Tutti Frutti Japanese 12"

My Tutti Frutti 12" from Japan (w/Takkyu Ishino remix) shipped this morning. Went to HMV Japan site to check on some other things and noticed that the 12" is now listed as DELETED and SOLD OUT. Glad I ordered one!

-Mike

Release date is 6/4/2016 on Amazon.co.jp.

When you'll get it, could you tell me/us if the download code includes the Takkyu mix?

Likewise, mine has shipped. I'll race you.

Should've ordered two. It just felt like something that'd be pretty limited.

Now what of that exclusive Japanese boxset...

steinomite wrote: My Tutti Frutti 12" from Japan (w/Takkyu Ishino remix) shipped this morning. Went to HMV Japan site to check on some other things and noticed that the 12" is now listed as DELETED and SOLD OUT. Glad I ordered one!

-Mike

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/productitemstock/stock/6789289

...there's still a few in stock, though they're running out.

Also, some other shops have them, though you have to figure out how to buy from them, which is not always easy.

My brother are spending his vacation in Japan right now and he got two copies - one for me and the another one for a mate. What a luck!

Took me 30 minutes to create an account, but finally I've ordered. Couldn't find a link to the box set

Chrisbaerchen wrote: Took me 30 minutes to create an account, but finally I've ordered. Couldn't find a link to the box set

At this stage, the box set is being exclusively sold at the Japanese concerts in May.

Some of us are hoping any leftovers make it to retail outlets or we'll be at the mercy of eBay re-sellers.

Even better, maybe some make it down to the Sydney gigs.

I opted for the CD Single: CDJapan

The mix better be good. It's going to cost me over $40 when all is said and done!

Andy wrote: I opted for the CD Single: CDJapan

The mix better be good. It's going to cost me over $40 when all is said and done!

Had forgotten it was revealed here.

Easy come, easy go...

Andy wrote:

Andy wrote: I opted for the CD Single: CDJapan

The mix better be good. It's going to cost me over $40 when all is said and done!

Had forgotten it was revealed here.

Easy come, easy go...

Yeah, it's not that good TBH. Although it reminds me of the KLF a little bit ...And I would dance to it. I didn't realise it was getting a CD single release. But at that price, I'm not falling over myself to own the thing. It's on Youtube as well as Soundcloud now.

Debaser wrote:

Andy wrote:

Andy wrote: I opted for the CD Single: CDJapan

The mix better be good. It's going to cost me over $40 when all is said and done!

Had forgotten it was revealed here.

Easy come, easy go...

Yeah, it's not that good TBH. Although it reminds me of the KLF a little bit ...And I would dance to it. I didn't realise it was getting a CD single release. But at that price, I'm not falling over myself to own the thing. It's on Youtube as well as Soundcloud now.

They don't usually stock vinyl. It may be an error on their site, but I'm OK if I end up with a 12".

NotAMod wrote: For the record (no pun intended) I've removed "SOLD OUT / DELETED" from the title of this thread because it was a tad misleading. Not intentionally I'm sure.

As of right now - 6th April 2016 - both Amazon Japan and HMV Japan have stock of this single. It's definitely not sold out or deleted.

Order 'em while you can folks.

Sorry folks for the misleading subject line, but it legitimately was listed as deleted on the HMV Japan site earlier this week. The site wouldn't allow further orders at the time. But yes, I see that it has since been restocked.

My copy, by the way, arrived in the mail today. It's quite nice. It was released on Mute proper, not their usual licensee, Traffic. It was manufactured in the EU for the Japanese market. It has its own unique catalog number: 12JMUTE542

There's a Discogs entry already for those that care. No hype sticker on the outside of the shrinkwrap. No download code.

-Mike

I've tried to register on HMV Japan but the page won't translate for me and I've got no idea how to progress. I managed to get the item in my basket but that was about it. I've given up for the time being.

Andy wrote: I opted for the CD Single: CDJapan

The mix better be good. It's going to cost me over $40 when all is said and done!

Strange description. "new order" is not mentioned.

There's a Discogs entry already for those that care. No hype sticker on the outside of the shrinkwrap. No download code.

No download code! Sad news but good for my money.

BazG wrote: I've tried to register on HMV Japan but the page won't translate for me and I've got no idea how to progress. I managed to get the item in my basket but that was about it. I've given up for the time being.

I was having problems using the site with the Chrome browser. Once I switched to Internet Explorer, it worked. Somewhat odd, since I usually have the opposite problem.

steinomite wrote:

I was having problems using the site with the Chrome browser. Once I switched to Internet Explorer, it worked. Somewhat odd, since I usually have the opposite problem.

Thanks. I've tried to use Internet Explorer, and it translates on the main page. I can see where to click to register as a new customer, but when the page changes it's all in Japanese again. *sigh*

Actually, I think I'm getting there, slowly but surely. Mainly by guess work. I can't believe the postage is more than the product itself. Looks like Amazon's cheaper actually. Only marginally though.

My 12" arrived today. Nice mix (I like a bit of acid, I do). Agree that it reminds me of the original 'Trance' KLF single versions.

Anyone know what the full tracklist is for the Japanese CD single with this mix on?

Hélène's Friend wrote:

There's a Discogs entry already for those that care. No hype sticker on the outside of the shrinkwrap. No download code.

No download code! Sad news but good for my money.

My 12" arrived today. There was a download code included with my copy on a small sticker at the bottom of the inner sleeve.

Mr Discography wrote: My 12" arrived today. Nice mix (I like a bit of acid, I do). Agree that it reminds me of the original 'Trance' KLF single versions.

Anyone know what the full tracklist is for the Japanese CD single with this mix on?

Isn't the only current physical release format this 12"?

Digital via Soundcloud and the Japanese DD bundle.

Hélène's Friend wrote:

Andy wrote: I opted for the CD Single: CDJapan

The mix better be good. It's going to cost me over $40 when all is said and done!

Strange description. "new order" is not mentioned.

No tracklisting either.

When you read the description further it seems to be implying this is a "by request only" item.

You just wonder if someone's got their wires crossed with the 12". No other site seems to reference this CD release.

depthcharge wrote:

No tracklisting either.

When you read the description further it seems to be implying this is a "by request only" item.

You just wonder if someone's got their wires crossed with the 12". No other site seems to reference this CD release.

Assuming the cd single is getting a separate release, the cd does include the Takkyu Ishino mix, according to http://trafficjpn.com/news/neworderlive/ (english translation from petersaville.info):

Wrapping Cloth “Furoshiki” Box Set (Cassette Album + Three CD Singles) To Be Sold Exclusively at the Venue of the Concert in Japan 25 May 2016 Contains: • Music Complete Cassette Album • Restless CD Single • Tutti Frutti CD Single (First appearance of Takkyu Ishino Remix on CD) • Singularity CD Single

Yesterday I received the 12". I tried to download the mp3 files from the code but it fails everytime. Anybody else have problems with downloads from the Japanese 12"?

indiearchivist wrote:

Assuming the cd single is getting a separate release, the cd does include the Takkyu Ishino mix, according to http://trafficjpn.com/news/neworderlive/ (english translation from petersaville.info):

I wonder if it will get a release outside of that box.

Doesn't appear to be on the radar of the other major Japanese sites.

nofotro wrote:

Hélène's Friend wrote:

There's a Discogs entry already for those that care. No hype sticker on the outside of the shrinkwrap. No download code.

No download code! Sad news but good for my money.

My 12" arrived today. There was a download code included with my copy on a small sticker at the bottom of the inner sleeve.

Mine got the code too. Didn't try to download with it yet.

Peter Who? wrote: Yesterday I received the 12". I tried to download the mp3 files from the code but it fails everytime. Anybody else have problems with downloads from the Japanese 12"?

I didn't have any trouble to download the files.

About the download, just two tracks (exactly as the 12") in two file formats: MP3 and FLAC.

Tutti Frutti - Extended 12" Mix 18.09 MB Tutti Frutti - Takkiyu Ishino Remix 18.10 MB (or all above mp3s zipped in one file 28.77 MB) Tutti Frutti - Extended 12" Mix (flac) 97.23 MB Tutti Frutti - Takkiyu Ishino Remix (flac) 89.49 MB

As suspected, 12" (not CDS) delivered: Konnichiwa

Strangely, even the packing slip describes it as a "CD".

Andy wrote: As suspected, 12" (not CDS) delivered: Konnichiwa

Strangely, even the packing slip describes it as a "CD".

Same thing here. My "CD" is 12" in diameter and is made of black vinyl.

Tracey wrote:

Andy wrote: As suspected, 12" (not CDS) delivered: Konnichiwa

Strangely, even the packing slip describes it as a "CD".

Same thing here. My "CD" is 12" in diameter and is made of black vinyl.

I posted a comment on the site to inform future purchasers.

Today, I received this email:

Hello,Thank you for your order.About NEODAI-11455 - Tutti Frutti -Takkyu Ishino Remix,it is a 12 inch lp, not compact disc as you said.This is the original page.http://tower.jp/item/4152431/Tutti-Frutti--Takkyu-Ishino-Remix%EF%BC%9C%E5%88%9D%E5%9B%9E%E7%94%9F%E7%94%A3%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%9B%A4%EF%BC%9EWe correct the description.http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEODAI-11455We are sorry about this time.Sincerely,Saeko Obihttp://www.cdjapan.co.jp/

Not sure why the "original page" is a Tower Records site, but do appreciate the apology.

I'm not sure how it all works out after postage costs - and that may depend on what postage option you chose, but it appears to me that Amazon JP and others were charging less than the basic 3660 Yen that CD Japan were charging. If that's the case, I would be tempted to request a partial refund. Otherwise they have misled and overcharged you. They actually sent you a link to Tower Records where the price is cheaper?!? Kerrazee. Oh and HMV's "member price" is Y 1836. That's about half the price of CD Japan. Just my two penneth worth...

Andy wrote:

Tracey wrote:

Andy wrote: As suspected, 12" (not CDS) delivered: Konnichiwa

Strangely, even the packing slip describes it as a "CD".

Same thing here. My "CD" is 12" in diameter and is made of black vinyl.

I posted a comment on the site to inform future purchasers.

Today, I received this email:

Hello,Thank you for your order.About NEODAI-11455 - Tutti Frutti -Takkyu Ishino Remix,it is a 12 inch lp, not compact disc as you said.This is the original page.http://tower.jp/item/4152431/Tutti-Frutti--Takkyu-Ishino-Remix%EF%BC%9C%E5%88%9D%E5%9B%9E%E7%94%9F%E7%94%A3%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%9B%A4%EF%BC%9EWe correct the description.http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEODAI-11455We are sorry about this time.Sincerely,Saeko Obihttp://www.cdjapan.co.jp/

Not sure why the "original page" is a Tower Records site, but do appreciate the apology.

I'm very disappointed.

I did the order when the single was still listed as a CD. When it arrived - surprise! - another 12 inch vinyl for my collection. Strangely, in the packing slip / receipt, is written "Format: CDA"! Evidently I will ask them a refund.

I can't find an original Tutti Frutti thread so this'll have to do. I was listening to Peanut Butter (Larry Levan mix) by Gwen Guthrie today and I started thinking about how NO have used other tracks as a template before.

Tutti Frutti came to mind here. The first few seconds of echo-y intro, the percussion, the groove. Also the end of the track- the bass pluck bit and overall production from 5.30 onwards. It feels like it inspired the Tutti Frutti vibe. It has a food name in common too.

Anyone agree/disagree/give a damn?

[Also the "I'm in love with you, want you to love me too" vocal should be instantly recognisable to a generation of 90s ravers]

*EDIT* I also wonder if Information Society's Running (Nest mix) may have influenced World. Try jumping in around 2.55 .

Nicely spotted! :D

There's some definite, good similarities there.

i'm in the process of getting all the colored vinyl 12 inches now.

just got this one from japan, they're still out there, and not that expensive.

later -1

Is the JPN release purple vinyl?

My yellow 12” gets a lot of play at the moment, my 18 month old loves putting records on and this is one of her favourites

I didn't know that the Japanese Tutti Frutti 12" was coloured vinyl. Never opened mine up!

Andy wrote: I didn't know that the Japanese Tutti Frutti 12" was coloured vinyl. Never opened mine up!

No, it's standard black vinyl.

50poundnote wrote:

Andy wrote: I didn't know that the Japanese Tutti Frutti 12" was coloured vinyl. Never opened mine up!

No, it's standard black vinyl.

correct, i was getting it mixed up with the purple vinyl for singularity.

later -1

Debaser wrote: I can't find an original Tutti Frutti thread so this'll have to do. I was listening to Peanut Butter (Larry Levan mix) by Gwen Guthrie today and I started thinking about how NO have used other tracks as a template before.

Tutti Frutti came to mind here. The first few seconds of echo-y intro, the percussion, the groove. Also the end of the track- the bass pluck bit and overall production from 5.30 onwards. It feels like it inspired the Tutti Frutti vibe. It has a food name in common too.

Anyone agree/disagree/give a damn?

[Also the "I'm in love with you, want you to love me too" vocal should be instantly recognisable to a generation of 90s ravers]

*EDIT* I also wonder if Information Society's Running (Nest mix) may have influenced World. Try jumping in around 2.55 .

Is this the wrong thread? Yep, but in light of inspiration/template talk above (BTW both the above tracks came out in 1986), someone posted something on the "New Order" (fan) FB page. A John Robie produced track described as inspiration for Shellshock. And I think they might be right. From 1982 this time:

C-Bank - One More Shot

^ Yes, a bit Shellshock ish that track. Hooky may have had a point though in his Substance book when he said Robie was responsible for the end of New Order’s innovative earlier stuff. He influenced NO to work in a more standard verse/chorus way rather than the more freeform way on earlier tracks like EGG.

Debaser wrote:

Debaser wrote: I can't find an original Tutti Frutti thread so this'll have to do. I was listening to Peanut Butter (Larry Levan mix) by Gwen Guthrie today and I started thinking about how NO have used other tracks as a template before.

Tutti Frutti came to mind here. The first few seconds of echo-y intro, the percussion, the groove. Also the end of the track- the bass pluck bit and overall production from 5.30 onwards. It feels like it inspired the Tutti Frutti vibe. It has a food name in common too.

Anyone agree/disagree/give a damn?

[Also the "I'm in love with you, want you to love me too" vocal should be instantly recognisable to a generation of 90s ravers]

*EDIT* I also wonder if Information Society's Running (Nest mix) may have influenced World. Try jumping in around 2.55 .

Is this the wrong thread? Yep, but in light of inspiration/template talk above (BTW both the above tracks came out in 1986), someone posted something on the "New Order" (fan) FB page. A John Robie produced track described as inspiration for Shellshock. And I think they might be right. From 1982 this time:

C-Bank - One More Shot

Yes. The story goes that the band created a more atmospheric/ambient piece, thinking they were contributing to the score of the film Pretty in Pink. The director rejected it, having hoped for something more song-based. The band then had a much shorter window to come up with something, so Robie played a larger part in Shellshock's creation due to the impending deadline.

If you've ever seen the film, you'll notice that Shellshock is actually only featured for a few fleeting seconds when a radio is being tuned to a station. Ironically, Elegia and Thieves Like Us Instrumental receieved far more prominent placement.

Shellshock seems to divide some fans. Some seem to really detest it. I loved the drama and manic edits and drum programming at the time, but am not sure it has aged as well. At the time of Substance, I was nearly as annoyed by the edit of it as I was of The Perfect Kiss. Always liked the line "The love that comes from pain destroys the very same." from the missing verse, though I'm not sure how to interpret it.

I love Shellshock. It was one of the first tracks that I really played to death when I first got into the band.

For years I never even knew about that 'missing verse'. I only ever had the edit on Substance, the 7" and the video edit. I never had the 12" version. The first time I heard the extra verse was when I decided to buy the Pretty In Pink soundtrack, and the version on that had the verse. I almost dropped my bacon sarnie when I heard Bernard start singing 'new' lyrics.

I didn't get to hear the full 12" until (probably) Recycle.

Although I'd have preferred that they hadn't edited any of the mixes on Substance, I do think that the 12"s of both Shellshock and Sub-Culture are a tad long and repetitive. Especially Shellshock (how many times do they repeat the chorus at the end?!! Crikey!).

My favourite version of Shellshock is actually that Pretty In Pink version. It includes the extra verse like the 12" does, but doesn't go on and on and on.

perspexorange wrote: I love Shellshock. It was one of the first tracks that I really played to death when I first got into the band.

For years I never even knew about that 'missing verse'. I only ever had the edit on Substance, the 7" and the video edit. I never had the 12" version. The first time I heard the extra verse was when I decided to buy the Pretty In Pink soundtrack, and the version on that had the verse. I almost dropped my bacon sarnie when I heard Bernard start singing 'new' lyrics.

I didn't get to hear the full 12" until (probably) Recycle.

Although I'd have preferred that they hadn't edited any of the mixes on Substance, I do think that the 12"s of both Shellshock and Sub-Culture are a tad long and repetitive. Especially Shellshock (how many times do they repeat the chorus at the end?!! Crikey!).

My favourite version of Shellshock is actually that Pretty In Pink version. It includes the extra verse like the 12" does, but doesn't go on and on and on.

I can understand that. The soundtrack "version" is essentially the standard track, everything else being a remix and/or edit.

I don't mind the Extended version (or even Shellcock) as I saw the track as akin to Blue Monday and Confusion in that it incorporated elements of a different style into their songwriting. The production and drum breaks being their (and, of course, Robie's) take on Hip-Hop. No different then they did later with the acid-house influenced Fine Time.

Back in the day, I always wished that a New Order single release would always consist of:

1. An extended mix (preferably by the group or at least in the spirit of the original)
2. A previously unreleased b-side
3. An instrumental or dub of the a-side
4. A clutch of remixes on an additional 12" or CD-single

Andy wrote: Back in the day, I always wished that a New Order single release would always consist of:

1. An extended mix (preferably by the group or at least in the spirit of the original)
2. A previously unreleased b-side
3. An instrumental or dub of the a-side
4. A clutch of remixes on an additional 12" or CD-single

The last one being Here to Stay?... 20 long years ago