Music Complete: Reviews

Does Michael Monkhouse even like New Order?

A - Yes

B - No

C - I don't give a fuck about Michael Monkhouse.

D - Michael Monkhouse doesn't give a fuck about me.

E - No one gives a fuck about anyone really. We live in a dark and lonely world beneath an unfeeling, unflinching sky and death is the only truth.

F - Melanie C.

Yes I like NO, though my obsessive / collector days wore off in the mid-90's, partly because leaving the UK made it tough to track down info and songs, but mainly because of dross like 'Rep' and 'RTP'. I just like to remain objective (often confused with critical) and realistic (often confused with pessimistic). I was nutsy re '93 but some of the journalistic hyperbole and 'NO Story' comments made me physically sick... As a forum user I also have the right to expose some of the more ridiculous comments I've read here, but I won't bring any up 'cos it'll be misunderstood as being rude. I can't be bothered with the reviews. Whatever they say I know I'm gonna buy and listen and make up my own mind anyway.

Fotzepolitic wrote:

edspess wrote:

Fotzepolitic wrote: From that description i've got a feeling Nothing But A Fool is the second teaser snippet they released.I maybe proved wrong of course but the "warm endorphin rush of jingle jangle guitars and softly glowing synths" would seem to fit, no?

I thought Steve identified clip 2 (or clip 3 if we include the 8 second Restless teaser) as "Unlearn This Hatred" on the Radcliffe & Maconie show a couple of weeks back. Or did I just imagine that?

Well, Steve identified on Radcliffe & Maconie this clip (no.3) as Unlearn this Hatred

That just shows how poor my memory is...

Debaser wrote:

LostSiren wrote: I'm just having some fun. No offence intended.

You're in the wrong place.

^ Ha, you've managed to muck up the quotes there somehow. You've got Lost Siren saying my quote , and you've got me saying your comment. Confusion! Anyway, "ooh!" is what I wanted to reply to you Mr Monkhouse.

Fucking difficult this Internetty thingy.

Andy wrote:

The Shadow wrote: Well I imagine after these reviews everyone on this forum is getting extremely excited. Good to see respectable sites like quietus are enjoying the album. If restless is the worst track then this album is going to be pretty damn good as I love restless even if as somebody says on the comments on the quietus for the fat and over 50's!

For the record Michael Monkhouse must be a new order obsessive judging by the number of comments he has made on this site,ctwisted or otherwise. I bet he is more excited than Linus for the new album

Chances are, Monkhouse is currently engorged with excitement. Don't worry, he'll get a hold of himself.

Maybe that's the problem, he needs to let go of himself!

In the words of Oscar Wilde, there is only one thing worse than being spoken about. And that is One Direction. I don't mind if the albums crap cos there's a PIL one coming out at the same time.

Cranelane wrote:

Andy wrote:

The Shadow wrote: Well I imagine after these reviews everyone on this forum is getting extremely excited. Good to see respectable sites like quietus are enjoying the album. If restless is the worst track then this album is going to be pretty damn good as I love restless even if as somebody says on the comments on the quietus for the fat and over 50's!

For the record Michael Monkhouse must be a new order obsessive judging by the number of comments he has made on this site,ctwisted or otherwise. I bet he is more excited than Linus for the new album

Chances are, Monkhouse is currently engorged with excitement. Don't worry, he'll get a hold of himself.

Maybe that's the problem, he needs to let go of himself!

Yes. Clearly a reference to him holding his sausage hostage.

On this day, whatever the fuck it is, I hereby declare that as per the new forum guidelines:

1. If Bernard says the words 'new material' and we all know it won't be for another 496251 years, I shall get excited and start a new thread. Under no circumstances whatsoever shall I write 'we all know it won't be for another 496251 years', because that is negative and moaning and spoiling it for wide-eyed, wetarded womantics.
2. The Other Two are very nice. Doesn't matter they've only done 2 albums in 24 years and they're both shit, because they are so fucking NICE. www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vPUeB2ZqQU
3. Gillian is gorgeous. Like, if any right-minded guy could choose between her or Cameron Diaz, Megan Fox, Scarlett Johanson or Melanie C, it'd have to be sexy, charismatic, no-make-up-at-all 'Bertie wunnit.
4. If Hooky says anything not NICE, I shall be gob-smacked thereby. Peter Hook is renowned in the biz for his reticence, discretion and kindness towards any other act, even if he doesn't like it. How could he stoop so low?
5. I was born the day 'Unknown Pleasures' came out and bought it on vinyl when still a foetus. Over the last 36 years it's gone from vinyl to CD to vinyl to CD to vinyl to CD and is, in 2015, now on vinyl again. I shall therefore get excited again and start another thread and place my order straight away, even though (a) Rhino are contractually obliged to fuck it up, (b) I've had all my life to listen to it and could hear it for free on Youtube anyway, (c) I have less money than Van Gogh, (d) no one's bought a record player since Buddha, and (e).

Michael Monkhouse wrote: On this day, whatever the fuck it is, I hereby declare that as per the new forum guidelines:

1. If Bernard says the words 'new material' and we all know it won't be for another 496251 years, I shall get excited and start a new thread. Under no circumstances whatsoever shall I write 'we all know it won't be for another 496251 years', because that is negative and moaning and spoiling it for wide-eyed, wetarded womantics.
2. The Other Two are very nice. Doesn't matter they've only done 2 albums in 24 years and they're both shit, because they are so fucking NICE. www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vPUeB2ZqQU
3. Gillian is gorgeous. Like, if any right-minded guy could choose between her or Cameron Diaz, Megan Fox, Scarlett Johanson or Melanie C, it'd have to be sexy, charismatic, no-make-up-at-all 'Bertie wunnit.
4. If Hooky says anything not NICE, I shall be gob-smacked thereby. Peter Hook is renowned in the biz for his reticence, discretion and kindness towards any other act, even if he doesn't like it. How could he stoop so low?
5. I was born the day 'Unknown Pleasures' came out and bought it on vinyl when still a foetus. Over the last 36 years it's gone from vinyl to CD to vinyl to CD to vinyl to CD and is, in 2015, now on vinyl again. I shall therefore get excited again and start another thread and place my order straight away, even though (a) Rhino are contractually obliged to fuck it up, (b) I've had all my life to listen to it and could hear it for free on Youtube anyway, (c) I have less money than Van Gogh, (d) no one's bought a record player since Buddha, and (e).

Aye!

Excerpts from q magazine:

There's plenty to surprise on Music Complete, the 10th New Order album and their first completely new recording together in a decade. There are outright techno bangers with an aggression they’ve never achieved before. There’s an irrepressible bouncy castle of Euro-pop called Tutti Frutti, complete with a lascivious Italian voice, an echo of the ersatz Barry White who oozed, “You’ve got loooove technique” on Fine Time back in the E’d-up days of 1988. And there’s an Elmore Leonard-style spoken-word soliloquy (Stray Dog) gruffly delivered by none other than Iggy Pop. It is New Order with the colour turned up.

But strangest and most brilliant of all – and by far the furthest that New Order have travelled from their monochrome beginnings as Joy Division, the most magnificently fatalistic band in all music history – is an extraordinary new song called People On The High Line. Beginning with a flurry of Chic guitar, it unfurls into a balls-out hilarious fantasia of hammering house pianos, actual funk bass, disco strings and ecstatically lovelorn lyrics. It’s a tentpole track for Music Complete, an unabashed report-to-the- dancefloor album that matches New Order’s previous Ibizan zenith Technique for outright rave-mental excitement. If nothing else, it should finally see off anyone who’s still holding out for another Love Will Tear Us Apart. People On The High Line is New Order’s very own Club Tropicana. Actually, scratch that – it’s their Uptown Funk.

“You can blame Tom for that,” says Stephen Morris, 57, New Order’s lugubrious drummer-programmer-producer, in reference to bassist and new boy Tom Chapman. “He loves all that stuff. Nothing wrong with wanting to be in a disco band. God knows, we did for years. These tunes just make you smile, don’t they? Joy Division would never, ever make something like that. Which,” he adds mischievously, “is all the more reason for doing it.”

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Michael Monkhouse wrote: On this day, whatever the fuck it is, I hereby declare that as per the new forum guidelines:

1. If Bernard says the words 'new material' and we all know it won't be for another 496251 years, I shall get excited and start a new thread. Under no circumstances whatsoever shall I write 'we all know it won't be for another 496251 years', because that is negative and moaning and spoiling it for wide-eyed, wetarded womantics.
2. The Other Two are very nice. Doesn't matter they've only done 2 albums in 24 years and they're both shit, because they are so fucking NICE. www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vPUeB2ZqQU
3. Gillian is gorgeous. Like, if any right-minded guy could choose between her or Cameron Diaz, Megan Fox, Scarlett Johanson or Melanie C, it'd have to be sexy, charismatic, no-make-up-at-all 'Bertie wunnit.
4. If Hooky says anything not NICE, I shall be gob-smacked thereby. Peter Hook is renowned in the biz for his reticence, discretion and kindness towards any other act, even if he doesn't like it. How could he stoop so low?
5. I was born the day 'Unknown Pleasures' came out and bought it on vinyl when still a foetus. Over the last 36 years it's gone from vinyl to CD to vinyl to CD to vinyl to CD and is, in 2015, now on vinyl again. I shall therefore get excited again and start another thread and place my order straight away, even though (a) Rhino are contractually obliged to fuck it up, (b) I've had all my life to listen to it and could hear it for free on Youtube anyway, (c) I have less money than Van Gogh, (d) no one's bought a record player since Buddha, and (e).

Michael, I apologize for using your name earlier. I was defending Linus for being dinged for being enthusiastic, really, not looking to take other people to task. You must feel like someone walked in on you unexpectedly!

No no, I wasn't offended or anything! My post had nothing to do with your comment - I was just ironising on some of the things I hear from the fans. Apologies if that wasn't clear.

Feck it.Some of our overseas friends like young Linus may not have seen these reviews so here yer go.I guess you can right click and save image to computer where you can open in a programme where they are easy to read.

Q magazine

Mojo

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Fotzepolitic wrote: Feck it.Some of our overseas friends like young Linus may not have seen these reviews so here yer go.I guess you can right click and save image to computer where you can open in a programme where they are easy to read.

Q magazine

Mojo

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Thanks for posting it, I really appreciate it, enjoyed reading it.

Small mistake in the Mojo review: Gillian was actually involved in writing and recording Get Ready, but not touring it. She's still ugly though.

You know when you think something, and then you think: If I say that out loud it might sound sexist or whatever? Well I'm thinking: Hmm, Gillian looks like she's lost weight. And in the interests of balance: Bernard looks like he needs to. Anyway, as you were...

Nothing sexist about that. Steve's even worse. The great thing about a new album is it gives forums users something to talk about. Look how desperate we get in the wilderness (tee hee) periods: http://forums.neworderonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=1429.

Fotzepolitic wrote: Feck it.Some of our overseas friends like young Linus may not have seen these reviews so here yer go.I guess you can right click and save image to computer where you can open in a programme where they are easy to read.

Q magazine

Mojo

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Thanks for posting! First I read these and it has me very, very excited for the album. Not an original thought, but still...

The brazilian's biggest newspaper - Folha de São Paulo - rated "Music Complete" as "VG" (very good). Folha wrote "nothing new really, but it's pure New Order and that is enough". The following picture is not mine.

JG wrote: [albumimg]98[/albumimg]

Here's Dorian Lynskey's view in GQ, including......

"perhaps the tight security surrounding Music Complete.....is down to fear that Hooky might hear it and perform the whole thing before they did"

"Hook won't accept that this is NO's best album since their 1989 masterpiece Technique, but it is"

"Relentlessly vivid and dynamic"

GQ don't give ratings but it reads every bit as glowingly as the 4 star-ers above.

Starts from the bottom para of the left hand column.

THANKS

Linus Solanki wrote:

JG wrote: [albumimg]98[/albumimg]

Here's Dorian Lynskey's view in GQ, including......

"perhaps the tight security surrounding Music Complete.....is down to fear that Hooky might hear it and perform the whole thing before they did"

"Hook won't accept that this is NO's best album since their 1989 masterpiece Technique, but it is"

"Relentlessly vivid and dynamic"

GQ don't give ratings but it reads every bit as glowingly as the 4 star-ers above.

Starts from the bottom para of the left hand column.

THANKS

Thank you for thanking JG.

Tomorrow's evening I'll have an opportunity to listen to the new album, so if you are willing to get some hints on its sound etc. I can provide some informaton though I'm not a native so my english is not as vivid in describing as it (probably) should be in case of this record :)

JG wrote: [albumimg]98[/albumimg]

Here's Dorian Lynskey's view in GQ, including......

"perhaps the tight security surrounding Music Complete.....is down to fear that Hooky might hear it and perform the whole thing before they did"

"Hook won't accept that this is NO's best album since their 1989 masterpiece Technique, but it is"

"Relentlessly vivid and dynamic"

GQ don't give ratings but it reads every bit as glowingly as the 4 star-ers above.

Starts from the bottom para of the left hand column.

Great stuff.I liked the fact she's "always preferred the exuberant mess of New Order to the solemn precision of Joy Division" My thoughts exactly.Great to get back to some new fresh music .All we've had for years since WFTSC is Joy Division this Joy Division that blah blah blah fucking blah and Hooky being a whining cunt.Reissue after reissue after reissue.You can trace it back to 1995 in my opinion when Love Will Tear Us Apart was re released and then the Permanent compilation.Then in the late 90s the Heart And Soul box set came out then the Control film in 2007.The looking back thing has been almost constant ever since.Always found it odd that the last few years has been all this looking back when New Order used to be about moving forward, new sounds, new ideas.Oh dear i appear to have gone off on a rant.Sorry, it's been a long hard week.

Good rant Mr TwoSheds! Thanks

TheScotsman