Brand new blu-ray albums featuring Dolby Atmos mixes by Steven Wilson.
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If there is a stockpile/folder of all the FLACs of the instrumentals and isolated tracks, let us know!
Happy new year, everyone!
Given how expensive the Definitive Edition boxed sets have become, and that Stephen Morris and Steven Wilson have been making those new surround sound and instrumental versions of the old albums, I sincerely hope future boxed sets from 'Technique' and (hopefully) onwards will also include the surround sound Blu-ray discs, along with the usual CDs and DVDs. They can, and no doubt will be released separately of course, but it be great to have them all together in future boxes.
Mr Discography wrote: Given how expensive the Definitive Edition boxed sets have become, and that Stephen Morris and Steven Wilson have been making those new surround sound and instrumental versions of the old albums, I sincerely hope future boxed sets from 'Technique' and (hopefully) onwards will also include the surround sound Blu-ray discs, along with the usual CDs and DVDs. They can, and no doubt will be released separately of course, but it be great to have them all together in future boxes.
Agreed. I'm buying everything to make these projects financially viable for the label, but what we really need are definitive box sets that ditch the vinyl and hardcover books in favor of just music. A proper box set of Technique would include: -The album -A disc for "Fine Time" with all of its mixes/b-sides (the U.K. 12" with Barney moaning and talking has never been officially released on CD) -A disc for "Round & Round" with all of its mixes/b-sides -A disc for "Run2" with all of its mixes/b-sides plus the unreleased WB cassette versions that were posted online. -A disc for the soundtrack of "Making Out" season 1 as a roadmap for how many of the tracks began. -"Intermede Musical" parts 1- 6 from Palatine Lane and all of the completed studio mixes of "The Happy One" (these could pad out other discs). -two or three discs of demos including the eBay disc of early mixes and jams
For Republic the perfect outcome is:
-The album -A disc of initial versions -A disc of demos -A disc for "Making Out" season 2 (to map the time between albums) -A disc for "Making Out" season 3 (ditto) -A disc for "Regret" including the promo edit, instrumental version posted online, all remixes, and b-sides. The wonderful "Lucky Lou" remix seems to be unofficial but sure sounds like it was built from master tapes and deserves consideration! -A disc for "Ruined in a Day" including all remixes and b-sides -A disc for "World" including all released and unreleased remixes ("Tony Garcia Radio Edit," instrumental posted online, etc.) -A disc for "Spooky" including all released and unreleased remixes ("Night Tripper Dub," etc.)
If there's room, add the tracks from the promo interview disc! :D
Fractured wrote: Agreed. I'm buying everything to make these projects financially viable for the label, but what we really need are definitive box sets that ditch the vinyl and hardcover books in favor of just music. A proper box set of Technique would include: -The album -A disc for "Fine Time" with all of its mixes/b-sides (the U.K. 12" with Barney moaning and talking has never been officially released on CD) -A disc for "Round & Round" with all of its mixes/b-sides -A disc for "Run2" with all of its mixes/b-sides plus the unreleased WB cassette versions that were posted online. -A disc for the soundtrack of "Making Out" season 1 as a roadmap for how many of the tracks began. -"Intermede Musical" parts 1- 6 from Palatine Lane and all of the completed studio mixes of "The Happy One" (these could pad out other discs). -two or three discs of demos including the eBay disc of early mixes and jams
It's likely they would charge like £500 for something like that
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Fractured wrote: Agreed. I'm buying everything to make these projects financially viable for the label, but what we really need are definitive box sets that ditch the vinyl and hardcover books in favor of just music. A proper box set of Technique would include: -The album -A disc for "Fine Time" with all of its mixes/b-sides (the U.K. 12" with Barney moaning and talking has never been officially released on CD) -A disc for "Round & Round" with all of its mixes/b-sides -A disc for "Run2" with all of its mixes/b-sides plus the unreleased WB cassette versions that were posted online. -A disc for the soundtrack of "Making Out" season 1 as a roadmap for how many of the tracks began. -"Intermede Musical" parts 1- 6 from Palatine Lane and all of the completed studio mixes of "The Happy One" (these could pad out other discs). -two or three discs of demos including the eBay disc of early mixes and jams
It's likely they would charge like £500 for something like that
They wouldn't have to. I just got the FGTH box set today. That has 8 discs, one of them a Blu Ray. I got it for about $125 on Amazon.
A proper, complete archival release that empties the vaults and fulfills Rob's Recycle idea at the same time would be a worthwhile project, and I wouldn't WANT to pay more than $200 for it, but I would.
Fractured wrote:
Mr Discography wrote: Given how expensive the Definitive Edition boxed sets have become, and that Stephen Morris and Steven Wilson have been making those new surround sound and instrumental versions of the old albums, I sincerely hope future boxed sets from 'Technique' and (hopefully) onwards will also include the surround sound Blu-ray discs, along with the usual CDs and DVDs. They can, and no doubt will be released separately of course, but it be great to have them all together in future boxes.
Agreed. I'm buying everything to make these projects financially viable for the label, but what we really need are definitive box sets that ditch the vinyl and hardcover books in favor of just music. A proper box set of Technique would include: -The album -A disc for "Fine Time" with all of its mixes/b-sides (the U.K. 12" with Barney moaning and talking has never been officially released on CD) -A disc for "Round & Round" with all of its mixes/b-sides -A disc for "Run2" with all of its mixes/b-sides plus the unreleased WB cassette versions that were posted online. -A disc for the soundtrack of "Making Out" season 1 as a roadmap for how many of the tracks began. -"Intermede Musical" parts 1- 6 from Palatine Lane and all of the completed studio mixes of "The Happy One" (these could pad out other discs). -two or three discs of demos including the eBay disc of early mixes and jams
That sounds far too exhaustive for my tastes. I like the format of the boxes so far - plus I never owned their albums on vinyl, so I like having the reproduced LPs, along with the remastered CD, and a single disc of demos/outtakes/rarities, plus the DVD(s). Just hoping they also include the surround Blu-ray from now on.
I hope that they also continue to digitally release all the 12" inches (although that seems to have stalled for some unknown reason). Then focus on companion digital releases for each single mopping up vinyl-only edits, dubs and remixes. That way I can dip in and download the tracks I don't already have digitally without needed to buy them all again.
Fractured wrote: For Republic the perfect outcome is:
-The album -A disc of initial versions -A disc of demos -A disc for "Making Out" season 2 (to map the time between albums) -A disc for "Making Out" season 3 (ditto) -A disc for "Regret" including the promo edit, instrumental version posted online, all remixes, and b-sides. The wonderful "Lucky Lou" remix seems to be unofficial but sure sounds like it was built from master tapes and deserves consideration! -A disc for "Ruined in a Day" including all remixes and b-sides -A disc for "World" including all released and unreleased remixes ("Tony Garcia Radio Edit," instrumental posted online, etc.) -A disc for "Spooky" including all released and unreleased remixes ("Night Tripper Dub," etc.)
If there's room, add the tracks from the promo interview disc! :D
Where to begin.
The Making Out stuff is O2 material, so why would it be on a New Order box-set? It's like including demos of Electronic's Disappointed. Several of the Making Out ideas ended up in finalised form on Super Highways, anyway.
Also, Regret didn't have a b-side?!
It sounds like you have most of these, so just enjoy them in the format you have them in? Much of the unreleased stuff stayed that way for a reason, nobody really *needs* the Promo Edit of Regret.
I tend to agree with Mr Discography, the format of the box-sets so far has been really good. Hardback books included. What's being suggested above would ruin an elegant format. It's overkill, and then some.
Won't happen anyway, thankfully.
The only track I would like to hear in surround sound is "Everything's Gone Green". Ideally just a crisp, full stereo mix of the track with Bernard's whoop (around 3m47s) coming out of one of the rear speakers at distressing volume.
Technically the N.O. mix of "Regret" was the b-side, but I see your point. Much of the "Making Out" content was credited to New Order (See https://youtu.be/M-2vAyvMSvA?si=NDj74LAXdRayXzB4&t=2785 ) ... I think Season 3 was where it went to just a Steve and Gillian credit? I still consider that material to be an important glimpse into the band's creative process during a pivotal moment of artistic growth.
I recently picked up a very inexpensive 40-CD Duke Ellington box set, and not being too familiar with the history of jazz, dove into it as a sort of history lesson. It's been an interesting experience. I'd love for the band's complete studio recordings (including promo-only and commercially released tracks, demos, and outtakes) to be available with the same thoroughness so all of us can hear them. Maybe it's a minority opinion, and such a project would only be financially feasible as a digital or made-to-order CD-R release, but for at least some fans, it'd be heaven!
Are these "Instrumental Mixes" a new revelation of God? Basslines begin to sing lightly, wonderful synth parts and percussions etc that were previously hidden by the vocal range. (sorry Barney!) Especially Movement. It's a perspective-altering experience like Cargo Demos.
Ultravox has locked into a great pattern of releasing 2-CD sets of new Wilson mixes plus a disc of instrumental versions for RSD. New Order should do the same! Make the instrumentals more easily enjoyed by all.