We've got a 20 minute version of Out Of Control

I can't believe it's 20 years since Out Of Control, and the album it was taken from.

Anyway, I don't know how serious Mr Simons is about putting that thing on the forthcoming Surrender box set ("we used to just make them for fun"), but I hope he is. Bernard has spoken in the past about all the guitar parts that he wrote for that song, only to see them chopped up in the released version of OOC.

It'd be nice to hear more of Bernard's "original" version of the song.

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the sasha club mix is 11 minutes, and the sasha instrumental is 13 minutes. you can get them on vinyl, or the japanese cd-single.

i figure, this 20 minute version is probably like playing those 2 versions in a row, or similar.

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In this interim all things NewOrder seem far away, and the wishful wistful thinking and hoping for more has begun to diminish ,but not the gratitude that our heroes shunned spandex, and big hair and high pitched whiney crap songs like so many of those kinds of bands wallow in still. Now our heroes are giving us ample time to explore the rest of the world of music . While slogging thru the old prog and esoterica and arcane with no real strong loving feeling for those artsy fartsy times, i found that an old favorite, the Residents had been very busy, 30 more albums worth busy, and much of their later work is amazing ,in both a weird way and in a sane way , and very very wonderful . And, NO has always had a great work ethic including making new songs that we like , and they tour often with awesome shows, and they dearly love us and they probably have a contract to give us a lot more love , but hopefully lots of songs too . So all is well, and for a few months i must focus upon a most interesting band, the Residents .And in a few months maybe all our dreams about NO will come true .

negative1 wrote: the sasha club mix is 11 minutes, and the sasha instrumental is 13 minutes. you can get them on vinyl, or the japanese cd-single.

i figure, this 20 minute version is probably like playing those 2 versions in a row, or similar.

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I think it's more likely to be their own version.

Debaser wrote: I don't know how serious Mr Simons is about putting that thing on the forthcoming Surrender box set ("we used to just make them for fun"), but I hope he is.

It turns out he is serious.

Debaser wrote: Bernard has spoken in the past about all the guitar parts that he wrote for that song, only to see them chopped up in the released version of OOC. It'd be nice to hear more of Bernard's "original" version of the song.

No luck here I'm afraid. . Was hoping for a Demo version. Seems like a missed opportunity to me, especially as The Chems are both NO fans. Fingers crossed we hear a bit more of Bernard's guitars in the long mix.

The Chems announced details of the Surrender Box Set today, although it won't be released until October. Out Of Control - the long version is called: "Out Of Control (21 Minutes Of Madness Mix)". The title presumably inspired by Coldcut. Website link.

looks like they're leaving some of the other mixes of the song on there too. that's odd.

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The box set has the Sasha remix of OOC as well as the 21 minutes mix

Disc 1 “ Surrender"

Music: Response Under The Influence Out Of Control Orange Wedge Let Forever Be The Sunshine Underground Asleep From Day Got Glint? Hey Boy Hey Girl Surrender Dream On

Disc 2 - The Secret Psychedelic Mixes

Hey Boy Hey Girl Let Forever Be Out Of Control (21 Minutes Of Madness Mix) Flashback Dream On

Disc 3 B sides and Remixes as curated by The Chemical Brothers

Flash back Scale The Diamond Sky Studio K Power Move Enjoyed Electronic Battle Weapon 4 Out Of Control (Sasha Club Mix) Music: Response (Gentleman Thief Mix) Music: Response (Futureshock Main Response) Hey Boy Hey Girl (Soulwax Remix)

DVD:

Promo videos:

1. Hey Boy Hey Girl

2. Let Forever Be

3. Out Of Control

Glastonbury Festival 2000:

1. Hey Boy Hey Girl

2. Music Response

3. Block Rockin' Beats

4. Song To The Siren

5. Under The Influence

6. Leave Home

7. The Private Psychedelic Reel

• 28-page book with new essay by John Savage

4X Kate Gibb art prints

The Chemicals website isn't working properly at the moment so no news on pricing but I'm guessing it won't come cheap: I already have the signed Underworld box set pre-ordered for October and that wasn't cheap either, so I'll probably wait until closer to then before I get too excited about this.

Ken Doherty wrote: The Chemicals website isn't working properly at the moment so no news on pricing but I'm guessing it won't come cheap.

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I wouldn't be surprised if most of the audio ends up on Spotify/YouTube pretty quickly, like with NO's Movement. If people want to own one or two tracks, they will probably be "findable" on DL leak sites...

Debaser wrote:

Ken Doherty wrote: The Chemicals website isn't working properly at the moment so no news on pricing but I'm guessing it won't come cheap.

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I wouldn't be surprised if most of the audio ends up on Spotify/YouTube pretty quickly, like with NO's Movement. If people want to own one or two tracks, they will probably be "findable" on DL leak sites...

Cheers - that comes out 2 days after my birthday so I might be tempted to treat myself (if copies are still available)

OOC is enough for a lifetime. Underworld's 8 Ball the same . Karl and Eno have some cool songs but the Chem Bros and Underworld best ofs were only ok

Video remastered and uploaded today (even though it's not a new YT upload page). Up to 4K in the settings if your computer can handle it. Rosario looks so young here.

Great stuff! Thanks for this.

Bloody love that track.

Will definitely be getting the reissue.

New Avalanches remix of OOC on the way:

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*EDIT* The release date of the Box Set has been pushed back to 22nd of November. Whether that means we'll have to wait until then to hear the 21 Minutes of Madness version of OOC, I'm not sure. That track is listed under the "Secret Psychedelic Mixes". One of the other mixes under that banner - Hey Boy Hey Girl (The Secret Psychedelic Mix) was put on youtube today as part of the promotional push...

Debaser wrote: New Avalanches remix of OOC on the way:

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that sounds totally watered down, and mellow.

sure it's not the whole thing. but if thats a sample of it, no thanks.

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The Sasha mix kicked butt and was only on vinyl originally. They were making better music outside of their regular bands at this point. The Primal Scream solo was cumpared to Unknown Pleasures.

It's unclear at the moment whether the Avalanches remix will feature in the box set (or maybe it will get a stand alone 12" release?) Speaking of which, here's news about the Chems own 21 Minutes Of Madness mix:

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Preview clips

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and

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Cheers for the previews! I picked this up today (I got 1143/1999) but won't get a chance to play it until Tomorrow afternoon

Christ those clips are noisy

Came to my attention I haven’t listened to Surrender in years. Or at least the whole album.Kind of remember thinking Dig Your Own Hole was a better album but will have to give both another spin.Think I remember Dig Your Own Hole as being more my favourite because it has the fantastic and incredible Private Psychedelic Reel on.

I do remember buying Surrender when it was released though and tracks Like Music:Response , Hey Boy Hey Girl and Out Of Control. Was listening to 6Music at work the other day and Hey Boy Hey Girl was playing and a work colleague in his 20s said to me what’s that shit you’re playing ? It’s awful! Sigh, the youth of today.

I remember really liking also from the album Asleep From Day.

Never was massively convinced by Out Of Control. For me,the one with Noel Gallagher, Let Forever Be was a better collaboration, sorry! Loved the video too.

Looking at the CD now, the guy from Mercury Rev sings on the final track? Don’t remember that at all. Will have to give the album a listen now.

I don't think there are any more Bernard-y bits in this than the original. Just more FX and dubby bits. In fact I think there's less of his guitars. Towards the end it seems Gillespie is easier to make out. Or maybe I'm just listening harder. Around 17 mins I wondered if Patrick Cowley's mix of I Feel Love may have been getting a nod. Anyway here it is:

excellent. i'm digging it.

nice to have it out now.

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Not much to look at, but here's pics of the record

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I quite like that the record store stickered it with "Reserved for "

Don’t think anyone has posted this b4?(forum search didn’t return anything) The farmageddon mix is on the new Sean the sheep movie.

I got the boxset last week and have not had a chance to listen to all of it yet, but I can't say I was that impressed with the 21 minute mix of OOC: unlike the Patrick Cowley remix of I Feel Love, this just seemed like an endurance test after 10 minutes. I can see why the master tapes of it have been sat on a shelf for the last 20 years.

The Box Set (audio) has leaked on the interwebs incidentally. Meanwhile something that didn't end up on the box set is out on Friday:

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Well they've tried to do something different. But yeah it's weird. The Avalanches Surrender To Love Mix

*EDIT* Oh there's a "visualiser" video now courtesy of Kate Gibb who designed the single artwork (I think she's the Chems equivalent of Saville). It seems this is an edit and a longer version will appear "in the future". I could imagine the track from about 2.32 onwards working well at an Ibiza outdoor event or at a DJ set at a summer music festival. However it would perhaps appeal to house/pop fans more than to NO or Chems fans.

NotAMod wrote:

On a side note, I remember being chuffed getting my hands on this promo CDr single some years ago. The definitive Out Of Control single including the 12" Sasha mixes, which were only available on a super-rare Japanese CD single at that time. 10-12 minutes apiece.

I had the japanese CD-single at the time, it wasn't that hard to find back then. But obviously harder since that time.

I do notice it's missing a Sasha Radio Edit, so i still have to track that down. It is on other promos though.

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Caught The Chemical Brothers live last night at Birmingham Arena.First time i've seen them live and finally ! Great show and the arena was bopping and rocking, a great party down at the front.Some of the impact of the visuals was lost on me as i'd watched the tv broadcast of their Glastonbury gig last summer but some of it was entirely new to me.

Loved the roman stained glass window images stuff accompanying Private Psychedelic Reel.Great way to end the show.Kind of like the entire story of religion/the world/ good versus evil all wrapped and told through stained glass windows with a euphoric soundtrack.Wow.Gotta love Tom & Ed.

Fotz wrote: Let Forever Be was a better collaboration

What do you call a cross between Tomorrow Never Knows and One Direction?

☝️ Quick recap: The Chems had their own "21 Minutes of Madness" mix of OOC which had (allegedly) been sitting unreleased for 20 years since its original release. They put it out on a Ltd white label 12" last year and in the box set re-release of their Surrender album (20th Anniversary).

But they also comissioned the Avalanches to re-work OOC for Record Store Day 2020. They posted an edit of this version on YouTube. But if you wanted to hear the full 11 min re-work you had to buy the RSD vinyl. Then of course, RSD '20 got cancelled because: pandemic.

So the RSD people announced a series of "drop dates" for all that unreleased stock - at the end of Aug, Sep and Oct. It seems the OOC thing was released in August. [[TWITTER]1299369581618884609[/TWITTER]

And about a month ago a YouTuber ripped the vinyl and uploaded it.

Tl;dr? Here's the 11 minute "Surrender to Love" version of OOC. First three minutes feature other Chems tracks:

I kinda like it on its own terms. It's a trip all by itself. Not better than the original but different and creative. Less spoken word overdubs from Ed Simons and the random bird who does "what the fuck she wants" would have been better. I could imagine this working at a festival or during a "sun coming up" moment in the morning at an Ibiza club.

Debaser wrote:

Tl;dr? Here's the 11 minute "Surrender to Love" version of OOC. First three minutes feature other Chems tracks:

I kinda like it on its own terms. It's a trip all by itself. Not better than the original but different and creative. Less spoken word overdubs from Ed Simons and the random bird who does "what the f*ck she wants" would have been better. I could imagine this working at a festival or during a "sun coming up" moment in the morning at an Ibiza club.

this 'remix' sucks all the energy out of the song.

avoid.

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just ordered the vinyl 12 inch version.

and also getting the deluxe boxset because its very cheap in the US now.

already heard the tracks. but its good to have it for the collection.

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Got the deluxe boxset of surrender.

And ordered the promo edit of out of control.

so a few more additions to the collection.

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NotAMod wrote:

On a side note, I remember being chuffed getting my hands on this promo CDr single some years ago. The definitive Out Of Control single including the 12" Sasha mixes, which were only available on a super-rare Japanese CD single at that time. 10-12 minutes apiece.

I don't have that one, but in between the japanese release, and the single edit promo, i'm good.

here's the sasha remix edit: https://www.sendspace.com/file/ayyou4

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