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Slicing Up Eyeballs are running one of their votes. They’ve already done bands like Depeche Mode, The Cure and R.E.M. and have now turned their attention to New Order.
Get voting:
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2017/11/07/vote-for-your-favorite-new-order-songs/
Just in case anyone was interested, here are the 25 I picked (in alphabetic order):
It pained me to have to miss out tracks like chosen Time, Dreams Never End, Mesh, Cries & Whispers, Restless, Guilt Is A Useless Emotion, Someone Like You, Primitive Notion, Your Silent Face, Ecstasy plus probably quite a few others. But you’re limited to just 25.
Quite good fun.
I love a pointless list. Here's mine.
1963 Academic As It Is When It Was BLT Blue Monday Ceremony Dream Attack Elegia Face Up Guilty Partner Nothing But A Fool Plastic Primitive Notion Round & Round Shellshock Special Temptation TPK The Village Thieves Like Us This Time of Night True Faith Vanishing Point Way Of Life World
It seems wrong to leave out Love Vigilantes, Age of Consent, Run, Everything's Gone Green and All Day Long, plus about 25 others.
Nice choices.
I’ll be absolutely shocked if, when the final results are in, the top 3 aren’t Ceremony, Temptation and TPK, in no particular order. I’m guessing Blue Monday, True Faith, BLT and Regret will also help to fill out the top ten. I really can’t predict what other tracks would make the top ten.
Looking through your list, I’m kind of disgusted in myself that I left out Shellshock and Blue Monday. There’s just too many brilliant songs. Far more than 25.
This has been a wonderful distraction from all the papers I need to be writing. Once I got my first fifteen picks, though, the selection process started to get a bit tricky. After I got through my major favorites, it took a lot more deliberation.
Anyway, I wound up with the following twenty-five:
586 Age of Consent All Day Long Angel Dust Bizarre Love Triangle Ceremony Chosen Time Dream Attack Dreams Never End Elegia Leave Me Alone Lonesome Tonight Paradise Procession Senses Sunrise Temptation The Him The Perfect Kiss The Village Thieves Like Us This Time of Night Vanishing Point Waiting for the Sirens' Call Your Silent Face
There are, of course, many other songs I wish could fit on this list.
Ultimately, this was a fun, little activity. Thanks for pointing us toward the poll, Perspexorange.
No problem. :-) I hope others join in; will be nice to see what the consensus of opinion is amongst as many fans as possible.
Again, great choices. I really should’ve included Chosen Time on my list too.
Been having a think about what other tracks I think will make it into the top ten when the results come in. As well as the seven I mentioned above (Ceremony, Temptation, TPK, BM, TF, BLT & Regret), I’m gonna go with Thieves Like Us and 1963. The last one is even more tricky. Crystal, perhaps.
I’m hoping that my personal favourite, Dream Attack, gets a good showing.
Round and Round True Faith BLT Ceremony Temptation TPK Sunrise Thieves Like Us, don't they Academic Age of Cuntsent Regret 1963 Dream Attack Run Dreams Never End Primitive Notion Crystal Special Blue Monday TBTHOG All the way Guilty Partner Who's Joe EGG Wannabe
Hmm...how to approach this? I mean, just due to omnipresence it wouldn't bug me if I never heard a track like Blue Monday again but pretty sure I can't leave it off a top 25 list. Has to come in at #1 surely?
I think it kind of depends on who the majority of voters are.
If it's mostly casual fans (i.e. those that only really know, say, 10-20 tracks) voting, Blue Monday will probably come in at number 1.
If there are a large number of keen fans (like us) voting, I'd say it'll be a little further down the order (pardon the pun), being behind the likes of Temptation, TPK and Ceremony. If you look at the four of us who have shared our votes here, it'a a 50:50 split on including BM or not. Yet all four of us have voted for the above three tracks.
I'd be surprised if BM figures lower than number 5 either way. SlicingUpEyeballs is a fairly dedicated website, so we should expect a reasonably high turnout of NO fans. I hope so - I think it will be far more interesting if this is the case. I'd hate to think of the votes being, on the whole, cast by people who only know BM, TF, BLT, Regret, WIM & Crystal, and thereby only vote for these tracks (you don't have to vote for as many as 25 songs).
Blue Monnday wasn't in my top 25 picks. There were a number of album cuts, like This Time Of Night, Vanishing point, and Special.
I have to stop talking about the Spice Girls. Just stop right now, thank you very much. I'm sick to death of Blue Monday but I can't argue it's technically 'bad'. If I could take a time machine and go back to 1989 to tell my younger self I'd still rate 'Round and Round' in 2017, he'd be very surprised. Because he just saw a fucking time machine.
I missed Round & Round and Fine Time off my list, just simply because I had Mr Disco, Vanishing Point & Dream Attack on there and didn’t want a Technique overload. I could, very easily, have included all 9 tracks from that LP on my list though. 😀
Blue Monday is possibly the most influential track of the 80s and I truly love it. But, I agree, I’ve heard it a little too often.
perspexorange wrote: I agree.
That's the second time I've heard that in 35 years. However the most influential track of all time is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDx1uHpY\_S8 . That picture is crying out for the caption: 'They were bowled over when he played them 'One True Passion'.' Technique is still my favourite but I always thought the second side suffered from excess padding. My mother (so it must be true) said Mr Disco was unneccesarily strteched out. I remember because it is the only interesting, worthwhile thing she has ever said in my entire life. There's usually a little indie snobbery in these lists. The bog standard listener will go for Blue Snoozeday; the hard core fan for Homage. No one gives a fuck anyway. 'From their emergence out of the ashes of Joy Division...' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu18d5fP7Ic
Think I was the last person who agreed with you, also, Michael. A very worrying turn of events.
‘Excessive padding’?.. Sacrilege. I couldn’t disagree more. See, there we go... the balance is redressed. All is now right in the world. 😀
I'm actually amazed NewOrder have only written 157 songs in what 37 years?
That's about 4 songs a year.
Pretty sure I could knock out a song every three months or so and hold down my day job.....
Sooner than you think - -
Michael Monkhouse wrote:
perspexorange wrote: I agree.
That's the second time I've heard that in 35 years. However the most influential track of all time is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDx1uHpY\_S8 . That picture is crying out for the caption: 'They were bowled over when he played them 'One True Passion'.' Technique is still my favourite but I always thought the second side suffered from excess padding. My mother (so it must be true) said Mr Disco was unneccesarily strteched out. I remember because it is the only interesting, worthwhile thing she has ever said in my entire life. There's usually a little indie snobbery in these lists. The bog standard listener will go for Blue Snoozeday; the hard core fan for Homage. No one gives a fuck anyway. 'From their emergence out of the ashes of Joy Division...' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu18d5fP7Ic
You lost me with "My mother...strteched (sic) out."
I think Guilty Partner and Fine Time were the only Technique tracks that didn't make my list.
Blue Monday probably deserved my vote but I figured it would get more than enough votes from others.
Col72 wrote: I'm actually amazed NewOrder have only written 157 songs in what 37 years?
That's about 4 songs a year.
Pretty sure I could knock out a song every three months or so and hold down my day job.....
Sooner than you think - -
Even less impressive when you realise that they've included some remixes in there (Shellcock, Perfect Pit etc.).
New Order, eh? Always leave the fans wanting more...
Col72 wrote:
Pretty sure I could knock out a song every three months or so and hold down my day job.....
I knock out about 4 a day. New Order were never overly productive. After all this time I'm surprised how hard it was to cum up with 25 trax.
Phew that was difficult when you see them all written down. I had no tracks from GR and Movement. Shows that although GR is a good solid album lacks the classics ( apart Crystal but that never made my list either) WFTSC although a patchy album gets 2 entries. Could have put all of PC&L and Technique, but didn’t.
Leave me alone Your silent face Age of consent Face up Perfect kiss Broken promise BLT World singularity Restless WFTSC Turn Academic Mr disco VAnishing point All the way Dream attack Cries and whispers Lonesome tonight Thieves like us Temptation Blue Monday EGG Ceremony Weirdo
Michael Monkhouse wrote:
Col72 wrote:
Pretty sure I could knock out a song every three months or so and hold down my day job.....
I knock out about 4 a day. New Order were never overly productive. After all this time I'm surprised how hard it was to cum up with 25 trax.
I agree......
Despite owning everything created by NewOrder in multiple formats, I got to about 15 then found myself liking songs just to get the count up to 25......
NewOrder songs are like chasing girls in your youth.....Its the hope and anticipation of the song, not the listening which is more akin to the children and divorces that inevitably come later.....
Face up.......
perspexorange wrote: Slicing Up Eyeballs are running one of their votes. They’ve already done bands like Depeche Mode, The Cure and R.E.M. and have now turned their attention to New Order. Get voting: http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2017/11/07/vote-for-your-favorite-new-order-songs/
Interesting looking at the ones they've already done. I can't believe that the REM No.1 was Fall On Me. I mean yeah I know it, but honestly I barely even like it (could it be one of those tunes that everyone voted for but it's no one's favourite?). One of the joint No. 2s: Radio Free Europe is much better IMHO, and always makes me think "they were listening to Joy Division". They're just about to re-release Automatic For the People as a deluxe fancy thing. It must be what, 25 years old now??
I don't listen to the Smiths much these days, mostly because despite what my teenage self might say, Morrissey sounds a bit miserable. But looking through the list I'm reminded of the overall high quality of their stuff.
As for Depeche Mode, I have never described myself as a fan of the band, but looking back, I have owned at least four of their albums at some point in my life (Some Great Reward, Black Celebration, Music For the Masses, Violator) which is almost as many decent albums as NO have made. Looking through their tracks I must admit I'm quite fond of...well, all of the top 5 along with Stripped, Behind The Wheel, Personal Jesus. In fact pretty much all of the top 14. Loved the grainy B&W Anton Corbjin videos for tracks like Never Let Me Down again in 1987, nice moody vibes. The bluesy I Feel You, and Walking in My Shoes are probably the last things by them that I liked which leads me to think that Songs of Faith & Devotion may have been their last good LP. Can any Depeche Mode fans confirm?
As for NO, I kinda went through the albums chronologically, and then the stand-alone singles. I suspect there are a couple on my list that people may baulk at. Incidentally I think splitting Run and Run2 will split the vote on what should be a high ranking track. And it's a bad idea.
Age Of Consent YSF
Love Vig TPK 12" Sub Culture Elegia
BLT All Day Long
Run Vanishing Point Dream Attack All The Way
Regret
Crystal
WFTSC
Singularity Nothing But a Fool Academic
Ceremony EGG Temptation Blue Monday True Faith 1963 TBTHOG
Debaser wrote: As for Depeche Mode, I have never described myself as a fan of the band, but looking back, I have owned at least four of their albums at some point in my life (Some Great Reward, Black Celebration, Music For the Masses, Violator) which is almost as many decent albums as NO have made. Looking through their tracks I must admit I'm quite fond of...well, all of the top 5 along with Stripped, Behind The Wheel, Personal Jesus. In fact pretty much all of the top 14. Loved the grainy B&W Anton Corbjin videos for tracks like Never Let Me Down again in 1987, nice moody vibes. The bluesy I Feel You, and Walking in My Shoes are probably the last things by them that I liked which leads me to think that Songs of Faith & Devotion may have been their last good LP. Can any Depeche Mode fans confirm?
Songs of Faith and Devotion certainly was their pinacle, but Ultra (the next one) is, imho, among their best; Playing the Angel and Spirit are very good too. This makes 3 good albums after Songs of Faith, and 3 bad.
Sorry for drifting out of topic.
Choosing the 25 best NO songs is a pain... Not quite sure about my selection yet, will have to think about it a little longer.
Can’t remember what the final top ten was for R.E.M. but if Pretty Persuasion, So. Central Rain and Boxcars weren’t in there, I’d be annoyed. Anything after the IRS years with R.E.M. kind of left me a little cold. I think they became a little too mainstream. Green has some good moments though.
I’m a massive Depeche fan and would state that anything after SOFAD really isn’t worth listening to. There’s a handful of reasonable tracks on the remaining 6 albums but, to be honest, I’m struggling to name them. ‘Wrong’ is great. That’s probably the only really decent thing they’ve done in over twenty years. All IMHO, of course.
I eventually ended up with a list... Still not 100% sure of my choice. No songs from Movement although some were very decent (Dreams Never End, Chosen Time...) but the singles from this period are more interesting to my ears. No songs from Lost Sirens although Californian Grass and Recoil are decent too.
Strange that Temptation and Temptation 98 are proposed as different tracks, while Temptation 87 from Substance isn't. IMO it's a mistake to consider remixes and alternate versions as different songs. It can only dilute the votes.
In chronological order:
Ceremony EGG Temptation
Age of Consent Your Silent Face Leave Me Alone Blue Monday Thieves Like Us Lonesome Tonight
The Perfect Kiss Love Vigilantes
BLT All Day Long True Faith
All the Way Round & Round Vanishing Point Dream Attack
Regret Special
Crystal Here to Stay
Turn
Academic Singularity
