http://www.amazon.com/Ready-2015-Remaster-Gram-Vinyl/dp/B011VX0L30/
I saw this while I was looking around, didn't see it listed here yet.
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http://www.amazon.com/Ready-2015-Remaster-Gram-Vinyl/dp/B011VX0L30/
I saw this while I was looking around, didn't see it listed here yet.
http://www.amazon.com/Republic-2015-Remaster-Gram-Vinyl/dp/B011VX0LG2/ I kept looking and found the listing for Republic and Waiting For Siren's Call as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Waiting-Sirens-Call-Remaster-Vinyl/dp/B011VX0LB2/
Ace.I don't have Get Ready or Republic on vinyl so this is great
Though the links don't seem to be working, can you fix them?
I've fixed the links. Thanks for posting this, great news...
I own all the original LPs but a nice 180g remaster will be welcome especially with Get Ready as they manufactured bugger all copies back in the day.
Thanks for fixing the links, NotAmod.
Whoah what's with the altered cover for Get Ready? Would have been cool if they'd re done the WFTSC cover to have the girl in the river photo like they'd originally planned for that album i'd have bought it then but i already have the vinyl for WFTSC.Get Ready and Republic are the only two original NO albums i don't have on vinyl so it'll be good to finally get them.
That GR cover looks awful :/
Sirens is pricey too but all these albums are worth getting as they are pretty scarce especially GR!
Hi guys, sorry about the links, it was my first time trying to post a clickable in this forum. I'm at work and have been busy since the initial post.
I agree about the alteration to Get Ready's sleeve, maybe it's a sticker on the shrinkwrap.
Not seeing them on Amazon UK yet, seems to be the US outlet only so far. Yes I do hope that isn't the final Get Ready artwork; it reminds me of the Qwest version of Power, Corruption & Lies. Hopefully it's just a place-holder image rather than the final effort.
I hope we're also going to see some CDs or at least lossless digital versions alongside these.
Singles as well - on 4xLP 180g vinyl... As well as a 2xCD collection - both released in October :)
Luckily I have Republic, get ready and wftsc on vinyl so kpjust the singles box set for me. Very expensive autumn for new order fans what with gigs and all these releases. As a vinyl collector I would like, for completion, the release of all the cd only b sides get a vinyl release, there are quite a few of these particularly from the get ready era
I just noticed that the 2015 remastered LPs listed on Amazon have a reported September 25 release date - the same release date as "Music Complete." I wonder how that will play out?
-Mike
steinomite wrote: I just noticed that the 2015 remastered LPs listed on Amazon have a reported September 25 release date - the same release date as "Music Complete." I wonder how that will play out?
-Mike
Simple, it'll just mean we spend more money on that day...
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Nick King wrote: Simple, it'll just mean we spend more money on that day...
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I don't think this is something that Mute would ideally want, as it may distract from new album sales.
nice. will probably get all the vinyl re-releases.
finally got the vinyl+cd version of lost sirens at last.
later -1
email today
"Hello,We now have delivery date(s) for the order you placed on August 08, 2015 (Order# 108-8949608-9373007): New Order "Get Ready (2015 Remaster) (180 Gram Vinyl)" Estimated arrival date: October 13, 2015 - October 20, 2015 New Order "Republic (2015 Remaster) (180 Gram Vinyl)" Estimated arrival date: October 13, 2015 - October 20, 2015"
Hmm... would have been nice to receive it on the release date (25th September)
NotAMod wrote: Good to know, thanks.
Any word on a CD release for these remasters?
There aren't any current plans, probably next year. This is a vinyl only thing for now.
Johnny James wrote:
NotAMod wrote: Good to know, thanks.
Any word on a CD release for these remasters?
There aren't any current plans, probably next year. This is a vinyl only thing for now.
Fair enough.
I notice you get an MP3 code with the record so that will have to suffice for portable devices for now.
Still, I do hope they eventually put these out in digital/lossless format even if it's online only.
For those interested, the remastered versions of Republic and Waiting For The Sirens' Call are up on Qobuz this morning for a tenner each (CD quality) but no sign of the remastered Get Ready yet.
The vinyl editions don't seem to be fully available yet either. As of this morning Juno still lists them as "Forthcoming" with no album art and you have to really search on Amazon UK to bring anything back. I'm going to pop over to Rough Trade East at lunchtime to see if they have any stock (and also to pick up Music Complete on CD) but I'm beginning to get the impression that these have been delayed. Unless anyone knows differently? Regardless, I'll ask at Rough Trade and see what they say.
NotAMod wrote: For those interested, the remastered versions of Republic and Waiting For The Sirens' Call are up on Qobuz this morning for a tenner each (CD quality) but no sign of the remastered Get Ready yet.
The vinyl editions don't seem to be fully available yet either. As of this morning Juno still lists them as "Forthcoming" with no album art and you have to really search on Amazon UK to bring anything back. I'm going to pop over to Rough Trade East at lunchtime to see if they have any stock (and also to pick up Music Complete on CD) but I'm beginning to get the impression that these have been delayed. Unless anyone knows differently? Regardless, I'll ask at Rough Trade and see what they say.
They seem to have been slow to send them out, they may turn up at shops later today, if not then it could be Monday.
That's also true of deliveries of Music Complete too, some were only sent out yesterday.
Johnny James wrote:
NotAMod wrote: Good to know, thanks.
Any word on a CD release for these remasters?
There aren't any current plans, probably next year. This is a vinyl only thing for now.
How do you know this stuff Mr James?
Qobuz is also showing the following:
Movement (2015 Digital Remaster) Power, Corruption & Lies (2015 Digital Remaster) Low-life (2015 Digital Remaster) Brotherhood (2015 Digital Remaster) Technique (2015 Digital Remaster)
Er wot?
Have The Factory Years been re-remastered?!
NotAMod wrote: Qobuz is also showing the following:
Movement (2015 Remaster) Power, Corruption & Lies (2015 Remaster) Low-life (2015 Remaster) Brotherhood (2015 Remaster) Technique (2015 Remaster)
Er wot?
Have The Factory Years been re-remastered?!
hmmm. It doesn't say Technique has been.
Sorry, I linked the non-remastered version by mistake:
Technique (2015 Digital Remaster)
The old credit card's going to be glowing red hot with New Order purchases for this month.
Are the bonus discs being remastered also I wonder?
NotAMod wrote: Qobuz is also showing the following:
Movement (2015 Digital Remaster) Power, Corruption & Lies (2015 Digital Remaster) Low-life (2015 Digital Remaster) Brotherhood (2015 Digital Remaster) Technique (2015 Digital Remaster)
Er wot?
Have The Factory Years been re-remastered?!
Next thing we need is an expert to assess these remasters, if the imperfections have been fixed, if the remasters are better at all than the previous reiterations.
NotAMod wrote:
Are the bonus discs being remastered also I wonder?
No, though Singles takes care of a fair few of those tracks.
Sage_ wrote: Next thing we need is an expert to assess these remasters, if the imperfections have been fixed, if the remasters are better at all than the previous reiterations.
To be fair, the original "album" discs on the 2008 remasters were mostly fine. It was only the bonus discs which suffered badly from imperfections and needed to be repressed. The sound on the bonus disc repressings were very good but they didn't redo the album masterings (until now).
Johnny James wrote:
NotAMod wrote:
Are the bonus discs being remastered also I wonder?
No, though Singles takes care of a fair few of those tracks.
How does Mr James know this stuff? Anyone?
Debaser wrote:
Johnny James wrote:
NotAMod wrote:
Are the bonus discs being remastered also I wonder?
No, though Singles takes care of a fair few of those tracks.
How does Mr James know this stuff? Anyone?
I've been helping out on archive releases.
Back from Rough Trade East. Loads of Music Complete CDs and literally piles of the clear vinyl edition (can't be that limited from the sheer amount they had!). No sign of The London Years reissues... I did ask and was told they were expected today but nothing's arrived. I might check out HMV Oxford St later on if I can be arsed. Most likely I will wait until next week now. Don't much fancy the hell that is Oxford St on a Friday rush hour.
Mr James, do you happen to know if the download card included with these reissues give access to lossless versions or is it just MP3? If it's just MP3 I'll probably purchase what Qobuz has. Many thanks.
NotAMod wrote:
Mr James, do you happen to know if the download card included with these reissues give access to lossless versions or is it just MP3? If it's just MP3 I'll probably purchase what Qobuz has. Many thanks.
I don't know. I did just get flacs from the store this morning (due to buying the big box set). Did you order anything from there?
Sorry I meant The London Years reissue LPs... supposedly they will come with a download card. Do you happen to know if that card gives access to MP3 only or have Warners put up FLAC copies? I ask because I don't particularly want to buy The London Years albums off Qobuz in lossless if I'm going to get a copy anyway included with the 3 x vinyl reissues. Seems a bit of a waste. Cheers.
NotAMod wrote: Sorry I meant The London Years reissue LPs... supposedly they will come with a download card. Do you happen to know if that card gives access to MP3 only or have Warners put up FLAC copies? I ask because I don't particularly want to buy The London Years albums off Qobuz in lossless if I'm going to get a copy anyway included with the 3 x vinyl reissues. Seems a bit of a waste. Cheers.
Aah right.
I rechecked the press sheets for these and it does say MP3 versions.
Johnny James wrote: I've been helping out on archive releases.
Oh like a super-fan consultant? Or you work in the biz?
I found the three vinyl rereleases today in a Viennese record shop. No glossy finish parts on the artwork as the original pressings, but looking good. And "get ready" now has a printed inner sleeve! I want that for my original copy too!
Well I ordered all of these new remasters last night, £65 for 7 albums (ouch).
The one I was looking forward to the most (Republic) sounds good; it's had a decent boost in all areas required although this does inadvertently reveal how bits of Hague's production haven't aged quite as well as others. Still, this new mastering is very welcome and I hope it gets a general CD release with perhaps a few bonus tracks thrown in. WFTSC is still a very loud album even with this new 2015 mastering... it's the least changed of the lot and I was hoping the volume would be lowered a bit but it's still fairly heavy. I wouldn't like to comment if there are any real improvements until I've listened further, I think the treble/high-end's been cleaned up a bit. The only baffling thing is the Get Ready remaster seems to have been left off the Qobuz store and I can't find it anywhere else for download. Unless the 2001 version they have is actually the 2015 version but it's not labelled along the same lines as the others.
Anyway, all five of The Factory Years albums have definitely been re-remastered and sound a bit fuller next to their 2008 counterparts. Good bass and lighter bits of instrumentation which were a bit muffled before are more easily heard especially on Brotherhood (!) They are ever so slightly clipped/brickwalled compared to the 2008 versions but not overly so, fans should still get some fine sound out of them. I detect the hand of Frank Arkwright with these although can't be sure as digital files never come with proper credits (a drawback for sure) but it was nice getting lovely large digital versions of the artwork. They look great.
If you're thinking of getting these I would recommend maybe buying your favourite album first and seeing what you make of the sound. Personally, these seem good enough for me to switch over to from previous masterings.
Oh, and I'm not putting up any frigging graphs
just commenting on how it sounds 😎
NotAMod wrote: Oh, and I'm not putting up any frigging graphs
just commenting on how it sounds 😎
Thank fcuk for that! 😂
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I have bought the three re-issues on vinyl. Sirens has definitely been improved compared to the lousy 2005 CD - you can hear Hooky's bass on Turn for example…
Republic looks good to my hears too, but i cannot compare with the original vinyl.
Get Ready is a complete disaster: volume is so low on the vinyl that you need to push volume really up to hear anything… And when you hear anything the sound is muddy and unclear… I wonder if it's an issue with my copy or a general screw up… Has anyone else listened to the new vinyls?
Oh and by the way - only crappy MP3 versions with the 3 releases, not even the 2015 remastered, with Dynamic Ranges from 6 to 8. Forget about these….
Have cancelled my order with amazon.com of the Get Ready and Republic vinyls and re ordered with amazon.co.uk so saving on heavy shipping cost.Except although it said these were released on 25th Sept now i've purchased them it says i won't receive them til mid October grrrr... I was hoping they'd ship immediately and i'd receive them in the next couple of days as i'll be at home and wouldn't have to traipse to the post office to pick up the missed delivery.Was immediately offered the free MP3 download of both albums after completing my purchase but when i go to the download page and select the tracks and hit download the page just freezes and nothing happens
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Seb wrote: Oh and by the way - only crappy MP3 versions with the 3 releases, not even the 2015 remastered, with Dynamic Ranges from 6 to 8. Forget about these….
Yeah, bizarre that the MP3 versions are the non-remastered versions - I could have just ripped the CDs! 🙄
So, to summarise, the only way to get the 2015 remastered versions digitally is via Qobuzz/7Digital....
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Considering these reissues were supposed to be out last Friday virtually no record stores I contacted in the central London area had them at the start of this week. I eventually managed to find both Get Ready and WFTSC in Rough Trade East but they only had a single copy each and no Republic. The copies I nabbed were not obviously on display but consigned to the Joy Division rack. The guy at the till couldn't tell me when he'd get more copies of Republic. I rang around HMV, Sister Ray and Sounds Of The Universe on my way home from work and they don't have them either.
Distribution issues aside these also appear to have been given zero promotion - nothing on the official New Order Facebook/Twitter/web site - and with that in mind I'm struggling to see why the label bothered at all, what was the point? You can't cash in on the band's renewed publicity if nobody knows the product you're offering is out there. I couldn't even see anything on Rhino's Facebook page. If you don't visit this forum you'd probably have no idea they existed.
Last but not least I've downloaded MP3s offered with at least two of the reissues and they are the old masterings; I mean come on...
Not great.
NotAMod wrote: Considering these reissues were supposed to be out last Friday virtually no record stores I contacted in the central London area had them at the start of this week. I eventually managed to find both Get Ready and WFTSC in Rough Trade East but they only had a single copy each and no Republic. The copies I nabbed were not obviously on display but consigned to the Joy Division rack. The guy at the till couldn't tell me when he'd get more copies of Republic. I rang around HMV, Sister Ray and Sounds Of The Universe on my way home from work and they don't have them either.
Distribution issues aside these also appear to have been given zero promotion - nothing on the official New Order Facebook/Twitter/web site - and with that in mind I'm struggling to see why the label bothered at all, what was the point? You can't cash in on the band's renewed publicity if nobody knows the product you're offering is out there. I couldn't even see anything on Rhino's Facebook page. If you don't visit this forum you'd probably have no idea they existed.
Last but not least I've downloaded MP3s offered with at least two of the reissues and they are the old masterings; I mean come on...
Not great.
They offered these to shops at really short notice (Mon 21st), no promotion but you must order today to get them by the 25th. I guess lots of shops missed out.
I am mystified about the mp3s, how can you tell which mastering it is?
Johnny James wrote: I am mystified about the mp3s, how can you tell which mastering it is?
The Get Ready MP3s I got from the vinyl download sound broadly the same as the original 2001 CD. I compared both how they sounded via headphones and how the waveforms looked in Audacity to a FLAC copy I have of the original disc. A mate who nabbed the Republic reissue sent me a copy of the MP3s and I've compared a couple of them to both the original 1993 CD/2015 Qobuz remaster. The Republic MP3s are weird; some of them (World, Ruined In A Day & Chemical) match the original 1993 CD both in terms of sound and waveform. Others like Regret are actually louder than the 2015 Remaster FLAC I got from Qobuz and resemble something closer to the 2005 Singles compilation. At any rate they're not consistent across the set.
Er yeah, I thought the Republic MP3 download was going to be identical to what I got off Qobuz which is actually a consistent, nice sounding remaster.
NotAMod wrote:
Johnny James wrote: I am mystified about the mp3s, how can you tell which mastering it is?
The Get Ready MP3s I got from the vinyl download sound broadly the same as the original 2001 CD. I compared both how they sounded via headphones and how the waveforms looked in Audacity to a FLAC copy I have of the original disc. A mate who nabbed the Republic reissue sent me a copy of the MP3s and I've compared a couple of them to both the original 1993 CD/2015 Qobuz remaster. The Republic MP3s are weird; some of them (World, Ruined In A Day & Chemical) match the original 1993 CD both in terms of sound and waveform. Others like Regret are actually louder than the 2015 Remaster FLAC I got from Qobuz and resemble something closer to the 2005 Singles compilation. At any rate they're not consistent across the set.
Er yeah, I thought the Republic MP3 download was going to be identical to what I got off Qobuz which is actually a consistent, nice sounding remaster.
And did you have a chance to listen to the vinyls? How does your Get Ready copy sounds?
Had an email from Amazon saying they will despatch my order for Get Ready and Republic vinyls earlier than originally stated.New estimated arrival date is 5th Oct rather than 15th to 19th Oct .So that's good news![]()
My Get Ready and Republic vinyls were delivered today, early so that was great.Not had a chance to listen and won't be able to til tomorrow now.Only quibble is they've scrimped a bit on the inner sleeve artwork for both albums haven't they? You don't get all the stuff that was with the original Republic CD.Get Ready's inner sleeve artwork is less also.Still, at least they have some artwork on the inner sleeve and not just a blank white paper inner.Guess you just have to accept the Republic inner artwork for example only works with a CD booklet.No big deal.
Fotzepolitic wrote: My Get Ready and Republic vinyls were delivered today, early so that was great.Not had a chance to listen and won't be able to til tomorrow now.Only quibble is they've scrimped a bit on the inner sleeve artwork for both albums haven't they? You don't get all the stuff that was with the original Republic CD.Get Ready's inner sleeve artwork is less also.Still, at least they have some artwork on the inner sleeve and not just a blank white paper inner.Guess you just have to accept the Republic inner artwork for example only works with a CD booklet.No big deal.
Get Ready didn't have an inner sleeve originally. Republic's is the same as the original.
Most of the albums are now appearing on iTunes as Mastered for iTunes. I'd suspect these are the new remasters, although there's no specific (2015 remastered version) tags like some of the other download stores. Also noticed that NO's Substance has disappeared from sale on iTunes, would make sense for that to be re-released in the near future if the second discs of the last reissues haven't been included in this latest catalogue remastering.
I am still a bit confused as to why the Get Ready 2015 remaster is not available on digital stores yet but all of the re-remastered Factory ones plus Republic/WFTSC are.
Does anyone in the know, know why this may be? We've basically established that the MP3s given away with the new Get Ready vinyl itself are not remastered.
It's just odd they'd redo everything but leave one out.
I was listening to the new 2015 remastered version of Technique today and noticed that there's an audio glitch on the second track "All the Way." It happens right at 2:51. It sounds like the tape is being warped for a split second. The mp3s I have were purchased from Amazon.com.
Is there anyone I should contact to somehow have this fixed? Even the official New Order YouTube channel just a put the album up for streaming and the glitch is present there as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Eu8sKgeBN8
I emailed Rhino's website about the new glitch on All the Way, so hopefully they look into it.
Finally got round today to playing the vinyls of Republic and Get Ready i received a couple of weeks ago as had been trying to get round to buying a new stylus.Stylus popped through the letterbox today.Yeah both albums sounding good- can hear stuff on Republic i'd never picked up on before.Got lost in this thread about what's been remastered and what hasn't but if one or both of them hasn't then i could have Amazon under the trade descriptions act as the sticker on the front of both of them says "features 2015 remaster" (Doesn't specify if it's the vinyl or mp3).Or is it just the vinyl versions that have been remastered and not the mp3 (haven't downloaded them yet) or vice versa?
Still getting frequent crackles even though it's brand new vinyl played with a brand new stylus.Bane of my life that shit.
I've listened to the new 2015 version of Republic (digital download) and noticed a lot of new little things as well. All of the new 2015 remasters seem to have heavy stereo emphasis added, so a lot of those subtle stereo sounds (such as Gillian's keyboard and the drum reverb) cut through the mix better. They did a good job with theses and so far I've only noticed that one error on Technique. The previous glitch on "The Him" and dropout on "Sunrise" from the 2007 versions have both been fixed.
Republic seems the far superior vinyl .My copy of Get Ready is unfathomably for a brand new vinyl full of crackles and pops though if i can listen past that it's ok ish.Republic is crystal clear.Listening even on headphones i could almost be listening to the CD or mp3.Really rich sound on the bass and , well, everything really.And it's pretty fucking loud![]()
Except i like Get Ready as an album more than Republic.Revisiting songs like Turn My Way, 60MPH and Vicious Streak was good.Unlike many others i always really liked Turn My Way.Was never a fan of Corgan but i think his vocal really gels with the song.Vicious Streak is a great underrated track.
Here in the USA, where are the *confirmed* Republic digital remasters available from?
What I've heard on YouTube, they sound pretty great! Thanks in advance.
Got Get Ready yesterday on vinyl. Put it on directly after another record - Blonde on Blonde - and had to crank the volume considerably. Is it a quiet pressing or is Bob a bit more rambunctious than I thought?
Edward wrote: Here in the USA, where are the *confirmed* Republic digital remasters available from?
What I've heard on YouTube, they sound pretty great! Thanks in advance.
It's a little tricky to find on Amazon since there's multiple versions of the album, but it's right here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015KPUZ7W/
"Turn" on the new WFTSC remaster is curiously the promo mix which was on most of the unfinished CDrs of the album 10 years ago and not the one which made the final pressing.
It's quite subtle but the promo/remaster version starts with a cymbal crash once the reverse guitars reach their climax and the overall drum beat is 'busier'.
The "Turn" on the original WFTSC has no cymbal crash(es). It's a subtle point but er yeah, there you go. A different mix for us this time around.
NotAMod wrote: "Turn" on the new WFTSC remaster is curiously the promo mix which was on most of the unfinished CDrs of the album 10 years ago and not the one which made the final pressing.
It's quite subtle but the promo/remaster version starts with a cymbal crash once the reverse guitars reach their climax and the overall drum beat is 'busier'.
The "Turn" on the original WFTSC has no cymbal crash(es). It's a subtle point but er yeah, there you go. A different mix for us this time around.
Interesting because i always thought it sounds like the promo mix version kind of jumps at the climax of the reverse guitar in the intro into the bit where everything else comes in (around the 9 or 10 seconds mark) Like a needle on the record jumping.Maybe they thought the same and by emphasising or mixing in a cymbal crash it hid the jump?
Fotzepolitic wrote:
NotAMod wrote: "Turn" on the new WFTSC remaster is curiously the promo mix which was on most of the unfinished CDrs of the album 10 years ago and not the one which made the final pressing.
It's quite subtle but the promo/remaster version starts with a cymbal crash once the reverse guitars reach their climax and the overall drum beat is 'busier'.
The "Turn" on the original WFTSC has no cymbal crash(es). It's a subtle point but er yeah, there you go. A different mix for us this time around.
Interesting because i always thought it sounds like the promo mix version kind of jumps at the climax of the reverse guitar in the intro into the bit where everything else comes in (around the 9 or 10 seconds mark) Like a needle on the record jumping.Maybe they thought the same and by emphasising or mixing in a cymbal crash it hid the jump?
you two win the award for too much time on their hands.
And I thought I was that person. Haha
Later -1
Convinced now GR is a horrible pressing. Very quiet while at the same time crackly. WFTSC seems better in comparison.
M1 wrote: Convinced now GR is a horrible pressing. Very quiet while at the same time crackly. WFTSC seems better in comparison.
Next time, Get Ready will need to be split over two records.
I guess you can treat this pressing as a re-run of the original, including the original flaws (and adding an inner sleeve).
Kind of glad in a way Get Ready is a bad pressing.Thought it was just my bad luck or a problem with my stylus.
Anyone else hear a tiny weird little noise just before the start of every track on both Get Ready and Republic vinyl? It's a quiet little kind of squeak that lasts just a second or so though i only really hear it on headphones.
that's a shame to hear (I would have loved Get Ready on vinyl) but I guess we should have expected it after they continued to squeeze the album onto a single disc.
Moderne Decay wrote: It's a little tricky to find on Amazon since there's multiple versions of the album, but it's right here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015KPUZ7W/
Thank you Moderne. I had bought the 'regular' DD before your comment. After your comment, I relented and bought both Technique and Republic remasters. I don't think I can be bothered with the others just yet.