Retro Bonus CD - yippee... — Forum Archive

20 Nov 2002, 09:56

I told you that there would be something of a result if you showed a little patience.

As Al J. & Candy the Bear will testify, I knew about this but couldn't really say anything - I all but told the forum over the last couple of days anyway.

Other than "Such a Good Thing" - which Barney insisted on including on this, I thought it wasn't that bad a collection at all.

By way of an explanation;

Andy Robinson called me here at work a couple of weeks ago asking what I thought might put a smile on some of your moaning faces. I passd on many of your comments and hey presto - your "rarities" disc appears courtesy of HMV.

I'm not a total cunt all the time y'know?

20 Nov 2002, 09:59

So if I order from MHV I shall get the Bonus disc? Sorry to bother you but where I live it's not easy to walk into the HMV?

20 Nov 2002, 10:33

... it isn't where I live either ... the parking facilities are terrible.

:hat:

20 Nov 2002, 10:39

Originally posted by FourFortyFive I told you that there would be something of a result if you showed a little patience.As Al J. & Candy the Bear will testify, I knew about this but couldn't really say anything - I all but told the forum over the last couple of days anyway.Other than "Such a Good Thing" - which Barney insisted on including on this, I thought it wasn't that bad a collection at all.By way of an explanation;Andy Robinson called me here at work a couple of weeks ago asking what I thought might put a smile on some of your moaning faces. I passd on many of your comments and hey presto - your "rarities" disc appears courtesy of HMV.I'm not a total cunt all the time y'know?

Nice work JS :)

20 Nov 2002, 11:08

Originally posted by mmh I just tried talking to someone at HMV regarding this limited lovely, but they weren't able to shed any light on this.Anyone have a definitive on pre-ordering the ltd package?

not here, hmv and virgin know nothing about it, amazon sent me an incomprehensible reply that seemed to suggest they didn't understand the question.

20 Nov 2002, 11:41

Considering that many of the disgruntled fans are abroad, I'll see what I can do about getting a number of these additional discs just for the forum members - being that it's nearly Christmas and all that...Bah Humbug!

20 Nov 2002, 11:43

www.amazon.com has retro for a December 17th release, While www.amazon.co.uk has retro for a December 9th release. How can a person in the states secure the bonus CD?

20 Nov 2002, 11:47

Maybe this "limited" edition is on the same vein as some other "limited" releases... take the "LOTR:TFOTR special edition- Collector's edition" (the longest DVD title in history?): I've seen LOADS of them on my local FNAC (I won't buy the fucker, of course! Who needs an Argonath bookend? Please!) so what's "limited" about it?

20 Nov 2002, 11:48

I never thought I'd say this, but thank you Jonathan :lol:

What everyone wishes to know is, this disc is separated from the boxset completely? so this mean, if you have some copies for us, I can buy the Canadian edition ;)

I like HMV, but ordering it from the UK only for the bonus disc is a pain.. unless HMV Canada can import it for me...

And what everyone wants to know is, it's HMV only? so any pre-order from HMV should get one?

I guess you don't know that one!

20 Nov 2002, 11:48

Originally posted by FourFortyFive Considering that many of the disgruntled fans are abroad, I'll see what I can do about getting a number of these additional discs just for the forum members - being that it's nearly Christmas and all that...Bah Humbug!

This tends to suggest that behind the stony silent exterior the band has a modicum of interest in the NooL'ers views on such matters?

Can you confirm this JS ??

20 Nov 2002, 11:52

Originally posted by FourFortyFive Considering that many of the disgruntled fans are abroad, I'll see what I can do about getting a number of these additional discs just for the forum members - being that it's nearly Christmas and all that...Bah Humbug!

That would be so wonderful!!!!

20 Nov 2002, 11:52

Originally posted by FourFortyFive I By way of an explanation;Andy Robinson called me here at work a couple of weeks ago asking what I thought might put a smile on some of your moaning faces. I passd on many of your comments and hey presto - your "rarities" disc appears courtesy of HMV.I'm not a total cunt all the time y'know?

This doesn't surprise me, when I saw the tracklisting, I knew someone was reading this forum somewhere ;)

20 Nov 2002, 12:01

Any help in getting the bonus disc for those of us outside the UK would be very much appreciated.

Cheers.

20 Nov 2002, 12:08

Originally posted by Tracey Spivey Any help in getting the bonus disc for those of us outside the UK would be very much appreciated.Cheers.

I have only recently bothered to order cds from online, cuz I can find most rare cds in the live music capitol of the world.....but I would order this collection with the ltd edition cd if i can, no matter how much the shipping is. My question is: WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR US AMERICANOS GETTING THIS LTD EDITION CD COLLECTION? Thanks.

20 Nov 2002, 12:08

I'll tell you exacty what happened so you know what I know.

Miles (DVD director) called a couple of weeks ago and asked if he could give Andy Robinson my office number. He said Andy wanted to talk to me about something. Obviously I said yes and about 15 minutes later, Andy called and started talking about this extra disc. He talked for about 90 minutes about all manner of stuff and asked what I thought would make up for the shortcomings on the "Retro" release. Shortcomings as far as you lot were concerned that is. I mentioned various tracks and he agreed with some but not with all - no demos - remember now? I did ask...I should also point out that it wasn't only reaction on this forum that prompted Andy to get in touch.

As far as I know, it's only HMV in the UK. Not sure how that effects foreign orders. I can only ask for extra copies for the fans here - I cannot promise anything. I am hopeful however...

Anyway, there you have it - there is a bit more I can't say yet but that I hope comes to fruition.

Yours,

Jonathan S.

20 Nov 2002, 12:41

Originally posted by FourFortyFive I'll tell you exacty what happened so you know what I know.Miles (DVD director) called a couple of weeks ago and asked if he could give Andy Robinson my office number. He said Andy wanted to talk to me about something. Obviously I said yes and about 15 minutes later, Andy called and started talking about this extra disc. He talked for about 90 minutes about all manner of stuff and asked what I thought would make up for the shortcomings on the "Retro" release. Shortcomings as far as you lot were concerned that is. I mentioned various tracks and he agreed with some but not with all - no demos - remember now? I did ask...I should also point out that it wasn't only reaction on this forum that prompted Andy to get in touch.As far as I know, it's only HMV in the UK. Not sure how that effects foreign orders. I can only ask for extra copies for the fans here - I cannot promise anything. I am hopeful however...Anyway, there you have it - there is a bit more I can't say yet but that I hope comes to fruition.Yours,Jonathan S.

You did a great job Mr JS! I just hope this bonus CD will cross the Channel to land in Belgium ;).

20 Nov 2002, 12:41

Yeah I know it's not only this forum Jonathan, but it was the first thing I said when I saw the tracklisting :)

Any help would indeed be good, because 3000 copies is a very limited amount for New Order fans..

And of course, you know about what malicious people will try to do on EBay...! I can see EIL.com from a thousand miles coming up with this on their site for a very high price!

20 Nov 2002, 12:53

That wasn't directed at you Nic - any conversation I had with the bands manager related ONLY to views expressed on this forum.

I asked for the original accoustic demo of "60 MPH" & the rehearsal session for "Hurt" but was told that it just wouldn't happen but I agreed that you'd all like the rambling version of "Elegia" etc.

20 Nov 2002, 12:58

Of course, we are offering NewOrderOnline's structure to put up a competition or a draw or a giveaway for this bonus disc if you, Jonathan, can manage to get some for the members of this site, and especially those who are regulars here!

That would be a nice gift for everyone indeed! :)

20 Nov 2002, 13:00

Originally posted by FourFortyFive That wasn't directed at you Nic - any conversation I had with the bands manager related ONLY to views expressed on this forum.I asked for the original accoustic demo of "60 MPH" & the rehearsal session for "Hurt" but was told that it just wouldn't happen but I agreed that you'd all like the rambling version of "Elegia" etc.

First of all, thank you for making this happen and second, what is the acoustic demo of 60MPH? Is that the Dave Kahne mix or the version on the premix promo?

20 Nov 2002, 13:04

Well, as long as us die-hard fans can all get our hands on a copy, this is a bit of a result. Well done. To keep all of us completeists happy, it would have needed about another four or five limited edition discs, but the stuff that's on there is certainly sought after, that's for sure.

Any news on if we'll get copies with the free disc if we've already pre-ordered from HMV?

Andy.

20 Nov 2002, 13:06

I cannot claim anything other than a little involvement in this - but I was asked and that's really nice I have to say...

As for the "60 MPH" demo question;

Neither - it was the first demo recorded at David Potts house and indeed Pottsy plays keyboards on the track. There is even a "1,2,1,2,3,4" count at the start.

20 Nov 2002, 13:14

I've got it on CD already anyway, but can I ask why it's an "excerpt" from 'Let's Go' on this bonus disc?

Andy.

20 Nov 2002, 13:28

FOUR FORTY FIVE....cheers and well done for ANY involvement.I hope to get a copy but even if i am not lucky enough to get a copy 3000 will!So nice one and this is a great PRESENT to NOOL's for XMAS. Good un Rocket Mick

20 Nov 2002, 13:30

Yes, indeed, SAGT is probably even worse than WAS.

20 Nov 2002, 13:45

Indeed, excellent work there young Johnathan. E-mailed HMV.co.uk before about getting hold of the bonus disc, no reply yet though. Somehow I have a slight fear that they'll say "sod off, you're already getting a 4-disc box set for £16.99, you'll get the bonus disc if you order it for £35.99". Then I may start crying, what with me being a poor first-year student and all. Then, when I pull myself together, I might start going a bit mental :violent2:

20 Nov 2002, 13:51

but surely, if it's HMV's first 3000 sets...and since we were the first to order...am I being overly optimistic???

hopefully not...I did book me summer trip to London before the official announcement of Finsbury...could I get lucky twice in one year?

I have been a good boy...soooooooooooo!!!!

20 Nov 2002, 13:52

Well, I'm happy since if I get that bonus CD, I won't have to buy WIM2002 to get all New Order tracks.. ;)

But well, uh, I don't have them anyway..

There is still many things missing.. other True Faith 2002 remixes, that Area:One LA show, which had a promo, the original mix of Crystal (remember that mp3 everyone got waaaaaaaay before the release?) many other pre-promo (first mixes) of Get Ready...

We can find a lot of these.. but there isn't any that beats Elegia.. now I just hope they will do a mastering of any kind on that one ;)

20 Nov 2002, 14:01

Originally posted by Spotnick Well, I'm happy since if I get that bonus CD, I won't have to buy WIM2002 to get all New Order tracks.. ;)But well, uh, I don't have them anyway..There is still many things missing.. the original mix of Crystal

That was just a faded in-and-out excerpt from the original 7:08 version which you can get hold of on the 'Here To Stay' UK 12". I think it's on there by mistake, as the running time on the sleeve is the album version, but it definitely is longer - the one on the 'Get Ready' rough mixes bootleg.

Andy.

20 Nov 2002, 14:34

firstly congrats in assisting in this little bonus disc mr scott...

daft question but do you have any idea how these 3000 discs will be distributed amongst the shops or will they all go to pre-ordered packages??? basically what i am asking is if i go to hmv in derby on day of release...will i get blank expressions from some spotty shop assistant when i mention the bonus disc???