Get Ready to be reissued on vinyl! — Forum Archive

25 Sep 2015, 11:11

Johnny James wrote:

NotAMod wrote:

Are the bonus discs being remastered also I wonder?

No, though Singles takes care of a fair few of those tracks.

How does Mr James know this stuff? Anyone?

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25 Sep 2015, 11:35

Debaser wrote:

Johnny James wrote:

NotAMod wrote:

Are the bonus discs being remastered also I wonder?

No, though Singles takes care of a fair few of those tracks.

How does Mr James know this stuff? Anyone?

I've been helping out on archive releases.

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25 Sep 2015, 12:08

Back from Rough Trade East. Loads of Music Complete CDs and literally piles of the clear vinyl edition (can't be that limited from the sheer amount they had!). No sign of The London Years reissues... I did ask and was told they were expected today but nothing's arrived. I might check out HMV Oxford St later on if I can be arsed. Most likely I will wait until next week now. Don't much fancy the hell that is Oxford St on a Friday rush hour.

Mr James, do you happen to know if the download card included with these reissues give access to lossless versions or is it just MP3? If it's just MP3 I'll probably purchase what Qobuz has. Many thanks.

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25 Sep 2015, 12:14

NotAMod wrote:

Mr James, do you happen to know if the download card included with these reissues give access to lossless versions or is it just MP3? If it's just MP3 I'll probably purchase what Qobuz has. Many thanks.

I don't know. I did just get flacs from the store this morning (due to buying the big box set). Did you order anything from there?

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25 Sep 2015, 12:25

Sorry I meant The London Years reissue LPs... supposedly they will come with a download card. Do you happen to know if that card gives access to MP3 only or have Warners put up FLAC copies? I ask because I don't particularly want to buy The London Years albums off Qobuz in lossless if I'm going to get a copy anyway included with the 3 x vinyl reissues. Seems a bit of a waste. Cheers.

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25 Sep 2015, 12:36 · edited 25 Sep 2015, 12:50

NotAMod wrote: Sorry I meant The London Years reissue LPs... supposedly they will come with a download card. Do you happen to know if that card gives access to MP3 only or have Warners put up FLAC copies? I ask because I don't particularly want to buy The London Years albums off Qobuz in lossless if I'm going to get a copy anyway included with the 3 x vinyl reissues. Seems a bit of a waste. Cheers.

Aah right.

I rechecked the press sheets for these and it does say MP3 versions.

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25 Sep 2015, 13:40

Johnny James wrote: I've been helping out on archive releases.

Oh like a super-fan consultant? Or you work in the biz?

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25 Sep 2015, 14:43

I found the three vinyl rereleases today in a Viennese record shop. No glossy finish parts on the artwork as the original pressings, but looking good. And "get ready" now has a printed inner sleeve! I want that for my original copy too!

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26 Sep 2015, 16:47

Well I ordered all of these new remasters last night, £65 for 7 albums (ouch).

The one I was looking forward to the most (Republic) sounds good; it's had a decent boost in all areas required although this does inadvertently reveal how bits of Hague's production haven't aged quite as well as others. Still, this new mastering is very welcome and I hope it gets a general CD release with perhaps a few bonus tracks thrown in. WFTSC is still a very loud album even with this new 2015 mastering... it's the least changed of the lot and I was hoping the volume would be lowered a bit but it's still fairly heavy. I wouldn't like to comment if there are any real improvements until I've listened further, I think the treble/high-end's been cleaned up a bit. The only baffling thing is the Get Ready remaster seems to have been left off the Qobuz store and I can't find it anywhere else for download. Unless the 2001 version they have is actually the 2015 version but it's not labelled along the same lines as the others.

Anyway, all five of The Factory Years albums have definitely been re-remastered and sound a bit fuller next to their 2008 counterparts. Good bass and lighter bits of instrumentation which were a bit muffled before are more easily heard especially on Brotherhood (!) They are ever so slightly clipped/brickwalled compared to the 2008 versions but not overly so, fans should still get some fine sound out of them. I detect the hand of Frank Arkwright with these although can't be sure as digital files never come with proper credits (a drawback for sure) but it was nice getting lovely large digital versions of the artwork. They look great.

If you're thinking of getting these I would recommend maybe buying your favourite album first and seeing what you make of the sound. Personally, these seem good enough for me to switch over to from previous masterings.

Oh, and I'm not putting up any frigging graphs [:d] just commenting on how it sounds 😎

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26 Sep 2015, 19:13

NotAMod wrote: Oh, and I'm not putting up any frigging graphs just commenting on how it sounds 😎

Thank fcuk for that! 😂

[clown]

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30 Sep 2015, 09:48 · edited 30 Sep 2015, 09:50

I have bought the three re-issues on vinyl. Sirens has definitely been improved compared to the lousy 2005 CD - you can hear Hooky's bass on Turn for example…

Republic looks good to my hears too, but i cannot compare with the original vinyl.

Get Ready is a complete disaster: volume is so low on the vinyl that you need to push volume really up to hear anything… And when you hear anything the sound is muddy and unclear… I wonder if it's an issue with my copy or a general screw up… Has anyone else listened to the new vinyls?

Oh and by the way - only crappy MP3 versions with the 3 releases, not even the 2015 remastered, with Dynamic Ranges from 6 to 8. Forget about these….

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30 Sep 2015, 11:54 · edited 30 Sep 2015, 11:55

Have cancelled my order with amazon.com of the Get Ready and Republic vinyls and re ordered with amazon.co.uk so saving on heavy shipping cost.Except although it said these were released on 25th Sept now i've purchased them it says i won't receive them til mid October grrrr... I was hoping they'd ship immediately and i'd receive them in the next couple of days as i'll be at home and wouldn't have to traipse to the post office to pick up the missed delivery.Was immediately offered the free MP3 download of both albums after completing my purchase but when i go to the download page and select the tracks and hit download the page just freezes and nothing happens [:(] [:(] 😕 😕

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30 Sep 2015, 16:14

Seb wrote: Oh and by the way - only crappy MP3 versions with the 3 releases, not even the 2015 remastered, with Dynamic Ranges from 6 to 8. Forget about these….

Yeah, bizarre that the MP3 versions are the non-remastered versions - I could have just ripped the CDs! 🙄

So, to summarise, the only way to get the 2015 remastered versions digitally is via Qobuzz/7Digital....

😎

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30 Sep 2015, 16:40 · edited 30 Sep 2015, 16:41

Considering these reissues were supposed to be out last Friday virtually no record stores I contacted in the central London area had them at the start of this week. I eventually managed to find both Get Ready and WFTSC in Rough Trade East but they only had a single copy each and no Republic. The copies I nabbed were not obviously on display but consigned to the Joy Division rack. The guy at the till couldn't tell me when he'd get more copies of Republic. I rang around HMV, Sister Ray and Sounds Of The Universe on my way home from work and they don't have them either.

Distribution issues aside these also appear to have been given zero promotion - nothing on the official New Order Facebook/Twitter/web site - and with that in mind I'm struggling to see why the label bothered at all, what was the point? You can't cash in on the band's renewed publicity if nobody knows the product you're offering is out there. I couldn't even see anything on Rhino's Facebook page. If you don't visit this forum you'd probably have no idea they existed.

Last but not least I've downloaded MP3s offered with at least two of the reissues and they are the old masterings; I mean come on...

Not great.

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30 Sep 2015, 20:06

NotAMod wrote: Considering these reissues were supposed to be out last Friday virtually no record stores I contacted in the central London area had them at the start of this week. I eventually managed to find both Get Ready and WFTSC in Rough Trade East but they only had a single copy each and no Republic. The copies I nabbed were not obviously on display but consigned to the Joy Division rack. The guy at the till couldn't tell me when he'd get more copies of Republic. I rang around HMV, Sister Ray and Sounds Of The Universe on my way home from work and they don't have them either.

Distribution issues aside these also appear to have been given zero promotion - nothing on the official New Order Facebook/Twitter/web site - and with that in mind I'm struggling to see why the label bothered at all, what was the point? You can't cash in on the band's renewed publicity if nobody knows the product you're offering is out there. I couldn't even see anything on Rhino's Facebook page. If you don't visit this forum you'd probably have no idea they existed.

Last but not least I've downloaded MP3s offered with at least two of the reissues and they are the old masterings; I mean come on...

Not great.

They offered these to shops at really short notice (Mon 21st), no promotion but you must order today to get them by the 25th. I guess lots of shops missed out.

I am mystified about the mp3s, how can you tell which mastering it is?

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30 Sep 2015, 20:59

Johnny James wrote: I am mystified about the mp3s, how can you tell which mastering it is?

The Get Ready MP3s I got from the vinyl download sound broadly the same as the original 2001 CD. I compared both how they sounded via headphones and how the waveforms looked in Audacity to a FLAC copy I have of the original disc. A mate who nabbed the Republic reissue sent me a copy of the MP3s and I've compared a couple of them to both the original 1993 CD/2015 Qobuz remaster. The Republic MP3s are weird; some of them (World, Ruined In A Day & Chemical) match the original 1993 CD both in terms of sound and waveform. Others like Regret are actually louder than the 2015 Remaster FLAC I got from Qobuz and resemble something closer to the 2005 Singles compilation. At any rate they're not consistent across the set.

Er yeah, I thought the Republic MP3 download was going to be identical to what I got off Qobuz which is actually a consistent, nice sounding remaster.

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1 Oct 2015, 11:39

NotAMod wrote:

Johnny James wrote: I am mystified about the mp3s, how can you tell which mastering it is?

The Get Ready MP3s I got from the vinyl download sound broadly the same as the original 2001 CD. I compared both how they sounded via headphones and how the waveforms looked in Audacity to a FLAC copy I have of the original disc. A mate who nabbed the Republic reissue sent me a copy of the MP3s and I've compared a couple of them to both the original 1993 CD/2015 Qobuz remaster. The Republic MP3s are weird; some of them (World, Ruined In A Day & Chemical) match the original 1993 CD both in terms of sound and waveform. Others like Regret are actually louder than the 2015 Remaster FLAC I got from Qobuz and resemble something closer to the 2005 Singles compilation. At any rate they're not consistent across the set.

Er yeah, I thought the Republic MP3 download was going to be identical to what I got off Qobuz which is actually a consistent, nice sounding remaster.

And did you have a chance to listen to the vinyls? How does your Get Ready copy sounds?

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1 Oct 2015, 18:13

Had an email from Amazon saying they will despatch my order for Get Ready and Republic vinyls earlier than originally stated.New estimated arrival date is 5th Oct rather than 15th to 19th Oct .So that's good news [:)]

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2 Oct 2015, 06:05

Be nice if they had bonus discs as well [:d]

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2 Oct 2015, 11:52

Movin' On.

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3 Oct 2015, 15:24

My Get Ready and Republic vinyls were delivered today, early so that was great.Not had a chance to listen and won't be able to til tomorrow now.Only quibble is they've scrimped a bit on the inner sleeve artwork for both albums haven't they? You don't get all the stuff that was with the original Republic CD.Get Ready's inner sleeve artwork is less also.Still, at least they have some artwork on the inner sleeve and not just a blank white paper inner.Guess you just have to accept the Republic inner artwork for example only works with a CD booklet.No big deal.

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4 Oct 2015, 10:26

Fotzepolitic wrote: My Get Ready and Republic vinyls were delivered today, early so that was great.Not had a chance to listen and won't be able to til tomorrow now.Only quibble is they've scrimped a bit on the inner sleeve artwork for both albums haven't they? You don't get all the stuff that was with the original Republic CD.Get Ready's inner sleeve artwork is less also.Still, at least they have some artwork on the inner sleeve and not just a blank white paper inner.Guess you just have to accept the Republic inner artwork for example only works with a CD booklet.No big deal.

Get Ready didn't have an inner sleeve originally. Republic's is the same as the original.

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4 Oct 2015, 16:40 · edited 4 Oct 2015, 17:19

Most of the albums are now appearing on iTunes as Mastered for iTunes. I'd suspect these are the new remasters, although there's no specific (2015 remastered version) tags like some of the other download stores. Also noticed that NO's Substance has disappeared from sale on iTunes, would make sense for that to be re-released in the near future if the second discs of the last reissues haven't been included in this latest catalogue remastering.

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4 Oct 2015, 18:43

I am still a bit confused as to why the Get Ready 2015 remaster is not available on digital stores yet but all of the re-remastered Factory ones plus Republic/WFTSC are.

Does anyone in the know, know why this may be? We've basically established that the MP3s given away with the new Get Ready vinyl itself are not remastered.

It's just odd they'd redo everything but leave one out.

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8 Oct 2015, 23:12 · edited 8 Oct 2015, 23:15

I was listening to the new 2015 remastered version of Technique today and noticed that there's an audio glitch on the second track "All the Way." It happens right at 2:51. It sounds like the tape is being warped for a split second. The mp3s I have were purchased from Amazon.com.

Is there anyone I should contact to somehow have this fixed? Even the official New Order YouTube channel just a put the album up for streaming and the glitch is present there as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Eu8sKgeBN8

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14 Oct 2015, 19:54

I emailed Rhino's website about the new glitch on All the Way, so hopefully they look into it.

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14 Oct 2015, 20:07

Finally got round today to playing the vinyls of Republic and Get Ready i received a couple of weeks ago as had been trying to get round to buying a new stylus.Stylus popped through the letterbox today.Yeah both albums sounding good- can hear stuff on Republic i'd never picked up on before.Got lost in this thread about what's been remastered and what hasn't but if one or both of them hasn't then i could have Amazon under the trade descriptions act as the sticker on the front of both of them says "features 2015 remaster" (Doesn't specify if it's the vinyl or mp3).Or is it just the vinyl versions that have been remastered and not the mp3 (haven't downloaded them yet) or vice versa?

Still getting frequent crackles even though it's brand new vinyl played with a brand new stylus.Bane of my life that shit.

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14 Oct 2015, 20:20

I've listened to the new 2015 version of Republic (digital download) and noticed a lot of new little things as well. All of the new 2015 remasters seem to have heavy stereo emphasis added, so a lot of those subtle stereo sounds (such as Gillian's keyboard and the drum reverb) cut through the mix better. They did a good job with theses and so far I've only noticed that one error on Technique. The previous glitch on "The Him" and dropout on "Sunrise" from the 2007 versions have both been fixed.

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15 Oct 2015, 19:55 · edited 15 Oct 2015, 20:01

Republic seems the far superior vinyl .My copy of Get Ready is unfathomably for a brand new vinyl full of crackles and pops though if i can listen past that it's ok ish.Republic is crystal clear.Listening even on headphones i could almost be listening to the CD or mp3.Really rich sound on the bass and , well, everything really.And it's pretty fucking loud [:)]

Except i like Get Ready as an album more than Republic.Revisiting songs like Turn My Way, 60MPH and Vicious Streak was good.Unlike many others i always really liked Turn My Way.Was never a fan of Corgan but i think his vocal really gels with the song.Vicious Streak is a great underrated track.

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15 Oct 2015, 20:24

Here in the USA, where are the *confirmed* Republic digital remasters available from?

What I've heard on YouTube, they sound pretty great! Thanks in advance.

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