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∑(No,12k,Lg,17Mif) New Order + Liam Gillick: So it goes.. is released on July 12th

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The Japanese One wrote: That was also the day part of the show was live broadcasted on Sky TV or something IIRC.

Then I hope they fix the awful synth mistake during the segue from Bizarre Love Triangle to Vanishing Point. A member of the synth orchestra is playing a sound patch from BLT with the modulation wheel all the way up, and it's really loud during the whole intro of Vanishing Point, until either he/she catches the mistake and switches over to the correct sound, or someone at the mixing desk simply turns their volume down.

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Sage_ wrote: Next track is out

thanks, but the link doesn't work currently.

later -1

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Got my download first thing and it sounds great, hearing them play the rarer stuff live is a real treat. I must admit, though, that if I didn't know the structure of the gig with all those youths stood in them boxes at the back I'm not sure it would stand out as anything other than a really great live album. I wasn't there but I expected something a little more electronically orchestral, perhaps.

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They've put the whole thing on Spotify already. I don't know why they don't wait a couple of months and try to shift some units... Doesn't sound like they've done too much vocal fixing.

I must admit the physical product does look nice here:

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My copy was delivered today. Nice item. Sturdy outer sleeve/box. Great pics in the book, well it’s more like a big 12 x 12 pamphlet really.

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Amazon said they didn’t receive the CD yet. So nothing for me.

But I do have Spotify and the concert sounds amazing. Great mixing, and even brought some sounds to life that were to low on the you tube version. And fixed the vocals on Shellshock. And fixed the BLT and vanishing point blending part. I even made a playlist that puts the last 3 songs back into the show instead of the end of the show we’re they sound like they don’t belong.

Finally soundboard recordings of Disorder & Decades. I’m very satisfied with this concert. Good job.

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Jim wrote: fixed the vocals on Shellshock. And fixed the BLT and vanishing point blending part.

Very, very glad to hear this!

Ordered both the vinyl and CD through Music Glue in the U.S. Due to ship today, but no confirmation email yet.

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Amazon let me down but my Recordstore copy was waiting for me when I got in.

Just had my first run through and it's fucking brilliant - so many highlights - I felt like I was back in Granada.

What a fucking band. Nothing to touch them.

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Overall a good listen, one minor gripe, i'm a little disappointed by the snare sound! I still think this should have been a video rather than audio only release but still very pleased to have it. Glad these gigs have been documented, definitely one of my NO highlights.

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Here is a review of the tracks played at a few different shows to encompass all the songs during the shows.

01 Times Change (Live at MIF)

a rather slow instrumental breakbeat track, rather boring and not very inspiring.

02 Who's Joe (Live at MIF)

there's a reason why new order doesn't play these types of tracks very often. because no one really wants to hear this type of midtempo rocker from the latter albums. very standard fare.

03 Dream Attack (Live at MIF)

another slow track, that continues in the same nameless, faceless genre. trying to remember where its from, but since its not memorable, it doesn't really strike any chords. bernards voice is really off on it also.

04 Disorder (Live at MIF)

the first of the joy division tracks. oddly enough, i don't care for them, but its the first sign of energy from the band, so its decent.

05 Ultraviolence (Live at MIF)

now we move onto an actual classic, and interesting song. a rather cool rendition of it, full of rocky guitars, offkilter drums, and some presence finally from bernards voice.

06 In A Lonely Place (Live at MIF)

another nice and moody track, sounds great, but again, not the liveliest track.

07 All Day Long (Live at MIF)

an actual upbeat track, but not one that anybody really remembers. decent guitars, and keyboards on this one.

08 Shellshock (Live at MIF)

an excellent version of this song. great vocals, and recreating the sound of the original. could have been longer though.

09 Guilt Is A Useless Emotion (Live at MIF)

another late era dance tune. this one actually works decent enough. however, bernard needs to work on his delivery. it sounds a little lacking in matching the energy of the tune.

10 Subculture (Live at MIF)

another stand out track, this is definitely one of the highlights of the show. very well done considering the trickiness of getting the sounds to match. different enough to make it interesting.

11 Bizarre Love Triangle (Live at MIF)

the well worn class, and gladly its the richard x remix version, as the other ones have been played to death. so although its decent, its got its place here as the standard track. since they're NOT playing blue monday or true faith.

12 Vanishing Point (Live at MIF)

another lackluster technique era track, which is surprising that that dragged it back out to play. it didn't get much attention back then, and its kind of a so-so track now, with its pseudo-house sound, doesn't work out to well.

13 Plastic (Live at MIF)

from the last album, this is one of the more upbeat tracks that makes it into the concerts lately. a dance track for sure, that works, and represents they can still do them from time to time.

14 Your Silent Face (Live at MIF)

another golden era song, nice additions to it, and its good to see it coming back to the setlist. good tempo and tone. very good.

15 Decades (Live at MIF)

another joy division song, and a rather long one at that. they do a good job at recreating it.

16 Elegia (Live at MIF)

another all time classic, this is what the show should have started out with. hypnotic, grand, and epic. just the short version though.

17 Heart & Soul (Live at MIF)

joy division track, but one that has some frantic tones to it, as always, its good to hear some of the early historical tracks.

18 Behind Closed Doors (Live at MIF)

this bside from crystal, is definitely a lost song. which, although interesting, is a rather odd song to attempt. its rather wordy, and although its about loss, and redemption, you have to wonder why they included it. it's passable, but not very memorable. guess they liked it for the instrumentation.

as a project, this seems to be a pretty cool idea on paper.

visually, it looked cool too. lots of lights, synthesizers, etc.

however, the execution is lacking, the songs don't mesh well together. there's to many slow tracks bringing down the energy.

there's also a lot of inconsistent vocals and singing from bernard.

there's a few standouts : subculture, guilt is a useless emotion, ultraviolence, and shellshock.


bottom line : a well produced, well mixed concert, but lacking in content

they tried to vary the song listing, but too many subpar songs made the cut, when they probably shouldn't have. its nice trying to play deep cuts, and lesser known album tracks, but maybe they should have actually picked ones that were more upbeat, or ones that might get better recognition. but thats the trick isn't it, trying to balance fan favorites, with songs that never get played. doesn't always work though.

not really worth getting the deluxe, but worth streaming or downloading for a taste of some of them.

it would be a C grade or 2.5 / 5 star rating.

later -1

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I disagree completely -1. It's a great live album, with some tracks we've not heard live for many years in interesting arrangements, aimed very much at us long term fans. Makes a great change to their festival sets, which are aimed at a different audience. It doesn't always have to be lively!

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I thought the MiF gigs were a triumph. Brilliant both aurally and visually.

So many highlights.

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So many words yet so much missing of the point....

I attended 3 of these shows at the time - including the one in Vienna - and like Mr Discography I think the album is great.

I've had Times Change on heavy repeat since yesterday as it's just bizarre (in a good way) to know we finally have a live version of it. Albeit without Barney's 'unique' rapping.

Disorder packs just as much of a punch just as it did in the flesh. Ultraviolence is a standout. Also, is it just me or should they have kept that 'intro' for KW1 beyond the MIF shows? Sounds immense.

All in all a well thought-out and well put together package. The usual top notch sound quality we've come to expect from any NO release with Arkwright involved in the mastering.

Even if as a fan you're not bothered with the physical copies these days (the Vinyl is a tad pricey) just get the FLAC or MP3s and you won't be disappointed. I got the lot.

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I haven't bought the album yet for some reason but i was at the first and last gigs at manchester

At the first one i must admit that i was seriously underwhelmed with the set list.....i had in my head songs i hoped they'd play and felt like it was a missed opportunity

The last night i really enjoyed as i knew not to be dissapointed with the set list

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NotAMod wrote: So many words yet so much missing of the point....

Absofuckinglutely. It baffles me that, even after all this time, people still want live albums full of the same old shit they've been getting for decades (no pun intented). I reckon if New Order put out one more live album with Blue Bastard Monday on it I may well physically assault members of the band. Probably the little one on the bass.

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It’s interesting to get a different view from someone living up to their name -1 and to balance out opinion on A NO site which by its very nature to be biased but to my ears the album is superb. I was Lucky enough to attend One of the MiF events and IMO one of the very best NO events I have attended. I loved it they played all day long shocked me by playing behind closed doors (didn’t play this track on the event I attended but sounds great on my vinyl version) sounds like mr -1 does not rate Technique but I’m sure the majority of new order fans loved the fact VP and Dream attack was played.

A wonderful record to own to document one of the best live events of any band I have attended.

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I’m sure -1 received a different record to the rest of us. It’s bloody fantastic!

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i stand by my opinions.

its one thing to have a special performance, such as the orchestral one in Australia, which i would have preferred.

and another one, which is much more of a visual experiment along with the audio.

i'm well aware, it would have been a lot more interesting in person, if you went to the first show, and didn't know they were going to play an eclectic mix of tracks.

it's totally another thing, to listen to all the tracks, in a different context. especially when we know exactly what tracks they are, and why they've picked them more for visual impact, than the actual song.

i still don't think anyone was actually asking to hear who's joe, dream attack, all day long, or behind closed doors.

the fact remains that if band has barely bothered to play these songs ever before, why should we care.

especially, when they have a huge catalog of songs that haven't been played in ages, and would have been a lot better choices.

thieves like us touched by the hand of God confusion brutal mesh cries and whispers lets go way of life angel dust

anyways, its just disappointing to hear several slow, downtempo songs, interspersed with some classic, a couple of instrumentals, and 3 joy division songs (although well played, could have been replaced with other tracks).

like i said, its fine to stream or download, but not worth buying an expensive package on vinyl or cd that's overpriced.

later -1

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negative1 wrote:

i still don't think anyone was actually asking to hear... dream attack, all day long, ...

I was. People have been crying out for Technique songs for years (it's clear you don't like the album much -1, but you're in the minority there). And All Day Long is one of my favourite NO songs; a great example of an album track that deserved a live airing. Absolutely love it.

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Bernard's vocals sound surprisingly good for a live show. Has he spent the last two years overdubbing them in the studio? [:p]

Apart from that (which I guess is not really a complaint) - I really enjoyed it. The new arrangement of YSF is beautiful, and Elegia...well let's just say I suspect Hooky won't be happy that they did such a fantastic job of what used to effectively be his big solo

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It really is a tremendous achievement. Even songs I don't normally care for (Who's Joe?, Behind Closed Doors) shine. The standouts for me are Times Change, Disorder, Subculture, Vanishing Point (especially how it segues out of Bizarre Love Triangle), and Your Silent Face, but I love the whole thing from top to bottom.

Best f*cking band in the world.

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If I could pick any one song from their entire discography I wish they'd included, it would be Special. I think it's a beautiful, underrated song, and would sound immense with the keyboard orchestra. They attempted to play it once on the Republic tour, but Barney botched the lyrics. :(

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50 Pound Note wrote: It really is a tremendous achievement ... I love the whole thing from top to bottom.

Yep. Mind blown.

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50 Pound Note wrote: Best f*cking band in the world.

You know, I’ve been listening to some early gigs over the last few days. Ones where they run the likes of Everything’s Gone Green into 586 into Temptation, for one long medley, or the one where they did a 20 minute plus version of Ultraviolence. Incredible stuff.

I have to agree; the most ridiculously brilliant band to ever exist.

The MiF gigs are recent examples of their sublime talent.

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Has anyone redeemed their download inside the vinyl box-set, yet?

If so, what quality are the FLACs at?

I'm seeing Hi-Res digital versions of the album on sale sporting 44kHz/24-bit but I know Music Complete was redeemable in 96kHz/24-bit via code with the vinyl.

Cheers.

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I've downloaded them, and as far as I can tell these FLACs are 48kHz /24

NotAMod wrote: Has anyone redeemed their download inside the vinyl box-set, yet?

If so, what quality are the FLACs at?

I'm seeing Hi-Res digital versions of the album on sale sporting 44kHz/24-bit but I know Music Complete was redeemable in 96kHz/24-bit via code with the vinyl.

Cheers.

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50 Pound Note wrote: If I could pick any one song from their entire discography I wish they'd included, it would be Special. I think it's a beautiful, underrated song, and would sound immense with the keyboard orchestra. They attempted to play it once on the Republic tour, but Barney botched the lyrics. :(

Totally agree! Was thinking exactly this yesterday when I was listening to Hooky's Technique / Republic show on Spotify. He did a pretty good job of Special (and did the best he could with the rest of the Republic material) - much better than the unintentionally comical NO attempt you mentioned.

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Really enjoying the album. Live Hey Joe nags at me even more than usual, the feeling there is a truly great NO tune in there to be found – mainly in the refrain and the quick bass and synths – and they didn't quite find it.

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Debaser wrote:

negative1 wrote:

i still don't think anyone was actually asking to hear... dream attack, all day long, ...

I was. People have been crying out for Technique songs for years (it's clear you don't like the album much -1, but you're in the minority there). And All Day Long is one of my favourite NO songs; a great example of an album track that deserved a live airing. Absolutely love it.

Fellow ADL fan checking in. Dead-set understated album track classic.

There's a moment where the twanging country guitar bridge builds into the synth climax all over that pulsing electro beat that's pure majesty. Quintessential New Order 'indie meets dance' moment.

Not sure how anyone can make sweeping statements like "I don't think anyone was actually asking to hear..". Especially in this company.

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