What is the rarest New Order related item you own? — Forum Archive

11 Nov 2002, 00:29

Originally posted by Old Blue Fac 303 - Palatine Lane (French sampler CD), featuring The Happy One.

Did I ever thank you for that? :wink:

I'm not even sure it was you, I get so many mails I'm lost sometimes.

11 Nov 2002, 03:36

Lancaster University 14/3/85 bootleg - there's a hoax version of this flying around that is merely a compilation of other tapes, but so far I've only ever seen one other person with a genuine copy.

11 Nov 2002, 04:41

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by Old Blue Fac 303 - Palatine Lane (French sampler CD), featuring The Happy One.

Did I ever thank you for that? :wink:

I'm not even sure it was you, I get so many mails I'm lost sometimes.

No you didn't thank me.....but you're forgiven ;)

11 Nov 2002, 04:51

Originally posted by Low-Life > Originally posted by Low-Life> I own quite a bit of stuff that I think may possibly be rare, so let me know what is worth holding onto...> > Joy Division:> "Still" - Japan 2CD> "Peel Sessions" - 1990 Red Edition CD> "Lost Treasures" - Demo Bootleg CD> "Warsaw" - Demo Bootleg (Baby Cover) CD> "Here Are The Young Men" - Original US VHS> "Fact 207" - Bootleg US VHS (Pink Case)> > New Order:> "1981-FEP 313-1982" - EP CD> "Everything's Gone Green" - CDS> "Brotherhood" - Factory Original CD> "Substance" - Factory Original Cassette> "Peel Sessions" - 1990 Edition CD> "Out Of Order" - Various Mixes Bootleg CD> "In Order" - Remix Promo CD> "New Order Story" - Original US VHS> > Revenge: (I know these are out of print)> "Revenge" - EP CD (7 Reasons/Jesus Single)> "One True Passion" - CD> "Gun World Porn" - EP CD (4 Tracks + 3 Remixes)

Duh... also add the "Video 586" CD.

Question: What is on the "Lost Treasures"-CD ??? Never heard or read about it ??? cheers.

11 Nov 2002, 06:05

Marco i too have most of them...but not the RED PEEL sessions.But ALL are worth keeping and never sell.It is not what the monetary value is.It is just the music but it is nice to own a RARE item althogh everything is RARE if you ain't got it.This week a girlfriend and job are rare at the PLANET ROCKET. :lol: :D

11 Nov 2002, 06:42

Eee I did the deed, the PCL rtd11 auction was mine. Nobody bothered to bid... 231.00euros hope its worth it. :nervous:

whos Mr Chester is he a NOOLER

11 Nov 2002, 06:47

Originally posted by -- ..- .-. ...-
Eee I did the deed, the PCL rtd11 auction was mine. Nobody bothered to bid... 231.00euros hope its worth it. whos Mr Chester is he a NOOLER

Don't know...how much in ENGLISH £s is that now? A genuine FAKE is better than a kick in the goolies :D

11 Nov 2002, 06:58

Originally posted by MR CHESTER PCL 2002 > Originally posted by -- ..- .-. ...- > Eee I did the deed, the PCL rtd11 auction was mine. Nobody bothered to bid... 231.00euros hope its worth it. > > whos Mr Chester is he a NOOLER

Don't know...how much in ENGLISH £s is that now? A genuine FAKE is better than a kick in the goolies :D

Who dares wins, maybe its a game of bluff, the last one on ebay went for $305.00 :lol:

11 Nov 2002, 07:22

Originally posted by -- ..- .-. ...-
> Originally posted by MR CHESTER PCL 2002> > > > Originally posted by -- ..- .-. ...- > > Eee I did the deed, the PCL rtd11 auction was mine. Nobody bothered to bid... 231.00euros hope its worth it. > > > > whos Mr Chester is he a NOOLER>

Don't know...how much in ENGLISH £s is that now? A genuine FAKE is better than a kick in the goolies :D

Who dares wins, maybe its a game of bluff, the last one on ebay went for $305.00 :lol:

Hope I don`t end up with EGG on my face, Mr Chester :toothless:

11 Nov 2002, 07:32

Originally posted by MR CHESTER PCL 2002 Marco i too have most of them...but not the RED PEEL sessions.But ALL are worth keeping and never sell.It is not what the monetary value is.It is just the music but it is nice to own a RARE item althogh everything is RARE if you ain't got it.This week a girlfriend and job are rare at the PLANET ROCKET. :D

it appears that girlfriends are, indeed, out of style at the present time...

too bad I still have a job!!!

11 Nov 2002, 08:17

Originally posted by The Happy One > Originally posted by MR CHESTER PCL 2002> Marco i too have most of them...but not the RED PEEL sessions.But ALL are worth keeping and never sell.It is not what the monetary value is.It is just the music but it is nice to own a RARE item althogh everything is RARE if you ain't got it.This week a girlfriend and job are rare at the PLANET ROCKET. :D

it appears that girlfriends are, indeed, out of style at the present time...

too bad I still have a job!!! Bad luck ...about the JOB that is! :lol: :nonono:

11 Nov 2002, 08:58

I suppose that the Emulator III sampler that they used when recording "Technique" in Ibiza and that now sits in my bedroom facing the wall has to be pretty high up there when it comes to the rare memorabilia stakes? What do we reckon that ones worth?

C'mon...you know you'd all love it!

11 Nov 2002, 08:58

Originally posted by Marco Pleil Question: What is on the "Lost Treasures"-CD ??? Never heard or read about it ??? cheers.

Do you know "Digital Glass" bootleg? This one features the same tracklisting. 11 tracks from the "Warsaw" album, recorded at Arrow Studios in May 1978 (The Drawback, Leaders Of Men, Walked In Line, Failures, Novelty, No Love Lost, Transmission, Ice Age, Interzone, Warsaw and Shadowplay), 5 tracks from Pennine studios recorded in June 79 (These Days, Candidate, The Only Mistake, Chance and Atrocity Exhibition) and 4 tracks from Central Sound Studios recorded in July 79 (Transmission, Novelty, Dead Souls and Something Must Break).

11 Nov 2002, 09:15

Originally posted by FourFortyFive I suppose that the Emulator III sampler that they used when recording "Technique" in Ibiza and that now sits in my bedroom facing the wall has to be pretty high up there when it comes to the rare memorabilia stakes? What do we reckon that ones worth? C'mon...you know you'd all love it!

Hmmm...don't think you could put a price tag on such a unique piece...and yes, I'd love to have it sitting around my place...

remember me in your will??? :p

11 Nov 2002, 11:31

I own Hooky. Bought him a few years back for £17.29 and a can of stella.

11 Nov 2002, 12:49

Originally posted by Ricardo > Originally posted by Marco Pleil> Question: What is on the "Lost Treasures"-CD ??? Never heard or read about it ??? cheers.

Do you know "Digital Glass" bootleg? This one features the same tracklisting. 11 tracks from the "Warsaw" album, recorded at Arrow Studios in May 1978 (The Drawback, Leaders Of Men, Walked In Line, Failures, Novelty, No Love Lost, Transmission, Ice Age, Interzone, Warsaw and Shadowplay), 5 tracks from Pennine studios recorded in June 79 (These Days, Candidate, The Only Mistake, Chance and Atrocity Exhibition) and 4 tracks from Central Sound Studios recorded in July 79 (Transmission, Novelty, Dead Souls and Something Must Break).

Alright! I thought it was a "New Order Lost Treasures"-bootleg... :idea:

11 Nov 2002, 13:39

Originally posted by Ricardo > Originally posted by Marco Pleil> Question: What is on the "Lost Treasures"-CD ??? Never heard or read about it ??? cheers.

Do you know "Digital Glass" bootleg? This one features the same tracklisting. 11 tracks from the "Warsaw" album, recorded at Arrow Studios in May 1978 (The Drawback, Leaders Of Men, Walked In Line, Failures, Novelty, No Love Lost, Transmission, Ice Age, Interzone, Warsaw and Shadowplay), 5 tracks from Pennine studios recorded in June 79 (These Days, Candidate, The Only Mistake, Chance and Atrocity Exhibition) and 4 tracks from Central Sound Studios recorded in July 79 (Transmission, Novelty, Dead Souls and Something Must Break).

True that.

However, one thing that bugs me is that on the "Lost Treasures" CD it says "A collection of studio outtakes digitally remastered from orginal analog tapes". The first tracks were copied directly from the grey "Warsaw" CD with the baby on it, and the last were from "Digital Glass" and have like a second cut off from the beginning of each song.

11 Nov 2002, 19:23

I don't have much:

orig Factory CD of LowLife w/ cards, car carrying case, and vellum wrap (Jap. press) orig Factory cassette box of LowLife w/ stuff LowLife dj stamp w/ vellum wrap orig Factory Cd of Brotherhood US Brotherhood dj orig Factory cassette w/ box of Brotherhood TBTHOG CD5 Republic US CD w/ squishy cover and dj sticker still sealed salvation CD ost (if that counts) Substance orig Factory 2CD...the discs have turned a very pretty shade of goldish-bronze

that's all that I can think of :D:D:D:D anita, wishing she had the collection the hardcore fans have...

11 Nov 2002, 19:37

Forgot the singles.....

Confusion//Confusion fac93 dj? says for heavy rotation only Blue Monday//Beach factus 10 w/ die-cut cover Perfect Kiss//PK (ins) qwest 7" ps Way of Life//Way of Life Qwest dj 12" proa2644 True Faith//TF (edit) dj 12" qwest proa2784

Can someone please give me more info on the Confusion 7"?

:D:D:D:D:D anita

11 Nov 2002, 23:37

JD- Ideal begining EP JD- An ideal for living EP JD- the flexi JD- Transmission 7" JD- LWTUA 7" JD- Amsterdam bootleg The Warsaw album CD and LP NO- Ceremony 7" NO- 1981-1982 EP NO- Run2 12"

Don't know if they're rare. Got many other things like that

12 Nov 2002, 01:55

Originally posted by Low-Life > Originally posted by Low-Life> I own quite a bit of stuff that I think may possibly be rare, so let me know what is worth holding onto...> > Joy Division:> "Still" - Japan 2CD> "Peel Sessions" - 1990 Red Edition CD> "Lost Treasures" - Demo Bootleg CD> "Warsaw" - Demo Bootleg (Baby Cover) CD> "Here Are The Young Men" - Original US VHS> "Fact 207" - Bootleg US VHS (Pink Case)> > New Order:> "1981-FEP 313-1982" - EP CD> "Everything's Gone Green" - CDS> "Brotherhood" - Factory Original CD> "Substance" - Factory Original Cassette> "Peel Sessions" - 1990 Edition CD> "Out Of Order" - Various Mixes Bootleg CD> "In Order" - Remix Promo CD> "New Order Story" - Original US VHS> > Revenge: (I know these are out of print)> "Revenge" - EP CD (7 Reasons/Jesus Single)> "One True Passion" - CD> "Gun World Porn" - EP CD (4 Tracks + 3 Remixes)

Duh... also add the "Video 586" CD.

Double duh... and the "Salvation!" soundtrack on CD. However, my version doesn't have that extra remix of "TBTHOG".

12 Nov 2002, 02:20

Regret WEATHERALL mixes.. Confusion lime green and purple 7 inch promo True Faith promo CD Westwood One Radio Networks includes BLT Electronic Ecstasy SECCstasy LP (SECC) Sunderland 84 LP Radio Waves Coming...... ORiginal bootleg of PEEL Sessions All promos by ELECTRONIC (almost) Picture Cover 7 inch and 12 inch and CD interviews..... CAR CARRY CASE Movement CD All original 12 and 7 inch singles apart from about 6 of both JOY DIV and the ORDER. VIDA POBRE .....Argentina Low Life New Zealand Blue Monday Cassette Most Canadian Issues Most USA ISSUES and German promos..... Poland 7 inch of Thieves and Love Will Tear US Apart New Order in Order 12 inch DJ ROUND and ROUND Japan Perfect Kiss,STILL CD,TBTHOG SALVATION with the extra tracks...... The "limited run" CD REPUBLIC Spanish Technique Cassette Substance number 50 PROMO GATAEFOLD All MONACO/OTHER TWO and REVENGE plus some promos..... SUB SUB with BARNEY All videos released in UK Promos of several of the above Most mags ever released with the ORDER in...and all FANZINES called PARADISE..... Subculture Record Mirror Flexi x 3 FAC 53 x 8................(SUPERB) The ITALIAN CD+booklet,7 inch + booklet... From MANCHESTER WITH LOVE.......

Most of these are NOT rare but special to me... As is DUTCH PEEL SESSIONS

Can't type anymore here...:D But that 7 inch of FINE TIME in the RADIO PROMO pink cover is nice :lol: 9 BEST of REST of (WHY?) DRY 201 Box of MATCHES That Puzzle..... FRED FACT page ....FAC 228 thingy...memory fading, SHUGZV entire tape collection(not for resale!) Just remembered the amazing 12 inch PROMO of 1963 which goes well with the CD Box one. And of course EVERY CD single and album release in ALL formats except GET READY on LP and the ORIGINAL SUBSTANCE LP!

The great thing is about collecting is that everyone else's collection always seems better...and probably is.It is just that if you ain't got it you want if it is your niche. I never bothered with the LIVE cassettes cos i wanted lovely covers with them too.But for those with the LARGE collections i can see WHY you do it.Some terrific sounds.Whatever you have of the ORDER is good for the spirit.Just enjoy them all.I may open mine to the public but last time i did so rare stuff went AWOL.You listening HANK..SHUGZV and HOOKY'S BRIEFCASE?:D:D:D:D

12 Nov 2002, 02:28

Originally posted by anita Forgot the singles.....Confusion//Confusion fac93 dj? says for heavy rotation onlyBlue Monday//Beach factus 10 w/ die-cut coverPerfect Kiss//PK (ins) qwest 7" psWay of Life//Way of Life Qwest dj 12" proa2644True Faith//TF (edit) dj 12" qwest proa2784Can someone please give me more info on the Confusion 7"?:D:D:D:D:Danita

There are some nice items there Anita, what`s your address? I might have to bring the swag bag round :D

12 Nov 2002, 03:30

Never really been a collector (otherwise I wouldn't have sold my Ruined in a Day DigiPak featuring the Bogle Mixes to N21 years ago! :lol: :rolling: ), but I guess that, beside the various limited editions such as the 1963-95 boxcase, World ltd. edit and Spooky "z new order release", beside the Salvation soundtrack (I wouldn't consider this rare anyway), ....

... the rarest related new order item that came to my hand is the Dreams Are Over bootleg which is a 500 copies limited edition featuring the December 1983 Brixton Academy concert in which New Order created a medley of Blue Monday and Divine's Love Reaction.

That bootleg also features "Aleph", the instrumental rendition of what would later become Sooner Than You Think, and a great early version of Thieves Like Us.

Fascinating stuff, even with the crappy sound. Here's what the cover looks like:

[image]Discography/008 - Bootlegs/Live/New Order - Dreams Are Over/NewOrderDreamsAreOverBootleg.jpg[/image]

12 Nov 2002, 03:45

Oh, another cool item I have is a promo cassette tape of The Beat Club's Security, featuring Bernard Sumner.

In the same category, I have the 12" single of Technotronic's Rockin' Over The Beat with the "Bernard Sumner Rockin' Over Manchester Remixes".

[image]Discography/005 - Collaborations/TechnotronicRockinOverTheBeat12inchVynil.jpg[/image]

12 Nov 2002, 03:55

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here who owns the following item?

It's the NewOrderStory VIDEO DISC:

[image]Discography/003 - Videos/012 - NewOrderStory/NewOrderStoryVideoDisc.jpg[/image]

I've never seen it anywhere...

12 Nov 2002, 04:56

Originally posted by Warm Hands, Cold Heart Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here who owns the following item?It's the NewOrderStory VIDEO DISC:[image]Discography/003 - Videos/012 - NewOrderStory/NewOrderStoryVideoDisc.jpg[/image]I've never seen it anywhere...

No but thanks for the above 3 pictures cos i ain't seen any of them before in COLOUR.

12 Nov 2002, 09:43

Originally posted by Rocket Mick Regret WEATHERALL mixes..Confusion lime green and purple 7 inch promoTrue Faith promo CDWestwood One Radio Networks includes BLTElectronic EcstasySECCstasy LP (SECC)Sunderland 84 LPRadio Waves Coming...... ORiginal bootleg of PEEL SessionsAll promos by ELECTRONIC (almost)Picture Cover 7 inch and 12 inch and CD interviews.....CAR CARRY CASE Movement CDAll original 12 and 7 inch singles apart from about 6 of both JOY DIV and the ORDER.VIDA POBRE .....Argentina Low LifeNew Zealand Blue Monday CassetteMost Canadian IssuesMost USA ISSUESand German promos.....Poland 7 inch of Thieves and Love Will Tear US ApartNew Order in Order12 inch DJ ROUND and ROUNDJapan Perfect Kiss,STILL CD,TBTHOGSALVATION with the extra tracks......The "limited run" CD REPUBLICSpanish Technique CassetteSubstance number 50 PROMO GATAEFOLDAll MONACO/OTHER TWO and REVENGE plus some promos.....SUB SUB with BARNEYAll videos released in UK Promos of several of the aboveMost mags ever released with the ORDER in...and all FANZINES called PARADISE.....Subculture Record MirrorFlexi x 3FAC 53 x 8................(SUPERB)The ITALIAN CD+booklet,7 inch + booklet...From MANCHESTER WITH LOVE.......Most of these are NOT rare but special to me...As is DUTCH PEEL SESSIONSCan't type anymore here...:DBut that 7 inch of FINE TIME in the RADIO PROMO pink cover is nice9 BEST of REST of (WHY?)DRY 201 Box of MATCHESThat Puzzle.....FRED FACT page ....FAC 228 thingy...memory fading,SHUGZV entire tape collection(not for resale!)Just remembered the amazing 12 inch PROMO of 1963 which goes well with the CD Box one.And of course EVERY CD single and album release in ALL formats except GET READY on LP and the ORIGINAL SUBSTANCE LP!The great thing is about collecting is that everyone else's collection always seems better...and probably is.It is just that if you ain't got it you want if it is your niche.I never bothered with the LIVE cassettes cos i wanted lovely covers with them too.But for those with the LARGE collections i can see WHY you do it.Some terrific sounds.Whatever you have of the ORDER is good for the spirit.Just enjoy them all.I may open mine to the public but last time i did so rare stuff went AWOL.You listening HANK..SHUGZV and HOOKY'S BRIEFCASE?:D:D:D:D

I bow before you. I'm not worthy.

12 Nov 2002, 19:57

Originally posted by Warm Hands, Cold Heart In the same category, I have the 12" single of Technotronic's Rockin' Over The Beat with the "Bernard Sumner Rockin' Over Manchester Remixes".

Yeah..I've got the CD single version of this..with the Barney's remixed version..

12 Nov 2002, 22:46

That's quite a list going...Let's see (I'm at work right now so bear with me)

Some crusty flexi - Komakino me thinks Original hessian-bound gatefold of STILL Japanese LWTUA 12" US "Four Tracks" promo for GetReady-lists TMW as "Shipwreck" A New Order Sampler - Pre REPUBLIC promo "A New Order Promo" In Order promos - Both versions (CD and 12" with remixes) JD - Inside the Line LP bootleg (Retropop records - very good!!) True Faith CDV Aussie True Faith 12" w/Paradise remix All those damn 2001 True Faith remixes on CD and 12" US Way of Life promo 12" US Perfect Kiss promo with 12" Version, Video Edit and Full Video Version Regret Weatherall/Sabres mixes CD and 12" Z Spooky releases Run2 7" and 12" Dutch JD FRACTURED Box (Preston and Paris) TBTHOG CD5 (UK) and CD3 (Japanese)

and much more...but me at work and the chilly dogs are kicking in!!!!