∑(No,12k,Lg,17Mif) New Order + Liam Gillick: So it goes.. is released on July 12th

depthcharge wrote: Not sure how anyone can make sweeping statements like "I don't think anyone was actually asking to hear..". Especially in this company.

Consider the source.

Trivia time.On the download code from the vinyl the mp3 of Your Silent Face is titled KW1, but not on the FLAC download.

50 Pound Note wrote:

depthcharge wrote: Not sure how anyone can make sweeping statements like "I don't think anyone was actually asking to hear..". Especially in this company.

Consider the source.

seriously... All Day Long and Dream Attack are a few of my favorite new order tracks, fucking CLASSICS

-1 most appreciating Subculture on this release "another stand out track, this is definitely one of the highlights of the show." tells me everything I need to know about his taste.

So I've been listening to this album for the past couple of weeks and I definitely think it's New Order's best produced live albums. The drums sound really strong (really don't know why Steve's drums sounded so flat on NOMC15), Barney actually sounds very good, and you can actually make out Tom's bass very well.

There's a couple of things that gripe me with this album.

1. New Order is a band with now 3 guitarists - sometimes playing at the same time. I'm pretty sure Barney, Phil, and Gillian are all playing guitar on Dream Attack so why the do guitars sound so weak?

2. I think someone said it earlier about how you can't tell that there's a synth orchestra behind them because this was just an audio release. Maybe it would have been more effective if we could see the orchestra for in a video format? Since you know this was pretty much a multi-talented musical art installation. Because we could all be hearing backing tracks.

I really think this was a great effort and this is the bands' best live album to date. Most of these songs show that New Order can still kick it and reinvent themselves. Maybe they should do the same with their current setlist.

I feel I need to chime back in in light of my negative comment above. I love this album, this is a fantastic show I wish I was at. I’ve bought the other recent live albums (bestival, there’s another one, yes?) and listened to those once or twice. This is on heavy rotation in the LostSiren household.Shellshock, Ultraviolence, subculture, disorder and behind closed doors are huge standouts for me. Best band on the planet.

tarbox23 wrote:

-1 most appreciating Subculture on this release "another stand out track, this is definitely one of the highlights of the show." tells me everything I need to know about his taste.

I don't agree with -1's assessment of the album, but to be fair, 'Sub-culture' is a revelation and by far the best track on this album. Such a surprise to see it in the setlist and a dynamic and playful arrangement.

LostSiren wrote: I feel I need to chime back in in light of my negative comment above. I love this album, this is a fantastic show I wish I was at. I’ve bought the other recent live albums (bestival, there’s another one, yes?) and listened to those once or twice. This is on heavy rotation in the LostSiren household.Shellshock, Ultraviolence, subculture, disorder and behind closed doors are huge standouts for me. Best band on the planet.

I wasn't really trying to be negative. I do think it's a wonderful live album. The synths and instrumentation sound very full and we'll mixed. I personally listen to a lot of bands that heavily use guitars and I understand New Order isn't that band, but still I know they can do it. Every single song on here was executed great, especially SubCulture, Shellshock, BLT, Vanishing, and the real bohemeth of the album, Decades.

Live at Bestival was a great live effort too, but something about NOMC15's production just felt off.

Also, after finally seeing New Order for the first time ever this year in Miami, they are a band that sound sonically great.

tarbox23 wrote:

50 Pound Note wrote:

depthcharge wrote: Not sure how anyone can make sweeping statements like "I don't think anyone was actually asking to hear..". Especially in this company.

Consider the source.

-1 most appreciating Subculture on this release "another stand out track, this is definitely one of the highlights of the show." tells me everything I need to know about his taste.

that's fine, that you have your own tastes.

but for the MIF concerts, i think you missed the point of it: This special series of intimate shows took over Stage 1 of Manchester’s iconic Old Granada Studios for five nights in June 2017. Created in collaboration with visual artist Liam Gillick, who has previously presented solo exhibitions at venues such as Tate Britain and MoMA in New York; and orchestrated by composer-arranger Joe Duddell, a fellow son of Manchester and a frequent collaborator with the band, the live show was performed by the band with a 12-strong synthesiser ensemble from the Royal Northern College of Music.

so a concert that is mostly based on multiple synths, with a song like sub-culture is out of place? or bad? really.

and that's the song they put out first to showcase this.

maybe, you would prefer appreciating 'whos joe', or the joy division tracks instead.

later -1

I was hoping for Rock the Shack.

NotAMod wrote: Has anyone redeemed their download inside the vinyl box-set, yet?

If so, what quality are the FLACs at?

I'm seeing Hi-Res digital versions of the album on sale sporting 44kHz/24-bit but I know Music Complete was redeemable in 96kHz/24-bit via code with the vinyl.

Cheers.

I just got the vinyl set but so far I don't see anything about downloading the digital copy, was there a card or something for that?

Never mind. I just noticed a little sticker on the bottom corner of the jacket for the first album.

NYGuy1975 wrote: I just got the vinyl set

Mine arrived today, too.

Great stuff. Glad you finally got it.

Enjoy!

Late follow-up but fuck me, that CD is, in the words of Sylvia Plath, fucking awesome. How cool to hear them FINALLY dig out gems like Ultraviolence, Times Change and Vanishing Point, and not a single Blue Bumday, True Faith Perfuckedo or Temptazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzion in sight. Even oldie BLT gets a reworking. With Music Complete and these gigs, they were finally ON again. Bet you never thought I'd say anything positive eh?