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Youtube link for Reeder's alternative remix -- unavailable in my country right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNKI7BBFcd8
https://twitter.com/markreedermfs/status/1370151393491890177
Edit: direct stream via BandCamp:
https://markreedermfs1.bandcamp.com/track/new-order-be-a-rebel-mark-reeders-cheeky-devil-remix
Mr. Disco wrote: Youtube link for Reeder's alternative remix -- unavailable in my country right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNKI7BBFcd8
https://twitter.com/markreedermfs/status/1370151393491890177
Edit: direct stream via BandCamp:
https://markreedermfs1.bandcamp.com/track/new-order-be-a-rebel-mark-reeders-cheeky-devil-remix
sorry, not as good as the other one, and not long enough other.
it's just to basic, and simplistic sounding. not much to it.
later -1
Sounds like my reaction to Krafty 12". I still haven't really got into Be A Rebel, simply cos I 'need' to get my free hand on a physical release. There's something off about downloads.
negative1 wrote: sorry, not as good as the other one, and not long enough other.
it's just to basic, and simplistic sounding. not much to it.
later -1
Think I like the other one better as well.
Michael Monkhouse wrote: Sounds like my reaction to Krafty 12". I still haven't really got into Be A Rebel, simply cos I 'need' to get my free hand on a physical release. There's something off about downloads.
Tell me about it... I totally dislike vinyl, so I ended up getting the 12" assuming there would be no CD single this time.
I really like both Reeder remixes - they put me in mind of the R&R CD back in the day, which contained a number of remixes, each bringing something different to the party but still pretty faithful to the original.
I may have to get the CDS after all, if it bundles these together.
There are 11 official versions released so far. Maybe an US Maxi-CD, if such a thing still exists...
Michael Monkhouse wrote: Sounds like my reaction to Krafty 12". .
Why what was wrong with the Krafty 12 inch? I dug it out the other day and I quite enjoyed it.Phones Reality mix and the 2 Glimmers mixes sounded alright. Though I was startled to notice the Phones Reality mix is Paul Epworth. Isn’t he the one who produced all Adele’s multi million selling albums or something? Never had him down as anywhere near remixing New Order.
Fotz wrote:
Michael Monkhouse wrote: Sounds like my reaction to Krafty 12". .
Why what was wrong with the Krafty 12 inch? I dug it out the other day and I quite enjoyed it.Phones Reality mix and the 2 Glimmers mixes sounded alright. Though I was startled to notice the Phones Reality mix is Paul Epworth. Isn’t he the one who produced all Adele’s multi million selling albums or something? Never had him down as anywhere near remixing New Order.
I first knew of him as a producer and remixer of Bloc Party, and he's also worked with Maximo Park (who supported NO at Wembley arena '06). He's a man of many talents. For me the surprise is the other way around - that he ended up working with Adele.
It's been fucking years but I think it was the Glimmers 12" that didn't impress me. A bleached-out, unnecessarily elongated take that sounded more like an early demo than an official mix. Shanya Twaine can't conjugate verbs. That don't impress me much.
Debaser wrote:
Fotz wrote:
Michael Monkhouse wrote: Sounds like my reaction to Krafty 12". .
Why what was wrong with the Krafty 12 inch? I dug it out the other day and I quite enjoyed it.Phones Reality mix and the 2 Glimmers mixes sounded alright. Though I was startled to notice the Phones Reality mix is Paul Epworth. Isn’t he the one who produced all Adele’s multi million selling albums or something? Never had him down as anywhere near remixing New Order.
I first knew of him as a producer and remixer of Bloc Party, and he's also worked with Maximo Park (who supported NO at Wembley arena '06). He's a man of many talents. For me the surprise is the other way around - that he ended up working with Adele.
Oh I seeee.Right , yeah I get what you’re saying. My memory a bit vague on Paul Epworth and could only recall he was associated with producing Adele albums.I guess it is indeed odd to think he went from producing the likes of Bloc Party to an uber mainstream artist. A man of many talents then, yes.
Regarding the Glimmers remixes on the 12” , I like the shuffly crisp drumming . There’s also the Glimmers Dub on one of the 12”x 12” releases. Not to be confused with Glimmers Dub Version on the Krafty 12”. Glimmers Dub Version and Glimmers Dub are 2 different remixes. Glimmers Dub has a straightforward and urgent beat whereas Glimmers Dub Version on the Krafty 12” is more shuffly.
Also always liked Morel’s Pink Noise Vocal remix.
Mr. Disco wrote: There are 11 official versions released so far. Maybe an US Maxi-CD, if such a thing still exists...
Some trainspotter notes. Versions official and otherwise:
Be A Rebel 4:48 12"; CD-R promo; Digital download
Be A Rebel (Edit) 3:35 CD-R promo; Digital download
Be A Rebel (Maceo Plex Remix) 6:56 Digital download
Be A Rebel (Maceo Plex Remix Edit) 5:27 YouTube only
Be A Rebel (Paul Woolford Remix) TBC Unconfirmed; Possibly aired on Pete Tong radio show 18-12-20
Be A Rebel (Paul Woolford Remix Edit) 4:07 Digital download
Be A Rebel (Bernard's Outlaw Mix) 6:41 Digital download
Be A Rebel (Renegade Spezial Edit) 3:09 Digital download
Be A Rebel (Renegade Spezial Edit) - Adidas promo version TBC Unconfirmed; Edited version for Adidas advertisement
Be A Rebel (Bernard’s Renegade Mix) 6:25 Digital download
Be A Rebel (Bernard’s Renegade Mix) - 12" variation TBC 12"
Be A Rebel (Bernard’s Renegade Instrumental Mix) 6:18 Digital download
Be A Rebel (Bernard’s Renegade Instrumental Mix) - 12" variation TBC 12"
Be A Rebel (Stephen’s T34 Mix) 5:25 12"; Digital download
Be A Rebel (Mark Reeder's Dirty Devil Remix) 5:26 Digital download
Be A Rebel (Mark Reeder's Cheeky Devil Remix) 4:44 Digital download - Mark Reeder album exclusive
Shall we embed it?
Has Baker gone for a 1963 '95 approach? It sounds very "clear" for want of a better word. You can really hear the backing vox, though I'm not sure that's particularly a bonus.
As time has gone by, I have forgiven the "BM/Kraftwerk" parts of the Maceo Plex mix. And I have appreciated the sort of synth-horn elements and the overall bite/toughness that Maceo's mix added to the track. Paul Woolford's effort was decent too (full length mix surely still to come ...Oh a 6 min NO edit), especially once the synth bass gets going.
But with the other mixes I have the same issue that I had with the original track; it's a bit too polite, too "Radio 2" for me. I want the remixes to add a harder edge, and I don't think this one does (but it might work at the Benidorm outdoor discos this summer) So it remains Maceo + Woolford for me.
Filled in the gaps for you
depthcharge wrote:
Mr. Disco wrote: There are 11 official versions released so far. Maybe an US Maxi-CD, if such a thing still exists...
Some Trainspotter notes. Versions official and otherwise:
Be A Rebel (Renegade Spezial Edit) - Adidas promo version 1:35 Youtube; Edited version for Adidas advertisement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S3-aFCf1H0
Be A Rebel (Bernard’s Renegade Mix) - 12" variation 6:31 12"
Be A Rebel (Bernard’s Renegade Instrumental Mix) - 12" variation 6:31 12"
Oh and also if we're counting unique edits then you could argue the Official Video edit is a slightly different edit to the Single Edit as it has diegetic storm noises over a muffled intro
27/8/21
Be a Rebel Paul Woolford Remix New Order Edit
2 Be a Rebel JakoJako Remix
3 Be a Rebel Maceo Plex Remix
4 Be a Rebel Melawati Remix
5 Be a Rebel Bernard's Outlaw Mix
6 Be a Rebel Renegade Spezial Edit
7 Be a Rebel Arthur Baker Remix
8 Be a Rebel Mark Reeder's Dirty Devil Remix
https://www.qobuz.com/fr-fr/album/be-a-rebel-remixed-new-order/rilpfjhvmk6lc
Didn't know New Order was on BandCamp.... probably new.
https://neworder.bandcamp.com/releases
CD
2x12"
Never heard of JakoJako or Melawati. Neither are on twitter, but both are on Instagram and Soundcloud, it appears.
Bleep has the 2x12" clear vinyl and the CD single listed for £16.49 and £10.49 respectively. The cheapest prices I can find at the moment for UK/EU.
I think you could have bought Music Complete for the same kinda prices...
EDIT: oh wait, the Mute site is doing the CD for £10.00 exactly. Here's a LINKTREE type thingy for lots of options.
Wow, not released physically until 27 August - almost a four month wait!
Anyone know which version of Bernard's Renegade Mix + Renegade Instrumental appears on the black 12" vinyl released on 27 November last year?
I have the dove grey one, which has his first versions (missing the "Hooky" guitar solos in each), but given the black vinyl was released a couple of weeks after this, I wonder if Bernard's updated version of both mixes made it onto this vinyl? If not, then the updated versions of both those mixes will remain as digital/CD only, with no vinyl release. Albeit his "final" 'Outlaw' mix makes it onto the new clear double vinyl 12" release - which is a third interpretation of essentially the same mix.
T-shirt Bundle now as well on Mute - 619!!!
I’ll go for the x2 clear vinyl and the CD. Not fussed about the tee. August though eh? That’s a few weeks short of a year since the single was first released ( to streaming) . Talk about stringing 1 (one) song out.
The Hierophant wrote: Too many mixes. It’s like the worst days of Republic.
There's a Sly & Robbie mix?
I was reading the following Twitter thread this morning, which had input from some labels, talking about a current lead time of around 4-8 months on vinyl production here in the UK at the moment, which might explain the August release date:
https://twitter.com/dada_drummer/status/1389383977111281670?s=19
Doesn't bode well for the 'Low-life' boxed set coming out in 2021, even if the current and former band members can all agree the content speedily.
Yeah, I couldn't be arsed this time around. One year and yet another live DVD on is extracting the urine. And after the 1993 - 1995 experience... Mind you, I'll probably check out Arthur Baker. His 1963 is actually more NOesque than the original. Am I too negative? Not now https://www.comedy.co.uk/film/news/6346/spice-world-sequel/
Cheers for the heads up on this everyone.
I've ordered the CD single.
Nice that pretty much every mix is on it. Was thinking that a few would get missed off.
Well there’s a second remix by Mark Reeder - The Cheeky Devil mix that doesn’t appear to have made it to the CD or vinyl unless I’ve missed it. The Dirty Devil mix has made it but not the Cheeky Devil mix.So technically not all the official mixes. Unless the Cheeky Devil mix is not classed as official?
I guess if there's no 'Low-life' set this year, this 2 x 12" + CD single release can count as 'Be A Rebel (Definitive Edition)'...
Fotz wrote: Well there’s a second remix by Mark Reeder - The Cheeky Devil mix that doesn’t appear to have made it to the CD or vinyl unless I’ve missed it. The Dirty Devil mix has made it but not the Cheeky Devil mix.So technically not all the official mixes. Unless the Cheeky Devil mix is not classed as official?
All the remixers will have variations and other attempts that won't be released, Mark is putting it out himself I think. There will also be instrumentals of all of them, which may find their way out digitally.
The other Reeder's mix is available (flac/mp3 only) on Bandcamp (full new Reeder's album).
