Most Wanted New Order Item[official releases]

What New Order item are you having trouble or have had trouble finding?

my vote goes to the "True Faith" video-CD. i tried several times to bid on eBay, but it became dead-expensive...

WIM please as i have got some of the items mentioned but others are just TOO expensive for a REDUNDANT ROCKETEER!:D

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Don't really want any of them!

OK I can be a bit of a sad completist as far as getting every actual track in one form or another but I've never really understood the appeal of collecting the 'objects' - that is getting stuff with the same old tracks but in different packaging/format.

Do people set out to collect the stuff or is it something that creeps up on you, starting when you realise you happen to have accidentally acquired something rare?

hmmm, though I've just realised I have the factory 7" of temptation...

I haven't been able to find the Canadian 6 track World in Motion CDS.

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i cannot stomach collecting...i prefer my anxiety level low and my wallet fat.:D

TuTTi FRutti - WEA Brazil 1988(two Brazilian medleys) promoLP. This iten is very rare

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This iten is very rare and original for WEA Brazil. was release in 1989 for brazilian DJS and radios. LP - Tutti Frutti 89 Promo number 04 6WP.1004 side A

1. Cat house - Danielle Dax
2. Cinderella Under cover - Oingo Boingo
3. The New World - X
4. bathroom wall - Faster Pussy cat

Side B

1. MEDLEY New Order (Tecno Medley by José Roberto Mahr & Sergio Loureiro) 5'24"
2. MEDLEY New Order (Substantial megamix - mini version by Marcelo Memê) 8"37"

Originally posted by Elázaro Moses Mokrabe This iten is very rare and original for WEA Brazil. was release in 1989 for brazilian DJS and radios. LP - Tutti Frutti 89Promo number 04 6WP.1004side A1) Cat house - Danielle Dax2) Cinderella Under cover - Oingo Boingo3) The New World - X4) bathroom wall - Faster Pussy catSide B1) MEDLEY New Order (Tecno Medley by José Roberto Mahr & Sergio Loureiro) 5'24"2) MEDLEY New Order (Substantial megamix - mini version by Marcelo Memê) 8"37"

Do you have a spare copy?

I`ll swap this lot for it.

20 cdrs with videology and audiology 1 cdr - rarer tracks and bsides 5 - 7"inches (Ceremony, Shellshock,BM 95, True Faith, thieves like us) 2 Lp soundtrack ab compilation - Married to the mob a& Like a Girl... 5 - 12" inches - Perfect Kiss, subculture, Everything...,Ceremony Run2. 1 - 12"mega medleys - on u sound Blue Order 1 - Lp double - Confusion Pump Panel 2 cd single - BM (JP), BM 88 (CA) 1 cd - World Order best of NO (Asia) Video - Academy original

Originally posted by Elázaro Moses Mokrabe This iten is very rare and original for WEA Brazil. was release in 1989 for brazilian DJS and radios. LP - Tutti Frutti 89Promo number 04 6WP.1004side A1) Cat house - Danielle Dax2) Cinderella Under cover - Oingo Boingo3) The New World - X4) bathroom wall - Faster Pussy catSide B1) MEDLEY New Order (Tecno Medley by José Roberto Mahr & Sergio Loureiro) 5'24"2) MEDLEY New Order (Substantial megamix - mini version by Marcelo Memê) 8"37"

I have got it :D

You don't understand me. I was trade in 2000 with my japan friend one copy that i have for all itens. At moment i don't have other original copy for Tutti Frutti, if you have interest i can searching for you and reserve for fute=ure trade.

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by Andy T> I haven't been able to find the Canadian 6 track World in Motion CDS.

How about ordering it?

http://www.hmv.com/servlet/HMVApp/ProductDetails.ProductDetails/product?productSKU=418306&sessionID=372469515790273558170436&m1=H&m2=H&bskct=0&source=&sv=1

The above link you suggested offers the US 4 track CDS from Warner Bros. I was referring to the 6 track Canadian release on Factory (distributed by London or Polydor, don't recall exactly) that included The Carabinieri & Subbuteo Dub mixes.

I have that True Faith gold CDV, but the PAL video won't play on my equipment! :)

Originally posted by Andy T I have that True Faith gold CDV, but the PAL video won't play on my equipment! :)

I have that too, do you need some old analogue equipment to play it? It won`t play in the Cd rom or DVD, why?

I have that too, do you need some old analogue equipment to play it? It won`t play in the Cd rom or DVD, why?

My DVD player and CD-Rom only play NTSC video. The audio tracks do play though.

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by -- ..- .-. ...- > > > > Originally posted by Andy T> > I have that True Faith gold CDV, but the PAL video won't play on my equipment! :)>

I have that too, do you need some old analogue equipment to play it? It won`t play in the Cd rom or DVD, why?

Why are they so sought after if you can`t play them, unless you buy an antique player? Anyone got any

You have the answer in your reply.. the VCD is analogue, hence, will not play on a DVD (numeric) player.

You need the old laser disc reader.. you know, those with the 12" laser discs that you had to turn in the middle of the movie!! :D

Originally posted by Andy T I have that too, do you need some old analogue equipment to play it? It won`t play in the Cd rom or DVD, why?

My DVD player and CD-Rom only play NTSC video. The audio tracks do play though.

Compact Disc Video is the required system popular around the late eighties. Unfortunately it did not take off and was quickly blow out of the water by CD's and DVD's a couple of years after. You might need to acquire a photo disc player by Kodak (primarily for viewing photos) to play this item, which I also own and have never seen.

I've heard that on the B-side of the disk there is a full feature film about cats narrated by Steve Osbourne.

Indeed the B-SIDE should have be the A-SIDE.Plays fine in a COMPACT TOASTER (4-SLICE EDITION).But only try this when your parents go out!:D

I shelled out fifty notes for that there beer mat, anyone got anthing interesting they wanna swap it for, nowt unNew Orderish mind

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I shelled out fifty notes for that there beer mat, anyone got anthing interesting they wanna swap it for, nowt unNew Orderish mind

HOOKY's empty HOT NOODLE or GILLIANS hairbrush i nicked from PRESTON.Don't need it anymore!Is the mat still moist?:D

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The WEA "Tutt Frutti" album is a bit interesting but in real terms is a bit of a mis-nomer as it utilises uncommissioned dj megamixes as opposed to officially licensed and master-supplied remixes...i.e. one of those "HotTracks" type style things that Rob Gretton loathed...in reality, this would only be worth something in the region of £30-£40 or as previoulsy repeated when this subject comes up; as much as any individual is prepared to pay. The rarest discs are probably BBC transcription discs - which are both illegal to sell and frequently faked by the way. 7" promos for "Thieves Like Us", or "Run" and fairly rare and the UK 7" "Heavy Rotation" promo for "Confusion" is actually VERY rare indeed though I'm sure I've seen it discussed here a few times. Managed to pick up a couple of copies at Palatine Road in 1989 along with a test pressing of "Transmission" no less!! There are 2 version of the 7" "Perfect Kiss" promo - both of which would be much sought after if indeed anyone really knew about them!

I picked up the 7" Run 2, Confusion heavy rotation and thieves like us singles you mention pretty cheaply recently, i suppose I was lucky. The Italian and NZ procession 7" singles seem to be very rare and the coloured Confusion 7".

Are those RT Deutschland "Confusion" promos genuinely rare? I seem to remember all manner of colours hitting the market in '84. You were lucky getting those "cheaply" - the "Heavy Rotation" promo is especially rare. There is an acetate/dub plate of "Confusion/I.O.U." that even had an advance Fac. number. How much would that be worth? More importantly, has anyone ever heard it? Doubtful! Andy Robinson didn't even know it existed! Throughout their history, New Order have produced a myriad of these rarities. I"m sure most bands have.

I`ve only been able to find the RT confusion purple,blue,lime green and green. apparently there are 9 different colours.

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I`ve only been able to find the RT confusion purple,blue,lime green and green. apparently there are 9 different colours.

I thought the nine colours was for FAC 53 only.The GERMAN promos are not rare but lovely to put on the wall.If you play em put the B-side only.It is blank.Another was the STREETWISE promo which again is easy to find!Most of my collection is still relatively easy to get but some OTHERS who use this FORUM have some gems. Rocket MIck on the roof of HUNTSMAN's house trying to get into the loft.Highly dangerous cos he has smeared the FLOOR with PRINGLES(flavour unknown) as a NOISE detector.Now that is HI-TEC!:D

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by -- ..- .-. ...- > I`ve only been able to find the RT confusion purple,blue,lime green and green. apparently there are 9 different colours.

I thought the nine colours was for FAC 53 only.The GERMAN promos are not rare but lovely to put on the wall.If you play em put the B-side only.It is blank.Another was the STREETWISE promo which again is easy to find!Most of my collection is still relatively easy to get but some OTHERS who use this FORUM have some gems. Rocket MIck on the roof of HUNTSMAN's house trying to get into the loft.Highly dangerous cos he has smeared the FLOOR with PRINGLES(flavour unknown) as a NOISE detector.Now that is HI-TEC!:D

Okay theres 8 different colours for the confusion Rough trade jukebox 7", Im half way there. Theyll hang nicely next to the flying ducks.

The procession/egg 7" there are 9 colours, does the portugese blue/grey count as the blue UK 1/9 or is there a UK blue as well as the aqua blue? If so there are 12 p/s to the collection,

You mention that one.....well nine in BRITAIN -ish plus at least 3 others.But also remember that i am cheating in that my YELLOW one has NEW ORDER written at the top left hand corner which means this if FOREIGN to BRITAIN.This was put onto FRENCH released ones (not imports) as to define to the public who it was by.In the same way that BLT in CANADA had a picture in the middle of the group.And a sticker with what the single is.Very mundane or interesting.MURV i think that there could even be more than these.The BLUE i have just got and the AQUA are NOT the same. Cheers RM

the true faith cdv is sought after cos a) there weren many of them & b) it has evil dust on it.

also features the video version of tf i think (will have to go home & check)

Originally posted by hibster the true faith cdv is sought after cosa) there weren many of them& b) it has evil dust on it.also features the video version of tf i think (will have to go home & check)

The third track on the CDV is a rather tasty edit of the Pettibone remix. An exclusivity, if that's a genuine word.

The re-mix on the CD-V is the re-mix 12" released at the same time as the original True Faith 12" ... it has a white cover with multi-coloured leaves.

So not really exclusive, although the CD-V is difficult to get hold of.

Originally posted by Huntsman The re-mix on the CD-V is the re-mix 12" released at the same time as the original True Faith 12" ... it has a white cover with multi-coloured leaves.So not really exclusive, although the CD-V is difficult to get hold of.

Classic cover and i have the AUSSIE one as well...is the remix FAC183R?

Yes Mick it is.

What's the Aussie one? ... I forget now.

Originally posted by Huntsman Yes Mick it is.What's the Aussie one? ... I forget now.

Has PARADISE on it (that remix) and a great STICKER but not big enough to spoil the cover.Same cover and same number also!

That's right, your right. I remember now. Robert Racisc(?) mix ... the best (only) re-mix of Paradise.

Odd that they never included on the UK 12" but that's another story.

All TF items in my loft.

Nice.

Originally posted by Huntsman The re-mix on the CD-V is the re-mix 12" released at the same time as the original True Faith 12" ... it has a white cover with multi-coloured leaves.So not really exclusive, although the CD-V is difficult to get hold of.

Yes the 12" remix is there as track 1, but if you read what I actually said, track 3 is the exclusive edit version of the remix. It is of course mislabelled as "7-inch", but that's another story.

Originally posted by Huntsman That's right, your right. I remember now. Robert Racisc(?) mix ... the best (only) re-mix of Paradise.Odd that they never included on the UK 12" but that's another story.All TF items in my loft. Nice.

I believe the well-received Robert Racic Paradise remix was commissioned by Festival Australia for use on the domestic release, they were the local distributors at the time. Racic was a respected local dance pioneer of sorts (remixes: Severed Heads, A Certain Ratio) and I say was because he met a premature death in recent times. Would've only been mid-30's.

A small but worthy contribution to the New Order story.

RIP.

:\pimp3:

Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by Huntsman> The re-mix on the CD-V is the re-mix 12" released at the same time as the original True Faith 12" ... it has a white cover with multi-coloured leaves.> > So not really exclusive, although the CD-V is difficult to get hold of.> >

Yes the 12" remix is there as track 1, but if you read what I actually said, track 3 is the exclusive edit version of the remix. It is of course mislabelled as "7-inch", but that's another story.

Interesting, I'll check this nugget of info. out this very evening ... after some pressing and important business I need to attend to ... but that's another story. A story far to powerful to relay just now.

Apologies for failing to recognise your initial point, I blame this on my tendancy to skip the real detail in favour of seeking a funny side to the story.

But,

that's another story.

Originally posted by depthcharge > Originally posted by Huntsman> That's right, your right. I remember now. Robert Racisc(?) mix ... the best (only) re-mix of Paradise.> > Odd that they never included on the UK 12" but that's another story.> > All TF items in my loft. > > Nice.> >

I believe the well-received Robert Racic Paradise remix was commissioned by Festival Australia for use on the domestic release, they were the local distributors at the time. Racic was a respected local dance pioneer of sorts (remixes: Severed Heads, A Certain Ratio) and I say was because he met a premature death in recent times. Would've only been mid-30's.

A small but worthy contribution to the New Order story.

RIP.

:\pimp3:

He leaves a unique legacy, joining the very proud few who have managed to produce superb alternative versions of some of NO's most classic songs.

Originally posted by Huntsman > Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by Huntsman> The re-mix on the CD-V is the re-mix 12" released at the same time as the original True Faith 12" ... it has a white cover with multi-coloured leaves.> > So not really exclusive, although the CD-V is difficult to get hold of.> >

Yes the 12" remix is there as track 1, but if you read what I actually said, track 3 is the exclusive edit version of the remix. It is of course mislabelled as "7-inch", but that's another story.

Interesting, I'll check this nugget of info. out this very evening ... after some pressing and important business I need to attend to ... but that's another story. A story far to powerful to relay just now.

Apologies for failing to recognise your initial point, I blame this on my tendancy to skip the real detail in favour of seeking a funny side to the story.

But,

that's another story.

Having just re-read my post, it comes across as a bit stroppy, which wasn't my intention. Sorry!

I believe the well-received Robert Racic Paradise remix was commissioned by Festival Australia for use on the domestic release, they were the local distributors at the time. Racic was a respected local dance pioneer of sorts (remixes: Severed Heads, A Certain Ratio) and I say was because he met a premature death in recent times. Would've only been mid-30's.

A small but worthy contribution to the New Order story.

RIP.

Robert Racic also produced Austalian New Order wannabes Boxcar (think NO diluted with Information Society). They were a 4 piece that received quite a bit of club play in the U.S around 1990. 1st single, Freemason, was remixed by Arthur Baker!

Yeah...there is a compilation CD of Robert Racic's work released after his death...but I cant remember if Paradise is in there.... I think that that compilation CD is released to raised AIDS awareness, I think....Robert Racic being a major figure in our Aussie 'Pink Power' Dance Scene in the 80's.

My most wanted doesn`t appear... where can I find that damned NZ 12" Blue Monday red vinyl?

Track 3 of the True Faith CDV is really good, I haven't listened to that mix for years.

It's so wonderful to be able to watch the video segment as well on my laserdisc player.

I'm really pissed off that I never saw the BM cdv, TF I picked up in HMV on 24th August 1990 and cost £5.99.

The Best Of presentation set looks like a really nice item.

TRUE FAITH C.D.V. these are like rocking horse sh*t in the u.k, i recently got outbid on ebay,the final price was £46.00 !!!!! they are a nightmare to find ,but no proper collection is complete without one!!!!!!!! ANYONE OUT THERE GOT ONE FOR SALE? STEVE SMITH SMITHDARTON@AOL.COM

-choke-

I WANT THEM ALL!!! What kind of question IS this?!

Originally posted by Diana Kinscherf -choke-I WANT THEM ALL!!!What kind of question IS this?!

More of a survey than a question, now that I have duplicates of everything...how much will they fetch and whats the demand? :D

Hey, big MURV.....when are you gonna release those eggs on Ebay? No, not those hairy ones.....haahaa...

Now, don't tell me we'll have to wait till Easter?

got it->Xmas flexi fac51b [ 8 ] [ 19.04% ] got it-> Run 2 7" [ 3 ] [ 7.14% ] got it-> In Order orange vinyl [ 1 ] [ 2.38% ] got it-> Japanese 3" TBTHOG [ 1 ] [ 2.38% ] got it-> B.M. CDV [ 2 ] [ 4.76% ] got it-> True Faith CDV [ 9 ] [ 21.42% ] got it-> Temptation 7" Factory/Mute [ 3 ] [ 7.14% ] got it-> Thieves like Us 7" promo

need

* P.C.L. RTD 11[colored vinyl] [ 3 ] [ 7.14% ] confusion 7" dj promo [ 0 ] [ 0.00% ] confusion 7' colored vinyl [ 0 ] [ 0.00% ]

dont care

NZ procession/egg [ 1 ] [ 2.38% ] Italian procession/egg [ 1 ] [ 2.38% ] japanese 17 track CD promo DCI3098 [ 0 ] [ 0.00% ] Brazilian B.M. flexi [ 0 ] [ 0.00% ] japanese 1981-1985 DJ promo TD 3072 [ 2 ] [ 4.76% ] US Movement [colored vinyl] [ 1 ] [ 2.38% ] Best Of promo Boxset [ 3 ] [ 7.14% ] Canadian Technique CD promo [ 0 ] [ 0.00% ] WIM promo KIT [ 2 ] [ 4.76% ]

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Ahhh but does any NOOLer have the 12" Blue Monday red vinyl NZ release. If so lets see a photo of it!please

The 3 most rare New Order vinyl releases are all of Blue Monday, the NZ 12" red, Jap 7" DJ promo and the Polish 7" dj promo... I`ve only ever seen the polish one on eBay it went for US$150 and Mr Sultan won it.

Looks like the Sultan is always in motion....

Last nite I thought I was sitting pretty on this item

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1057&item=2502590507&rd=1

(....thinking that no one has noticed this French test CD pressing has THE PERFECT KISS full version...well at 8'01" maybe 'not-so-full' version but still better than the 4'49")

....I was still the high bidder at only US$10.50 - cheap!!....BUT ALAS!!! ...... in the last 5 seconds, I WAS SNIPED!

Yeah...this is the 2nd or 3rd copy of this same that David has picked up on Ebay....

unless I'm wrong and he got sniped before also

Originally posted by -1 19.04%
got it-> Temptation 7" Factory/Mute [ 3 ] [ 7.14% ]

-ve.... you and 7 others!!!you lucky,lucky b`stard..

http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/

19.04% got it-> Temptation 7" Factory/Mute [ 3 ] [ 7.14% ]

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-ve.... you and 7 others!!!you lucky,lucky b`stard..

http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/

Edited by: murv at: 2003.02.08 - 05:41 CDT

OOOPS....sorry , no i don't have the RARE pressing with the Depeche mode track on the b-side,

i just have the factory 7"..

sorry about that mix up..

later

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I is negotiating the purchase of this iten: TUTTI FRUTTI - 12"Promo - two exclusive medleys of NO Who it desire buys read or change read by others itens rare of the NO contact me. email: emokrabe@bol.com.br

Originally posted by Diana Kinscherf -choke-I WANT THEM ALL!!!What kind of question IS this?!

Originally posted by murv Ahhh but does any NOOLer have the 12" Blue Monday red vinyl NZ release. If so lets see a photo of it!pleaseThe 3 most rare New Order vinyl releases are all of Blue Monday, the NZ 12" red, Jap 7" DJ promo and the Polish 7" dj promo... I`ve only ever seen the polish one on eBay it went for US$150 and Mr Sultan won it.

Polish 7" dj promo...are you serious :\ohwell:

Originally posted by Jim Giliberto > Originally posted by murv> Ahhh but does any NOOLer have the 12" Blue Monday red vinyl NZ release. If so lets see a photo of it!please> > The 3 most rare New Order vinyl releases are all of Blue Monday, the NZ 12" red, Jap 7" DJ promo and the Polish 7" dj promo... I`ve only ever seen the polish one on eBay it went for US$150 and Mr Sultan won it.

Polish 7" dj promo...are you serious :\ohwell:

This one, its very limited @ 60 copies only.

7": PL 1988 (Tonpress DS-25-A) [promo] *** 5:05 Blue Monday I wished I`d bid for the one on eBay now, it was a little expensive... Although saying that, its cheap compared to some of those JD 7"ers, ie An Ideal for Living 225.GBP.

Is gatefold substance not considered hard to find?

Originally posted by Hydrapelican Is gatefold substance not considered hard to find?

There`s a gatefold Fac 200s for sale on eBay for $40 with a reserve, I paid 50.00GBP for my mint copy. Its a beautiful collectors item, the cover is one of the best New Order releases and its a numbered limited edition. Talking of rare items , the Temptation 7" with oberkorn by Dep Mode on the b side must be No.1 .. only eight copies!!

What about Ostrich a go-go ?

An, An Ideal for Living E.P. went for £410.00 on e-bay yesterday. A copy of UP was at about £78.00 a few days ago.

How rare is the TLU 7" promo? What is fair market?

Got my Gatefold Substance a few months back and paid about the $80 that the last one went for...it is my favorite NO item...