2manydjs bring you a Blue Monday-themed mix for 6 Music's Desert Island Disco

Nice 20 min mashup of different BM versions and band interviews was on 6music this morning, starts around 11 min in on above link.

Listened to the mix on YouTube.It's a fun mix.Great stuff.Interesting and novel concept mixing in parts of live versions.Or is it novel ? I don't actually know to be honest but it's novel to me.Live version spotting, i reckon one of them is from the BBC August 84 thing and one other is from TOTP 1983? Possibly one or two other live snippets in there also? Jury is out on the idea of including one or two interview snippets in the mix but the bank robbers bit from Countdown always makes me smile.

Quite enjoyed those old Hacienda pics Andy included the link to in another post, lot of photos i've never seen before.

Fotz wrote:

Listened to the mix on YouTube.

Speaking of YT, is your YouTube channel still alive?

Debaser wrote:

Fotz wrote:

Listened to the mix on YouTube.

Speaking of YT, is your YouTube channel still alive?

Nope.I hadn't checked my email for sometime and it turned out YouTube had been sending me warnings about copyright infringement or whatever the legal term is. Three strikes or four, can't recall now but anyway i had missed the final warning and they removed my channel.Oh well!

Fotz wrote:

Nope.I hadn't checked my email for sometime and it turned out YouTube had been sending me warnings about copyright infringement or whatever the legal term is. Three strikes or four, can't recall now but anyway i had missed the final warning and they removed my channel.Oh well!

That's frustrating. :-( Any idea which video(s) were the offending articles?

Bernard Sumner (and Joy Division aficionado Keanu Reeves) among those scheduled to appear at this year's Tibet House benefit concert.

RollingStone.com

perspexorange wrote:

Fotz wrote:

Nope.I hadn't checked my email for sometime and it turned out YouTube had been sending me warnings about copyright infringement or whatever the legal term is. Three strikes or four, can't recall now but anyway i had missed the final warning and they removed my channel.Oh well!

That's frustrating. :-( Any idea which video(s) were the offending articles?

Well the videos i'd uploaded that eventually spelt the end of my YouTube channel weren't actually music related.I'd been going through some old VHS tapes of mine last autumn and found some old BBC travel programmes i'd recorded around 1995-1996.One was a series called On The Road Again with a guy called Simon Dring (he passed away just last year) and it was him retracing the hippy trail to India that he'd first done back in the 60s.It was shown on BBC2 in 1995.The other was another travel programme, this time from 1996 on BBC2 with Alexei Sayle travelling through Jordan and stopping at Wadi Rum where Lawrence Of Arabia was filmed and also where many sci fi films of recent years were filmed like the recent remake of Dune and also many others like The Martian.I'd visited the place back in 1995 when i was backpacking.So i watched them again and transferred to digital on my laptop. I'd searched on YouTube to see if anyone had already uploaded them but couldn't find anything so I went ahead with them as i thought they may be of interest to some people out there.The fact that the programmes weren't already on YouTube should have i suppose alerted me that there's a copyright reason why they're not! lol. The email account that i registered my YouTube channel with was an account i tended to rarely check.So the warnings had been coming in but i hadn't seen them and somehow hadn't noticed at first that the videos had been removed .Eventually i saw the email telling me my account had been terminated because of constant copyright infringement.

To be honest i'd become a bit disillusioned anyway with uploading stuff to YouTube.There was a lot of nasty vicious comments on various clips about the video quality not being in HD "This isn't in HD you muppet!" and "Lol , look at the crap video quality this guy uploaded" and much worse.I'm guessing most of those people are twenty somethings who have grown up in a world where they don't know anything else than HD or 4K quality video.And also other stuff like people ripping my videos and then uploading them to their own channel and passing off the transferring and uploading work (and crap picture quality!) as their own.One example is an upload i'd done of a video to digital of the clip of Gillian on that Girl In A Band doc on BBC4 some years ago.Someone had it on their channel and the start and end point were exactly the same as my effort and the video quality and audio identical to mine.Can't prove it but i'm 99.99 certain it was ripped from my channel.And the same with some clips of Tame Impala on Jools Holland i'd transferred and uploaded some years ago.I guess that's the danger if you don't have a watermark on your videos but i never worked out how to do that.

Ok i've ranted and rambled a bit there.But yeah, there yer go .

Andy wrote: Bernard Sumner (and Joy Division aficionado Keanu Reeves) among those scheduled to appear at this year's Tibet House benefit concert.

RollingStone.com

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Fotz wrote:

To be honest i'd become a bit disillusioned anyway with uploading stuff to YouTube.There was a lot of nasty vicious comments on various clips about the video quality not being in HD "This isn't in HD you muppet!" and "Lol , look at the crap video quality this guy uploaded" and much worse.I'm guessing most of those people are twenty somethings who have grown up in a world where they don't know anything else than HD or 4K quality video.And also other stuff like people ripping my videos and then uploading them to their own channel and passing off the transferring and uploading work (and crap picture quality!) as their own.One example is an upload i'd done of a video to digital of the clip of Gillian on that Girl In A Band doc on BBC4 some years ago.Someone had it on their channel and the start and end point were exactly the same as my effort and the video quality and audio identical to mine.Can't prove it but i'm 99.99 certain it was ripped from my channel.And the same with some clips of Tame Impala on Jools Holland i'd transferred and uploaded some years ago.I guess that's the danger if you don't have a watermark on your videos but i never worked out how to do that.

Ok i've ranted and rambled a bit there.But yeah, there yer go .

Pretty frustrating.

I’ve never been sure exactly where companies like the Beeb draw the line with copyright infringement. One YouTuber I follow uploads loads of TOTP appearances daily (not a criticism; I love what he’s doing). You’d think he’d get hit with strikes all the time.

I know what you mean about people criticising quality. I’ve had a few of those myself on my channel. I try to explain in the description that these were taken from nth generation copies, recorded on thirty year old VHS tapes… but you still get a-holes criticising.

Andy wrote: Bernard Sumner (and Joy Division aficionado Keanu Reeves) among those scheduled to appear at this year's Tibet House benefit concert.

It’s funny, a few days before the recent appearance of Keanu on US TV proclaiming his love for LWTUA, I’d read somewhere else that he was a fan. However, I can’t remember where this was and in what context. Does anyone know if this love for the band is new or has he been saying for years that he’s a fan?

I suppose it doesn’t really matter, but I’d like to think that he’d been a fan for years. He seems like a really decent guy. I always think of him as ‘Ted’, so seems a little strange and wacky thinking of a teen Keanu, sitting in his bedroom, listening to Unknown Pleasures, rather than Van Halen.

perspexorange wrote:

Andy wrote: Bernard Sumner (and Joy Division aficionado Keanu Reeves) among those scheduled to appear at this year's Tibet House benefit concert.

It’s funny, a few days before the recent appearance of Keanu on US TV proclaiming his love for LWTUA, I’d read somewhere else that he was a fan. However, I can’t remember where this was and in what context. Does anyone know if this love for the band is new or has he been saying for years that he’s a fan?

I suppose it doesn’t really matter, but I’d like to think that he’d been a fan for years. He seems like a really decent guy. I always think of him as ‘Ted’, so seems a little strange and wacky thinking of a teen Keanu, sitting in his bedroom, listening to Unknown Pleasures, rather than Van Halen.

You're probably correct regarding his tastes as a teen, but he is 57 years old now. He probably picked up on Joy Division a bit later. I saw his band, Dogstar, perform back in the mid-nineties, and they were trying to be something more than a standard rock band. Not that I recall liking them...

Andy wrote:

You're probably correct regarding his tastes as a teen, but he is 57 years old now. He probably picked up on Joy Division a bit later. I saw his band, Dogstar, perform back in the mid-nineties, and they were trying to be something more than a standard rock band. Not that I recall liking them...

That's pretty cool.

I'm still discovering great bands from 40 years ago that I missed first time around. No reason why he shouldn't do the same. After all, it doesn't matter when you got to like JD/NO. It only matters that you do!

Here's something interesting.

There's a guy who's posted episodes of Channel 4's 'The Tube' to YouTube in recent weeks. These appear to be 'unedited rushes' of the episodes (together with time clocks etc.), so contain more footage than the standard episodes.

This means that, in respect of the 21/03/86 appearance by New Order, we actually have some additional footage than what was broadcast. Don't get too excited; it's just an extra minute of 'Broken Promise' after the credits roll and the 'Tyne Tees' logo appears. Weirdly, the track still isn't complete.

Nothing Earth-shattering, but it is 'technically' previously unseen TV footage of the band in action from their golden period.

So if you fancy seeing an extra 60 seconds of Bernard's splendid yellow jumper, here you go:

Also, if you're interested, the complete episode that was broadcast from The Haçienda on 27/01/84 has been uploaded, including the Wilson, Morley, Hook interview and Bernard's appearance as part of the Factory All-Stars. Note, if you're desperate to see Madonna gyrate and mime in her 'legendary first UK performance' , that's included too:

Finally, there's another New Order related item at around 22 minutes on this show (23/12/83). It's an interview with Arthur Baker and includes the 'Confusion' video. Most of the rest of the episode is based around New York nightlife, I think.

Interesting to see that extra bit of Broken Promises on The Tube , thanks.

I always had a distant foggy memory of seeing Arthur Baker being interviewed on The Tube and the Confusion video being shown and would probably have been the first time i saw the vid, thanks for that.So that was the episode i'd seen way back then.

Was good to finally get the Arthur Baker interview, as I'd been after that for years. I managed to snag an 'audio only' version of it a couple of months back, but always nice to see the big man in the flesh. Legend!

He was interviewed on 'The Tube' again on 13/2/87 (which is also on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8EPYfVjKjI&t=7s), but there isn't really anything New Order related in that interview, apart from a brief name-check.

I love that stuff like this keeps cropping up on the 'net from time to time.

Theres a bit of Blue Monday playing in one of the fashion show scenes in House of Gucci.

And it continues!

https://www.umbro.co.uk/browse/c-NewOrderxUmbro-439/